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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:03 am
I'm going off my birth control. See, I'm on the Nuvaring, and I'm overseas for a month, and I don't have a new one to put in. I honestly forgot to pick one up from the pharmacy. I'll be off my BC for a month before I even get the opportunity to pick up a new ring.... which i'm not going to take that opportunity.
My boyfriend is slightly disrespectful and controlling when it comes to sex. He does sexually abuse me, and I often have sex when I really don't want to, just because I know he wants it.
Since February, I have had sexual complications due to my anorexia. Basically, I can no longer orgasm and I don't feel pleasure during sex.
He knows this, but we still have sex for the benefit of him. I have talked to him about abstinence, because I honestly can't handle the physical and mental aspects of sexual intercourse, or any sexual behavior at all. The most he's agreed to is having sex every other week. I've tried to explain to him and get him to agree to a vow of abstinence... but no.
Also, he doesn't want me to go off my BC because he's afraid that my period will disappear for good. Right now, I only get "break through fake periods" because I'm on a hormonal birth control.
The way I see it....
No BC, no sex. Also, because I won't be on BC, he'll sexually abuse me less, as in he won't be groping my in public and all... because he wouldn't want to get aroused because he wouldn't be able to have sex with me.
Okay, yeah, there's the chance that he could rape me (again) and get me pregnant.... But while I have little sexual trust in him, he's not an idiot. I don't think he'd put me in that kind of danger. put US in that kind of teenage pregnancy danger.
i want abstinence, and i honestly believe this is the only way to get it.
sorry for the length of this post. but, uh, does this seem like a totally stupid idea? i really want to do it. i hate sex, i dont want it, but he wants it, but i think he wouldn't pressure me if i wasn't protected. i think that sums it up.
any advice on how to bring up this idea to him?
it boils down to the fact that it's MY nuvaring, it's MY perscription, I'M the one who has to pick it up from the pharamacy... and if i don't freaking want this drug, then i'm just not going to be on it. it's my bc, and my choice.
thanks for reading. x3
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:17 am
You need to ditch the guy and bring him up on charges. If he's abusing you, you don't need to be with him. He is NOT in control of your body. Getting rid of him sounds like its the ONLY way to keep him from doing things to you that you don't want done. There is no reasoning with someone who is an abuser.
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:55 am
Get out of that relationship fast. He's abusing you, and you've said so yourself. If you have to sit there and be worried that he's going to sexually assault you or even rape you (again), you need to get out. Tell someone. That's great that you want to be abstinent, but you shouldn't have to worry about him doing something to you. Your body, your rules. But please, do yourself a favor and get away from him.
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:01 am
Honestly, I wouldn't even talk to him about it. I would just get the hell out of the relationship. Because if he abuses you and rapes you, he doesn't deserve an explanation as to why you're leaving. He'll figure it out. Just get out and focus on getting yourself healthy again.
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:28 am
I'm away from him for a whole month... he's back in the states and i'm in the Caribbean with my dad...
Okay, he's not like 24/7 abuse abuse abuse. he's really not that bad. everybody has a little abuse in there life, right?
and when I say the word "abuse", i'm referring to like... when he touches my breasts when i tell him not to, or when... well, he's really controlling and i'm not allowed to do certain things...
but he does the controlling and restricting my life because i've done bad things to myself and he's trying to protect me.
it's just the sexuality that i can't handle. he's a 19 year old boy, and... he doesn't really respect me all that much. like he thinks my body belongs to him, kind of?
look, i know it's an unhealthy relationship. but i cant leave it "fast" like you all said.
i'm getting my license in september, hopefully.... and i'm moving into my uni dorm in late august, i need his help with that. and ihave no way of getting home besides him picking me up and driving me. so i have to wait till i get my license, for sure....
he takes good care of me. he just.... well, he cares a lot and loves me. he just loves me too much and likes to show it?
the rape happened ONE time. ONE TIME. he's been semi-good since then. and, on that night, i didn't put up a huge fight. i could have stopped the violence if i had tried harder... if i had said NO louder...
._. thanks for your help guys.... but i just... can't leave him.. not right now.
bleh, this post didn't make much sense...
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:50 am
Little or a lot, it's still abuse. If he was really protecting you, he wouldn't be hurting you. You should never, ever let someone control your life despite what you've done in your past.
