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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:52 am
What is witchcraft to you? (Put down the dictionary and speak for yourself personally wink ) What does it entail? Are there spiritual elements that are essential? Are there practices you consider essential?
Tell us about witchcraft in general, and then your witchcraft specifically.
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 11:38 pm
(Baha, here's where we see if I have retained anything I have learned about myself and the world through this guild. I hope I was paying attention, and didn't waste all your time xp )
Witchcraft in general: This conjures many images. There's the flully images of fat bald men in velvet capes with giant pentacles around fires in the middle of the woods. Then there is the image of legit witchcraft, which is far deeper. You're working with what you've got. Natural objects and power, your own power, stuff that has been there at your finger tips, that you just didn't know you had use for.
For me: Basically like the latter half of the above. Working with what I have an all that. It's like there's all these things that are right there, right in front of me that are of some use, or signifigance, including myself. Discovering things. There's an importance on nature, especially. I feel like there's also a humbleness to it, too. At least for me. As in being humble in a sense to accept all that there is for me to learn.
Everything I want to say about witchcraft is probably going to be extremely influences soley by what it is to me. It's not because I don't care what it is to anyone else, but more because I haven't even fully explored what it is to me. Gah, I thought I had a whole elaborate idea to put here, and then I realized I've barely scratched the surface. Hell, I've barely removed the wrapping paper. The most I've ever done thus far is cooked a meal for my family and friends each general/important holiday/date.
Ah, sometimes this place makes me feel like I haven't a single clue in this sense; "Oh look, the puzzle is almost....MOTHER FXCK THERE'S A GIANT HOLE! Damn. It."
xd
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 2:46 am
Corabella (Baha, here's where we see if I have retained anything I have learned about myself and the world through this guild. I hope I was paying attention, and didn't waste all your time xp ) Well I was really asking to get people's individual ideas. Unless you said "witchcraft is the practice of Wicca" or something it would have been fine xd Quote: Then there is the image of legit witchcraft, which is far deeper. You're working with what you've got. Natural objects and power, your own power, stuff that has been there at your finger tips, that you just didn't know you had use for. This is quite near to what I feel general witchcraft is. It's sort of hard to put into words. Quote: There's an importance on nature, especially. I think a lot of witches feel this way (myself included) and I wonder where it came from... whether it was linked to making offerings to land-spirits, vaettir, or gods or fae... or whether it had more to do with needing to pay attention to weather patterns and our ancestors being in more immediate contact with the rhythms of the world (given harvests etc). Quote: I feel like there's also a humbleness to it, too. At least for me. As in being humble in a sense to accept all that there is for me to learn. The more experienced the witch, the more humble they seem to be, I think. It's like physics or neuroscience or something. You start out knowing you know nothing. You take a few classes and you think you've got this s**t down. After twenty years studying it, though, you're amazed at how much you really don't know. Quote: Everything I want to say about witchcraft is probably going to be extremely influences soley by what it is to me. It's not because I don't care what it is to anyone else, but more because I haven't even fully explored what it is to me. Gah, I thought I had a whole elaborate idea to put here, and then I realized I've barely scratched the surface. Hell, I've barely removed the wrapping paper. I have trouble defining witchcraft in a general sense because my own witchcraft is something quite specific. Things that are very important to my practice may be irrelevant to someone else... that makes it tricky, for me personally. Quote: The most I've ever done thus far is cooked a meal for my family and friends each general/important holiday/date. Do you feel that these dates are (or should be) important to most witches, or are they more important to your own practice?
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 7:05 am
For me, it's sort of hard to define exactly what a Witch is, because I think there are a lot of things that fall into the category of witchcraft, and one doesn't have to do them all to be considered a witch. Not only that but many of the practices aren't necessarily witchcraft in and of themselves, but when grouped with the other things would be seen as such.
To me a witch is someone who in one way or another practices some sort of magic, meaning that they (through spells, prayer, incantations, etc...) try to influence outside events (either for themselves or others). They make charms, talisman, amulets, potions, do divination (of some sort), they may or may not have a spiritual side to their practices (either by having a deep connection to the elements, spirits, or deities...or a combination of them).
Personally, I think having a spiritual component is essential - I think there needs to be some feeling of connectedness to the energies that make up the universe, in order to work magic effectively (though "force of will" also plays a very large part as well).
