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Is eating animals wrong?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 6:22 pm


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 7:20 pm


Thats exactly why Im a vegitarian

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 7:27 pm


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Here's what I think about eating animals, it's disgusting and although they taste delicious we shouldn't be eating them. Eating animals is like eating humans. Just because animals are less intelligent and they are limited to their capabilities doesn't mean that they are of less value than humans. Humans disgust me, I hate human nature. Greed, corruption, hate, jealousy, evilness, desire, all things which burden humans are the reason I believe humans are terrible creatures. If somehow reincarnation truly exists then I hope you be reincarnated into a chicken or a fish to experience how it feels to have your limbs teared off or to see how it feels to be taken from your only source of life and left to die.

I believe it's in an animal's nature to eat from other animals so I don't blame them, also because they survive in the wild while being targeted by predators every day and every animal has it's prey. I believe humans should only be allowed to eat fruit, vegetables, plants and other types of food that are not from an animal or an animal itself.

Ever since I realized how eating animals is a terrible thing, whenever I eat animals now my stomach starts to hurt because I've stored the idea that eating animals is wrong somewhere in my brain. I always loved meat, everyday I would eat pepperoni pizza because that was my favorite food and now I won't eat it. You can learn a lot of spiritual concepts from the cartoon Avatar: The Last Airbender. It's actually a pretty smart show.


animals eat animals... its in there nature, humans are animals, its in our nature. to not follow nature is wrong. eat what you need to survive, and try to defend and help your pack. while respecting the land and its creatures.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 7:31 pm


That's great that you believe that, but I don't. But since we're wishing reincarnations on people, wouldn't it be swell if you were reincarnated as a lettuce plant, only to have your corporeal form ripped to shreds and then crushed and digested by some animal?

Humans are animals that eat other animals. We're no different than the predators in the wild that have to eat other animals to survive; we just developed tools to make it more efficient.

Plants have feelings too. Maybe we shouldn't eat plants either. How would you like it if someone came by and stepped on you, or scooped you up and boiled you to death and ate you? I don't suspect it's very enjoyable.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 7:37 pm


Nowhere in that diatribe do you actually give a reason to stop eating meat.

"It's disgusting" - that's an opinion. I think it's delicious, personally. Not only that, I also think it's acceptable, and biologically, we're obviously adapted to doing so. When you're trying to make a point, opinions don't really matter because they don't provide any sort of REASONING to why the statement should be considered right or wrong.

"Eating animals is like eating humans" - This is just an opinion, so it doesn't really matter in the larger scheme of things. You think it's like eating people. Personally, I think it's not that much alike, but whatever. Not really relevant either way.

"I believe it's in an animal's nature to eat from other animals, so I don't blame them" - well, that's great, because you just argued against your own case. If you didn't notice, humans; homo sapiens, are animals. Specifically, we're primates, of the class Mammalia, phylum Chordata, kingdom Animalia.

If animals are allowed to eat other animals, then man, by way of being an animal (being sapient and self-aware does not exclude us from being animals, before you suggest it) are allowed to eat animals.

I have something for you to do: Go to your bathroom. Look in the mirror. Smile, open your mouth, whatever.

Assuming you have your natural teeth, you should see about four pointed teeth in there. Those are called incisors. We have them, and animals such as tigers, dogs, and cats have their own equivalent. Do you know what they are there for? For the express purpose of piercing and cutting into meat; only omnivores (such as ourselves) and carnivores (animals that only eat meat) have them. Herbivores usually only have flat teeth for grinding plant matter.

As described above, we have these teeth - oh, and don't forget the ability to DIGEST MEAT - for a reason. Because meat has been a foodsource for mankind since before the dawn of history. We're biologically designed to eat both animal and plant matter, and to draw nutrients from both.

If, as you say, we're not supposed to eat meat, then we would simply not be biologically capable of it in any feasible amount. If we weren't supposed to eat meat, we would never do so in the first place, why would we eat meat if not because evolution has biologically designed us to do so? The very fact that we have the ability to eat meat, and do, is a sign that it's perfectly natural and fine to do so.