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 11:03 am
Even one rape is too many. And it's not your fault. If you said "no," then you said "no." You shouldn't have to shout it and put a serious fight against your own boyfriend.
So it still sounds like leaving fast would probably be the healthiest thing for you. I know it'll mean a lot of changes and even sacrifices for you. And I know that's hard. In fact, I know exactly how hard it is because I was in an abusive relationship for four years. I kept thinking, "I can change him...maybe it'll get better...I'm afraid of change...I'm afraid to admit to people that he's abusive..." But looking back, getting out of it was one of the best things I ever did in life. I hate to think how I would be living right now if we were still together and I was still living in fear. No one should have to live with any fear of their partner.
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 11:24 am
lavender opheliac I'm away from him for a whole month... he's back in the states and i'm in the Caribbean with my dad... Okay, he's not like 24/7 abuse abuse abuse. he's really not that bad. everybody has a little abuse in there life, right? and when I say the word "abuse", i'm referring to like... when he touches my breasts when i tell him not to, or when... well, he's really controlling and i'm not allowed to do certain things... but he does the controlling and restricting my life because i've done bad things to myself and he's trying to protect me. it's just the sexuality that i can't handle. he's a 19 year old boy, and... he doesn't really respect me all that much. like he thinks my body belongs to him, kind of? look, i know it's an unhealthy relationship. but i cant leave it "fast" like you all said. i'm getting my license in september, hopefully.... and i'm moving into my uni dorm in late august, i need his help with that. and ihave no way of getting home besides him picking me up and driving me. so i have to wait till i get my license, for sure.... he takes good care of me. he just.... well, he cares a lot and loves me. he just loves me too much and likes to show it? the rape happened ONE time. ONE TIME. he's been semi-good since then. and, on that night, i didn't put up a huge fight. i could have stopped the violence if i had tried harder... if i had said NO louder... ._. thanks for your help guys.... but i just... can't leave him.. not right now. bleh, this post didn't make much sense... It makes a lot of sense, unfortunately. We push for you to leave the relationship because we care and we worry about you, but in the end it has to be your decision. We can't force you to do anything. If you continue to stay in the relationship, we'll worry about you, that's all. Several members in this guild, including myself and Lorien (as you'll see, because I'm editing this in after seeing her post) have been in abusive relationships, so we know where you're coming from. I remember I used to sound a lot like you. I was with a guy for a year and a half, and things had soured by the end of the relationship. He never physically abused me or raped me or anything, but we lived together for 5.5 months after the break-up, and he was emotionally abusive. I remember making excuses for his behaviour and trying to reason his words to other people, and for the longest time I just couldn't see it. I think it took almost a full year before I was able to step back and say that yes, I had been at fault, but it didn't excuse the ways he had treated me and that he had been at fault too. In reply to your comment about everyone having a little abuse in their lives, it depends on what you mean. If you meant it in a relationship-couple sense, no, people in healthy relationships don't have that. If my boyfriend was doing something I didn't like and I asked him to stop, he would. Because he loves me and respects me, and he doesn't want to hurt me or make me uncomfortable. As for him controlling you, regardless of whatever his supposed reasons are, they're not an excuse. I don't know how old you are, but given that you're going to university soon, I'd say that makes you old enough to control your own life and make your own decisions. If you've made decisions in your own past, then you are the only person who can take responsibility for that, and you can change your actions. You don't have to be the person now that you were back then, and you certainly don't need to have him controlling your moves because of whatever happened in your past. Allowing yourself to be reliant on him is only going to reinforce his controlling behaviour and make it harder to leave, if you ever decide to do that. If you said "no" to sex, regardless of how loud, and he forced you anyways, that's rape. One "no" is all it should take, no matter how loud. He should've respected your decision and stopped. And as Lorien said, that wasn't your fault. If you need a ride to and from school, look into other transit options: Is there public transit you can take if you buy a bus pass? Some schools offer bus passes for their students that are included in the student fees. Can you get a ride with a classmate or friend, at least until you can get your licence? For moving, can you ask some other friends to help you, or a relative to help you, so that way you don't have to rely on his help alone? In answer to your question, yes it's your body and if you want to make the decision to not have sex while you're not on the nuvaring (until your next prescription), then you're certainly within your own right to make that decision. But make sure you think it through - will he agree with your decision? If not, could he potentially try to force you to have sex without being on birth control? Would he at least wear a condom if you are going to have sex with him? Some things to think about so you don't put yourself into an unsafe situation with him. I will leave you with these two stickies that I highly recommend you read over and think about: The Healthy Relationships Sticky, and the How to Deal With an Abuse Partner/Spouse Sticky. If you read them and you still don't want to leave your relationship, I would advise you start making a back-up plan: find out if there's a woman's centre on campus, in case you need help or need to access resources there. Find out if there's a transition house (women's shelter) in your city, in case there's an emergency with him and you need to get away asap. Start saving money and put it into a side fund, in case you leave him and need funds to rely on for things like food and clothing. If things get worse and you need outside help, consider calling the police and telling them what's going on. Consider talking to a counsellor on campus or another mental health professional if you're stressed out (just be aware that if you talk about the rape/abuse, I believe they might be obligated to report it to the police, but don't quote me on that). And in the end, know this: You are a person worthy of love, trust and respect. You deserve a partner who will love you, respect you and treat you right. You deserve the right to make your own choices, regardless of your reasons, and have your partner respect those choices. You are a good person, making the best choices you can for your life. And while you've made mistakes in your past, we are all human and we all make mistakes. Life is to be lived freely.