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 2:03 pm
Like what others are experiencing here, I have a hard time putting my thoughts of what Witchcraft is to me into words. A Witch to me is a seeker of knowledge, balance, roots, and a healer and protector of these things. They are advisors of daily living and spiritual sense if they so choose. They do these through the practice of the Craft, which may include the workings of magick in whatever form they feel most comfortable with. Witchcraft to me holds a connection with nature, it's Creators and creatures, both on this earth or on celestial or astral plane.
....I'm done with my rambling now. -hides-
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 3:04 pm
Quote: It's sort of hard to put into words. Exactly! It's there, you know it, you can see it in your mind, and it seems simple enough, then when you go to say something, it suddenly becomes rather ellusive. Quote: I think a lot of witches feel this way (myself included) and I wonder where it came from... I like your ideas on this, and I wonder if it also has to do with their working closer to nature with medicinal herbs, plants, etc. They would had to have been well versed in what plant did what, which ones were dangerous, and plants that may have resembled the medicinal one but had no worth medicinally, or was extremely dangerous. Quote: Do you feel that these dates are (or should be) important to most witches, or are they more important to your own practice? I guess the answer to this sort of correlates to how you feel about the trickiness of explaining witchcraft in general. The dates probably are imortant to most witches, but I don't see why they should have to be important to every witch's path. The dates are just what I consider the basics (correct me if I am wrong on any because I find there are a million names for each); Yule, Imbolc, Ostara, Beltane, Litha, Lammas, Mabon, and Samhain. Pretty general, I think. I see signifigance in them because by observing these dates, even by simply preparing and sharing a meal with those close to me, I've found I'm much more aware of the changing of seasons. And though I figure since they are so generalized, most witches probably have at one time or still do celebrate them, there are some whe probably don't. But I don't think that they should be important if the individual witch doesn't see them as important. My philisophy is; if it doesn't feel like you should be doing something, then don't. There's nothing worse for me than feeling completely wrong about something.
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Violet Song jat Shariff Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:29 pm
Sanguina Cruenta What is witchcraft to you? (Put down the dictionary and speak for yourself personally wink ) What does it entail? Are there spiritual elements that are essential? Are there practices you consider essential? Tell us about witchcraft in general, and then your witchcraft specifically. To me, witchcraft is working one's will to help shape/change/modify things. I feel like it's sort of a bare-bones definition...but afaik, it seems to be one thing that most of the different forms of magic have in common wink Witchcraft entails so many things - it's hard for me to put into one post what I think it entails; healing, hexing, divination, blessing...those are some of the things that come to mind immediately but there are more, I know. I don't think spirituality is necessary to practicing witchcraft or being a witch. I'm not all too sure about essential practices either. I know there are all sorts of things that witchcraft entails, but I'm not entirely sure (and I don't think I can speak with any sort of authority since I don't consider myself a witch) if there are any practices that would be essential.
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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 3:32 pm
Violet Song jat Shariff I feel like it's sort of a bare-bones definition...but afaik, it seems to be one thing that most of the different forms of magic have in common wink In that case, what distinguishes witchcraft from other forms of magic?
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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 4:43 pm
For me... it took me four years of practising witchcraft before I felt like I was a witch. It feels like something you become, to me, not something you are by virtue of casting spells for a year. It's not just something you are by doing, but something you are by what you learn and experience. But it's also something no one can tell you that you are. (Well, I guess unless you're a Wiccan and you're told you're one when you're initiated. But it's still something you have to have to feel in yourself.)
So, to me... a witch has her feet on the ground. In more ways than one. On the one hand there's a degree of practicality, a grounded outlook. On the other, I do think there's an element of the natural world there, the earth beneath your feet. I don't think you can divorce witchcraft from the energies of the natural world or from that practicality - and I think those things are linked too. Knowledge of what you have and using what you have around you.
I also agree that an element of spirituality is important. I'm not sure I want to go so far as to say that witchcraft is a spiritual path in and of itself, because I'm not sure how much the practice changes your spiritual outlook. How common is animism? Belief in land spirits? Or spirits of the dead? I'm not sure. How common is working with elements or things of that ilk? But I do feel like you can't practice witchcraft without a feeling for the energies around you, and a sense of who you are spiritually.
