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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:36 pm
No offence, but I believe it is one of the most screwed up religions. If you disagree, give me PROOF [THAT GOD IS REAL]
And no, Im not saying your religion is wrong, its just that Im athiest and I think some religions are better off never made. It would be better without the wars over religion
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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:41 pm
People cannot give concrete proof that God is real, but Atheists cannot do it either. If one side could, we wouldnt be in such turmoil about which spiritual path to follow, if any.
JUST MY 2 CENTS.
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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:53 pm
I agree with what Apple says, BUT I'm throwing in a twist.
You see, there is no proof that God does or doesn't exist... However, reasoning tells me that God would have to defy many laws of physics to exist and have some killer cheat codes and I don't believe that. If you're a person who think faith is all that is needed here than I wont disagree. However, don't look me in the eye and give me some mumbo-jumbo BS theory.
P.S. Christianity isn't the MOST messed up religion. Christianism maybe, but not Christianity.
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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:38 pm
Alicia_Nobody No offence, but I believe it is one of the most screwed up religions. Care to explain why? Quote: If you disagree, give me PROOF[THAT GOD IS REAL] ??? How does proving the existence of the Christian deity prove that the religion isn't messed up =/ ? Quote: And no, Im not saying your religion is wrong, Then why call it messed up and offer no reasons for calling it such. So? Quote: and I think some religions are better off never made. Agreed but probably for different reasons than you. Quote: It would be better without the wars over religion Most wars aren't fought over religion. Religion is often used as a cover for bigger issues that wars are often fought over though. Just to give a few examples, they include crappy foreign policies, land acquisition, economic depressions, etc. Getting rid of religion won't stop wars nor lessen them.
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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:42 pm
Well that is a rather interesting way to put it all.
But here's a thinker for ya. Why do you think Christianity has been around for thousands of years if it is that messed up?
I personally am getting tired of seeing the scientology comercials on cable now. The "inventor" admitted that he made it up.
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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:51 pm
Aakosir But here's a thinker for ya. Why do you think Christianity has been around for thousands of years if it is that messed up? Well dontcha know. it's because the ebil xtian empire has been controlling things for ages by brain washing the children and opposing science and actively killing off opponents with their Catalina Monk who teleport in on unsuspecting dissenters and slice their throats. Then the march in with Giant DemiArmors and destroy the opposing city and set up a puppet government to rule in it's stead biggrin Yep it's all true. I saw it on a website and my best friend heard about it on history channel or something. Quote: I personally am getting tired of seeing the scientology comercials on cable now. The "inventor" admitted that he made it up. I honestly don't think I've seen a scientology commercial except once on youtube. Though almost everything is on youtube. Sometimes porn but you got to catch it before it's deleted.
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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:42 pm
This pickled vegetable...If you're Atheist why are you attacking Christianity specifically and not every other religion in the world? What makes Christianity so much more "messed-up" than all the other religions of the world? ... could kick your a** !!
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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:22 pm
Everyone else said it all for me. biggrin
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Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 11:50 pm
I'm sorry if all your horrible experiences at the hands of religious people have been dealt by people who call themselves Christians. There are some very beautiful principles in that religion though. If they were truly adhered to by all who claim it as their own, then the world would look much different. It is a shame that so many people just use religion to further their agendas, and that goes for religions across the board.
Sorry to be off topic, but I find the Scientology commercials rather intriguing. I've seen them mostly on the channels that my kids watch, and on the Sci-fi and BBCA channels to a lesser extent. I always must stop and look at the faces flashing on the screen. I don't know, but I think they may be trying to brainwash me... rolleyes LOL
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 6:08 am
Captain_Shinzo I agree with what Apple says, BUT I'm throwing in a twist.
You see, there is no proof that God does or doesn't exist... However, reasoning tells me that God would have to defy many laws of physics to exist and have some killer cheat codes and I don't believe that. If you're a person who think faith is all that is needed here than I wont disagree. However, don't look me in the eye and give me some mumbo-jumbo BS theory.
P.S. Christianity isn't the MOST messed up religion. Christianism maybe, but not Christianity. This is usually personal, but a part of my family had a huge fight because we were athiest and christians dont like them usually
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 6:13 am
rmcdra Alicia_Nobody No offence, but I believe it is one of the most screwed up religions. Care to explain why? Quote: If you disagree, give me PROOF[THAT GOD IS REAL] ??? How does proving the existence of the Christian deity prove that the religion isn't messed up =/ ? Quote: And no, Im not saying your religion is wrong, Then why call it messed up and offer no reasons for calling it such. So? Quote: and I think some religions are better off never made. Agreed but probably for different reasons than you. Quote: It would be better without the wars over religion Most wars aren't fought over religion. Religion is often used as a cover for bigger issues that wars are often fought over though. Just to give a few examples, they include crappy foreign policies, land acquisition, economic depressions, etc. Getting rid of religion won't stop wars nor lessen them. No actually, there were to many religion wars to count. If a man, different religion confronted another man of another religion and says "Hey I can kill you since you don't believe in my god" Its as simple as that. Most people say "I only do bad things becase Jesus/God/{-Another religious god-}, especially during the 9/11
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 6:19 am
Alicia_Nobody No actually, there were to many religion wars to count. Name ten.
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 6:22 am
The wars would have happened anyway, and I think that the wars are more of a people issue than they are a religious issue. Wars happen because people are bad, not because the religion itself is bad. If religion had been removed, then wars would still have happened, but a different ideology would have been used to convince the masses to pick up a weapon. Personally, I believe it would be love for the state / extreme patriotism that would fill the void.
Christianity isn't one of the worst religions out there, by far. Millions of dollars are raised per year by Christians for charity, and many Christian aid groups are out there helping people. Sure, we have our nuts, but so does everybody, and there were many people who had a decent meal to eat and a warm place to sleep last night because of a Christian.
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:01 am
Aakosir Well that is a rather interesting way to put it all.
But here's a thinker for ya. Why do you think Christianity has been around for thousands of years if it is that messed up?
I personally am getting tired of seeing the scientology comercials on cable now. The "inventor" admitted that he made it up. rofl I've seen those commercials. Right now at my work, Dollar Tree, we have about 5 titles of L. Ron Hubbard's books. Yeap, all $1.
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Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:16 am
rmcdra Aakosir But here's a thinker for ya. Why do you think Christianity has been around for thousands of years if it is that messed up? Quote: Well dontcha know. it's because the ebil xtian empire has been controlling things for ages by brain washing the children and opposing science and actively killing off opponents with their Catalina Monk who teleport in on unsuspecting dissenters and slice their throats. Then the march in with Giant DemiArmors and destroy the opposing city and set up a puppet government to rule in it's stead biggrin Yep it's all true. I saw it on a website and my best friend heard about it on history channel or something. Oh wow. I don't think I could have made up something that goofy if I had tried XP No offenceQuote: I personally am getting tired of seeing the scientology comercials on cable now. The "inventor" admitted that he made it up. Quote: I honestly don't think I've seen a scientology commercial except once on youtube. Though almost everything is on youtube. Sometimes porn but you got to catch it before it's deleted. Yea. It starts out with this pretty young girl and shows all these happy nature related images. Too bad it doesn't show how they suck all your money in to their "cause" and leave you homeless. And of course it ends with another pretty young girl. I thought they were in to their "Man retreats" where they go out in to the desert and molest little boys.
Alright. I fail at that quote thing you do rmcdra
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