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 12:19 pm
Thank you so much. This is all really hard for me, and I'm trying to accept that this behavior is NOT okay... but it's hard. gonk
My two past serious relationships before him.. they were abusive. Sexually and emotionally. Just like my current boyfriend. Yet, he's different than them. I have put him through pure s**t.. I've been in and out of hospitals and I have constant doctor and therapy appointments... all because of my mental illness/s. He has stayed by my side through everything... everything.
He takes care of me. He buys me food and takes me places and tucks me in at night sometimes... He watches movies with me and we go on walks together... He takes my mom to her chemo sometimes...
I don't have anyone besides him IRL. I'm serious, I don't have a single phone number to call that lives within 400 miles of me, to call if I need something. Anything. I have no one except for him.
My mom has cancer and is quite sick. She's going to make it, she's just really weak and all.
My university does have a bus on weekends, but it costs about 160 dollars, and it only takes 10 dollars of gas to get to my university, which is like 120 miles away...
yes, i am hoping that i will meet people in college who will be my friends. i'm really relying on that hope....
I've been in abusive relationships, and this feels different somehow. I guess because he actually does care and love me he just... shows it in ways I don't like.
i'm really scared and i'm confused and i want to get OUT of this.. i want to find someone who won't hurt me and is wonderful to me... but my family loves my current boyfriend and his family loves me and he loves me ... and it's like i'm the ONLY one who isn't happy with this situation. i feel selfish.
also, he often tells me that other people wouldn't put up with this bullshit that i do.
... other people don't have a history of severe cutting resulting in roughly 400 scars, and 2 hospital/rehab stays each lasting more than a week, and no one else would put up with their girlfriend starving herself to death because she has serious psychosis and depression and she's on a million medication and...
i'm just ******** up and i deserve the bad that comes from this good man. no one else would want me.
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 12:44 pm
First of all, having issues doesn't mean you deserve bad stuff.
Second, never get fooled into thinking no one else would want you. Abusers often tells their victims that no one else would want them just to scare them and put them down even more. But the truth is, no matter what you do, there is always someone out there who will accept you for who you are. There are probably even plenty of guys who are going through what you are going through or who went through it in the past and would be more than understanding and willing to try to help you through it.
Third, you don't need to worry about finding someone else right away anyway. In fact, it'd probably be best to work through your issues before getting into a new relationship anyway. So focus on being healthy. Don't worry about who will or won't want you in the future.