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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 6:40 pm
Sanguina Cruenta Violet Song jat Shariff I feel like it's sort of a bare-bones definition...but afaik, it seems to be one thing that most of the different forms of magic have in common wink In that case, what distinguishes witchcraft from other forms of magic? Which other forms of magic? wink . I tend to foil witchcraft against more ceremonial forms of magic, so I see witchcraft as more down-to-earth and...personal (I think that's the word I want). Of course I may be wrong in holding witchcraft and Ceremonial sorts of magic as opposites.
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Violet Song jat Shariff Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 7:02 pm
Violet Song jat Shariff Sanguina Cruenta Violet Song jat Shariff I feel like it's sort of a bare-bones definition...but afaik, it seems to be one thing that most of the different forms of magic have in common wink In that case, what distinguishes witchcraft from other forms of magic? Which other forms of magic? wink . I tend to foil witchcraft against more ceremonial forms of magic, so I see witchcraft as more down-to-earth and...personal (I think that's the word I want). Of course I may be wrong in holding witchcraft and Ceremonial sorts of magic as opposites. I was thinking largely Ceremonial stuff. But also, in defining witchcraft we're saying, like, "this counts" and "this doesn't". Does hoodoo count? At what point does a magic ritual become "ceremonial" rather than "witchcraft", and how much overlap is there? Is it witchcraft because a witch is doing it? All these things I find difficult to answer whee
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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:40 pm
Sanguina Cruenta Violet Song jat Shariff Sanguina Cruenta Violet Song jat Shariff I feel like it's sort of a bare-bones definition...but afaik, it seems to be one thing that most of the different forms of magic have in common wink In that case, what distinguishes witchcraft from other forms of magic? Which other forms of magic? wink . I tend to foil witchcraft against more ceremonial forms of magic, so I see witchcraft as more down-to-earth and...personal (I think that's the word I want). Of course I may be wrong in holding witchcraft and Ceremonial sorts of magic as opposites. I was thinking largely Ceremonial stuff. But also, in defining witchcraft we're saying, like, "this counts" and "this doesn't". Does hoodoo count? At what point does a magic ritual become "ceremonial" rather than "witchcraft", and how much overlap is there? Is it witchcraft because a witch is doing it? All these things I find difficult to answer whee Ah ok we were on the same sort of page there at least, with the witchcraft/Ceremonial magic thing xd Yea, it is hard to answer and divide and define there xp .
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Violet Song jat Shariff Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 9:35 am
Sanguina Cruenta I was thinking largely Ceremonial stuff. But also, in defining witchcraft we're saying, like, "this counts" and "this doesn't". Does hoodoo count? At what point does a magic ritual become "ceremonial" rather than "witchcraft", and how much overlap is there? Is it witchcraft because a witch is doing it? All these things I find difficult to answer whee I think what makes it "witchcraft", rather than some other form of magic is the "crafting" aspect. Basically the outcome of the ritual/magical working would determine if it's witchcraft or not - are you actually crafting something or not. I'm probably not articulating this very well,I can see it in my head, but can't quite find the right way to spit it out, but it goes a bit towards what was mentioned recently in the FAQ thread.
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Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 8:32 pm
Witchcraft is an awareness of the energies that exist around us; it is the knowledge that we can create an effect upon these energies with a thought, a word, or gesture; it is also the conscious decision to act upon that knowledge in accordance with ones need, will or desire.
I think witchcraft differs from other magical systems in that it is more of a craft. In witchcraft you are creating or crafting an outcome out of elements that may or may not be tangible objects. The actions are about the witch creating the result as opposed the witch's actions being about appeasing a deity, spirit or entity in order to have them create the change. Witchcraft also differs in that it doesn't require a religious or cultural association. It can be a secular practice.
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Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:40 am
I agree, Mercy.
I think in a way... I want to find more similarities between different peoples' witchcrafts, but at the same time recognise that there's little lumping it all together and that at its heart the definition is about the craft itself, not about our experience of the craft. But maybe the experience of the craft, that is, actively experiencing it as an element of your life, is what makes one a witch rather than a practitioner of witchcraft.
I feel like those of us who practice witchcraft want to explain these other elements that we feel are a part of it, but they're ineffable.
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