Now, what isn't fine is animal cruelty. Cockfights, dog fights, killing animals for sport without using their meat and other products, penning animals up for their entire lives, torturing them. Yes, that's all very wrong. However, eating meat is obviously perfectly reasonable and fine, because we're biologically adapted to do so.

If people have ethical problems with eating meat because of animal abuse issues, okay, that's you're prerogative. No problems there, what someone does is their own business. But if you think we, as a species, are not supposed to eat meat, you'd be wrong.

tl;dr: What you do is your own business, but humans as a species can eat meat, there's nothing wrong with it; we're biologically adapted to doing so. So no, eating meat is not "wrong" at all.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 7:38 pm


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That's great that you believe that, but I don't. But since we're wishing reincarnations on people, wouldn't it be swell if you were reincarnated as a lettuce plant, only to have your corporeal form ripped to shreds and then crushed and digested by some animal?

Humans are animals that eat other animals. We're no different than the predators in the wild that have to eat other animals to survive; we just developed tools to make it more efficient.

Plants have feelings too. Maybe we shouldn't eat plants either. How would you like it if someone came by and stepped on you, or scooped you up and boiled you to death and ate you? I don't suspect it's very enjoyable.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 7:39 pm


I will agree with you that humans are disgusting, greedy creatures. However I believe that humans were meant to eat meat. That is why we are built the way we are. I don't condone to people being wasteful. They should respect the animals that give them food and other things.

I think of it as this. In the wild. Animals eat other animals. They have created their own defense and attack mechanisms to gather food. Our mechanism is developed in our brains. We have found out how to create tools for ourselves that allow us to kill animals and help us live.

And vegetarians? Just because you can't hear that lettuce or carrot scream doesn't mean it doesn't feel any pain when you're ripping it from the ground and boiling it alive. >.>; We should all just not eat. That would be the most moral thing to do. Okay, lame a** joke over with.

Either way, it's everyone's decision. What they do. What they eat. Think about the Innuit or other Northern Native people's. Who lived in a land where there was permafrost, meaning no plants grew there year round. It is an adaptation for them to create tools and live in their environment, catching fishing and animals to eat as well as using their furs and bones. People still live like this. Few people are not as appreciative over their food as they should be and are unaware of where it comes from. But some people ARE. And reguardless of what anyone thinks. Protein is a vital part of human diets. And of course we are meant to eat meat. Yes, there are other sources of meat. But those are just options along with the meat. It's great to have options. It doesn't mean anyone is a bad person.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 7:46 pm


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Thats exactly why Im a vegitarian

plants eat and feel to biggrin

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:09 pm



I am an animal. Like many other animals, I eat animals. A lion doesn't have a moral crisis as it's tearing apart it's prey. Why should I? Rabbits don't eat grass because they don't want to hurt other animals. They do it because that's what their bodies have evolved to eat, over millions of years. My body has evolved to eat animals and plants. It needs both of them to be in tip top shape. I'm not going to deprive it of what it needs.

Oh, and I'm one of the biggest animal lovers you'll ever meet. I love me the warm and fuzzies, but I don't get all sad when it's time to feed rats and guinea pigs to the anacondas. Circle of life, the girls gotta eat.

Also, your post put animals down by calling them less intelligent. I work with fish that are smarter than most people I know.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:21 pm


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Nowhere in that diatribe do you actually give a reason to stop eating meat.

"It's disgusting" - that's an opinion. I think it's delicious, personally. Not only that, I also think it's acceptable, and biologically, we're obviously adapted to doing so. When you're trying to make a point, opinions don't really matter because they don't provide any sort of REASONING to why the statement should be considered right or wrong.

"Eating animals is like eating humans" - This is just an opinion, so it doesn't really matter in the larger scheme of things. You think it's like eating people. Personally, I think it's not that much alike, but whatever. Not really relevant either way.