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:15 pm
lavender opheliac Thank you so much. This is all really hard for me, and I'm trying to accept that this behavior is NOT okay... but it's hard. gonk My two past serious relationships before him.. they were abusive. Sexually and emotionally. Just like my current boyfriend. Yet, he's different than them. I have put him through pure s**t.. I've been in and out of hospitals and I have constant doctor and therapy appointments... all because of my mental illness/s. He has stayed by my side through everything... everything. He takes care of me. He buys me food and takes me places and tucks me in at night sometimes... He watches movies with me and we go on walks together... He takes my mom to her chemo sometimes... I don't have anyone besides him IRL. I'm serious, I don't have a single phone number to call that lives within 400 miles of me, to call if I need something. Anything. I have no one except for him. My mom has cancer and is quite sick. She's going to make it, she's just really weak and all. My university does have a bus on weekends, but it costs about 160 dollars, and it only takes 10 dollars of gas to get to my university, which is like 120 miles away... yes, i am hoping that i will meet people in college who will be my friends. i'm really relying on that hope.... I've been in abusive relationships, and this feels different somehow. I guess because he actually does care and love me he just... shows it in ways I don't like. i'm really scared and i'm confused and i want to get OUT of this.. i want to find someone who won't hurt me and is wonderful to me... but my family loves my current boyfriend and his family loves me and he loves me ... and it's like i'm the ONLY one who isn't happy with this situation. i feel selfish. also, he often tells me that other people wouldn't put up with this bullshit that i do. ... other people don't have a history of severe cutting resulting in roughly 400 scars, and 2 hospital/rehab stays each lasting more than a week, and no one else would put up with their girlfriend starving herself to death because she has serious psychosis and depression and she's on a million medication and... i'm just ******** up and i deserve the bad that comes from this good man. no one else would want me. You're right, it is very hard. When you're used to thinking or feeling a certain way, or when you don't have high expectations for yourself, it can be hard to reject the few positive things you feel you have in your life, even if they're hurting you at the same time. A really good book, if you can find a copy of it, is called "Too Good to Leave, Too Bad to Stay" by Mira Kirshenbaum. (If you can't find a copy but would like to read it, PM me and we can work something out.) I read it when I was still living with my then-boyfriend, and I can still remember getting to the end of the books and just sobbing, very upset. Because I knew: the relationship/situation I was in was unhealthy, he probably didn't love me anymore (he'd said as much), and chances were he wasn't going to change his mind or change his ways and "come around." Some websites to look at too if you're interested: Hidden HurtA Survivor Tells Her StoryRelationship Warning Signs ChecklistIt's really hard to be in a relationship when you don't have the self-confidence and self-esteem to love yourself first. It's hard to share half the weight of a relationship when you're on weak ground to begin with. And if you're choosing abusive boyfriends over and over (whether consciously or subconsciously), then you're shooting yourself in the knee to begin with. I will second Lorien's post and say that if you decide to leave the relationship, it'd be best for you to spend some time focusing on yourself and your life before getting into another relationship. There's always time to focus on a relationship later, but loving yourself and taking care of yourself should come first. That was a lesson I had to learn too after my then-boyfriend finally moved out. As Lorien said, having issues doesn't mean you deserve bad things. Having issues means you're human. In addition, having issues shouldn't mean you have to be passive and be controlled by someone else. Your partner should be with you because he cares about you and wants to help you through a difficult time. I've made so many mistakes (some really big ones) and done a lot of stupid stuff, but we stay together because we love each other and we want to be there for the other person. I don't feel like I've caused him any problems, because we adapt to the changed situation together and learned from the experiences. Well, if you have to rely on him for a ride, once you start school and you're on campus, network yourself as much as you can so you can make new friends. Find out what sports, clubs and activities are available. See if there's a carpool "association" set up (my university just set this up recently, actually) where people can volunteer to pick up and drop off other students who are on their way to campus too. Try out for things or join groups on campus that will let you meet other people and hopefully lead you to make new friends. You're not selfish for wanting to leave the relationship. Not at all. If no one else can see what you see in him, the abusive and the lack of respect and everything else, it just shows you how well he can hide those parts of him. But you don't have to justify your relationship to anyone - you can leave, and then explain it to your family and his after. You don't have to get into all the details, you can always say "He didn't treat me right and I wasn't happy in the relationship anymore," or even just "I wasn't happy with where the relationship was going." They can just deal with it after - it's your life, not theirs, and you're the one at risk, not them. I will also acknowledge that if you're used to having a boyfriend (as I used to be) and you're not used to being alone, being by yourself can be a hard adjustment. It can be very hard. After my ex broke up with me, I was clinically depressed for about a year, and came very very close to putting myself on anti-depressants. I hit rock bottom, as I usually put it, and spent that year rebuilding my life and my persona. I stopped being passive and passive-aggressive, and learned how to be strong, self-reliant and independet. Yeah it sucked, and it was really hard to do, but it made me a stronger, better person, and it made me the person I am today. There is someone out there for everyone. Don't let him fool you into thinking that he is the only one who will ever love you - he's not. If you were to leave the relationship and move on, you will meet someone else at some point, and enjoy a healthy, happy relationship.
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:33 pm
thank you. heart
but until then.. until i am able to leave him...
i have 29 more days on this island, away from him and his hands.
any advice on what to do if he makes a move and i say no but he does it again?
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:46 pm
lavender opheliac thank you. heart but until then.. until i am able to leave him... i have 29 more days on this island, away from him and his hands. any advice on what to do if he makes a move and i say no but he does it again? 1) You could consider telling your dad what's going on, or just say that you're having problems with your relationship, and could you count on him for some help and/or support if you find you need it? (I don't know how far away he lives usually, so this might not work.) I know you said your family and his didn't know though, so whether or not you want to reveal anything is up to you. 2) I would work on a back-up plan. If he tries to force you again and you need to leave, try to find a place you can go: maybe a relative can come get you, or you can take a bus somewhere? Can you get some Plan B, to try to prevent an unplanned pregnancy? Is there a transition house (women's shelter) that can come to pick you up if you need to stay somewhere for a few days? Are there any local/nearby resources in the phonebook who specialize in helping women who are in abusive relationships? 3) I would be prepared to call the police, honestly. If he's being abusive and/or tries to rape you again, I would call the cops. At the very least, you could file a complaint with them, and maybe they could take him away or help you get some help in accessing resources.
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:53 pm
is it still rape if i consent in the beginning, but i say no in the middle and he continues anyway?
also, i do want to emphasize that he purely raped me once. just once. ONCE!!!! and he hasn't done it since then.
he sexually abuses me by touching my breasts/butt when i don't want him to and always having his hands on me, and talking sexually about me.
i swear, the only compliment i get nowadays is "oh, you look sexy in that" or "thats so sexy baby" or anything sex related.
when we have sex... well, i'll explain it and maybe you can help me determine whose at fault here.
he makes little comments all day about sex, but he always says that we dont have to if i dont want to. but he so obviously wants it and he won't shut up about it. so by night time when we're alone... i'll ask him if he wants to. me:"do you want to?" him:"well, if you do..." "but do you want to?" "well, yes..." "okay, lets do it." "are you sure?" "yeah, i wanna make you happy... i feel like i only make you happy with my body... and oyu would love it... so... yeah." "aw, thanks, okies!" *commence sex*
and he totally knows that i fake orgasms every time. he pressures me to have them and he KNOWS i physically can't with my freaking dying health... but he pressures me to, and so i fake it, and he's all super happy. and he KNOWS i fake it, he actually said he'd rather i fake it then just laying there.
sorry if that's TMI.
also. there's another reason i shouldn't be having sex. like, really shouldn't... i have heart palpations from my anorexia, and omg it hurts so much exercise, and his type of sex... i feel like i'm going to have a heart attack, but of course i try and hide the pain and so he either just goes to sleep or leaves to go home..
uh, my point of this post was that he ISN'T currently raping me now, i am consenting, there's just a subconsious knowledge between us that i dont want to.
edit: my dad lives in st.thomas, USVI, and i live in virginia. he would be of no help to me. my college is like 2 hours away from my boyfriend's, and he plans to visit me a couple times a week. and potentially spend the night, which i am scared to death of.... i don't know of any shelters. i've never seen or heard of any in my current town back home, or at my college.
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Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:19 pm
I'm sorry to lean on it so forcefully. I have never been in a physically abusive relationship, nor have I ever been raped, so for me even once is too much. I am glad that it hasn't happened to you again since that one time, I just worry for you that's all. ninja My apologies for being pushy.
I would say that if you said no, even if halfway through, then yes he should have stopped, and yes that would be rape in my eyes. As soon as consent is revoked, regardless of reason, that's when it needs to stop.
Yeah, it sounds like he's being passive-aggressive with you. Blech. Having been like that myself, I hate seeing that in other people. It's manipulative and it's controlling. And since he knows how bad your health is, there's really no excuse for being pushy about it like that with you. And he knows you fake orgasming... wow, talk about being selfish and uncaring. gonk I have nothing nice to say about that, so I'll just stop there. (It's not TMI - after running this guild for years, nothing is TMI anymore. ^_~ )
Just out of curiousity, since I don't know anything about it, is there anything that the doctors can do for your heart palpatations? Is there any kind of treatment they can give you/do for your anorexia? (If you don't mind me asking - if that's too personal, you don't have to answer.)
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