"I believe it's in an animal's nature to eat from other animals, so I don't blame them" - well, that's great, because you just argued against your own case. If you didn't notice, humans; homo sapiens, are animals. Specifically, we're primates, of the class Mammalia, phylum Chordata, kingdom Animalia.

If animals are allowed to eat other animals, then man, by way of being an animal (being sapient and self-aware does not exclude us from being animals, before you suggest it) are allowed to eat animals.

I have something for you to do: Go to your bathroom. Look in the mirror. Smile, open your mouth, whatever.

Assuming you have your natural teeth, you should see about four pointed teeth in there. Those are called incisors. We have them, and animals such as tigers, dogs, and cats have their own equivalent. Do you know what they are there for? For the express purpose of piercing and cutting into meat; only omnivores (such as ourselves) and carnivores (animals that only eat meat) have them. Herbivores usually only have flat teeth for grinding plant matter.

As described above, we have these teeth - oh, and don't forget the ability to DIGEST MEAT - for a reason. Because meat has been a foodsource for mankind since before the dawn of history. We're biologically designed to eat both animal and plant matter, and to draw nutrients from both.

If, as you say, we're not supposed to eat meat, then we would simply not be biologically capable of it in any feasible amount. If we weren't supposed to eat meat, we would never do so in the first place, why would we eat meat if not because evolution has biologically designed us to do so? The very fact that we have the ability to eat meat, and do, is a sign that it's perfectly natural and fine to do so.

Now, what isn't fine is animal cruelty. Cockfights, dog fights, killing animals for sport without using their meat and other products, penning animals up for their entire lives, torturing them. Yes, that's all very wrong. However, eating meat is obviously perfectly reasonable and fine, because we're biologically adapted to do so.

If people have ethical problems with eating meat because of animal abuse issues, okay, that's you're prerogative. No problems there, what someone does is their own business. But if you think we, as a species, are not supposed to eat meat, you'd be wrong.

tl;dr: What you do is your own business, but humans as a species can eat meat, there's nothing wrong with it; we're biologically adapted to doing so. So no, eating meat is not "wrong" at all.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:23 pm


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I am an animal. Like many other animals, I eat animals. A lion doesn't have a moral crisis as it's tearing apart it's prey. Why should I? Rabbits don't eat grass because they don't want to hurt other animals. They do it because that's what their bodies have evolved to eat, over millions of years. My body has evolved to eat animals and plants. It needs both of them to be in tip top shape. I'm not going to deprive it of what it needs.

Oh, and I'm one of the biggest animal lovers you'll ever meet. I love me the warm and fuzzies, but I don't get all sad when it's time to feed rats and guinea pigs to the anacondas. Circle of life, the girls gotta eat.

Also, your post put animals down by calling them less intelligent. I work with fish that are smarter than most people I know.

it doesn't take much to be smarter then alot of people...
PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:46 pm


Hey, Desire can be a good thing too! What about the desire for knowledge? Or a desire to help others? A desire for freedom?

EDIT:
on topic: I agree with you because I believe it's healthier to maintain a vegan diet. I am not a vegan but I think I might be, when I can afford to pay/make my own meals.

on another note: I don't think it's fair to compare the intellegences between species. Our brains could be equally complex & at similar functioning levels, but work in entirely different ways.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 8:49 pm


I don't think it's wrong, but it isn't healthy eating only veggies. You don't get that much protein.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 10:24 pm


I think it's in my animal nature to be a carnivore. But if eating animals is wrong, maybe I should just cannibalize?

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 03, 2010 10:27 pm


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That's great that you believe that, but I don't. But since we're wishing reincarnations on people, wouldn't it be swell if you were reincarnated as a lettuce plant, only to have your corporeal form ripped to shreds and then crushed and digested by some animal?

Humans are animals that eat other animals. We're no different than the predators in the wild that have to eat other animals to survive; we just developed tools to make it more efficient.

Plants have feelings too. Maybe we shouldn't eat plants either. How would you like it if someone came by and stepped on you, or scooped you up and boiled you to death and ate you? I don't suspect it's very enjoyable.


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