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[Ariana baa chan]

kouri-chan_xx

You should choose an element affinity for your clan anyway. I know Sakon and Ukon didn't show one but just for the sake of completeness. Since element affinity is determined by genetics and all members of this clan will share the same (primary) affinity.

Okay I'll choose Raiton since lightning can perform diffusion

Okay... how are we going to do this?

I remember we were talking about paths. Do you want to set it or give the members of this clan a choice? (like, the both get even distribution points path, or the 1 is stronger 1 is weaker path)

I'll give the option of those two paths

Also I'm not too clear on this bloodline. The twins are fused aren't they? But one twin can rise out and attack... how about separation? Do they just separate whenever they feel like it?

Sakon and Ukon are able to separate and move freely within bodies. They are parasites basically.

As for the increased healing maybe if healing techniques are used, the dormant twin receives 1.5x the effect.
And there's a resting system implemented here where each resting post regains 10% of your chakra or constitution mod of Cp or Hp. Or 1 Cp/Hp per post, whichever is bigger. So maybe the dormant twin could receive double in resting posts. (They're different from medical ninjutsu)

How fast is that healing? Because I was trying to have the rate and chakra drain the same. It usually takes a large drain to heal well that was when the damage was really bad.

Tarenkyaku and Tarenken.. they're a taijutsu, so they don't need Cp. I was thinking of merging them actually. I mean they are pretty much the same thing, just with hands and legs lol.

lol Yeah they are and okay (Idk why it was separate)

Damage would be.. double damage. I know it says triple but that's for higher ranked stuff... like Konoha Goriki Senpu for example. Besides you only have two twins.
Requirements would be to be part of this bloodline, Taijutsu 25, Str 20, Dex 20. Is that OK?

And as for training I'm seeing 6 days. (=60 posts) Each. So it would make 120 posts in total. Well they could be done together if you combined the twins' two posts into one post for 60 posts... (as long as each individual post made by each twin is at least 4 sentences.)

Triple the damage was because Ukon or Sakon could extrude two of their limbs out to assist that one limb. For example Sakon would throw a kick with one leg and two of Ukons legs would extrude to kick at the same time.

I don't mind any requires that you set. (W/e you feel is reasonable I'll take)

Oh! Okay. When the twin is dormant, can he operate? Like, can he see, hear etc. Because that would possibly bring you dodge benefits.

Yeah, since in the anime the dormant person's head is somewhere sticking out of the host.

As for Kisei Kikai no Jutsu..
It should be of a higher rank. Is B Rank okay with you?
If so, the Cp cost should be in the 50s... 50 + 20 per turn? Is that too high? Or too low?
Damage. How quickly does this technique work? Depending on lethality I could either make it a quick effect technique or a slower technique that also brings other penalties to the invaded person. Like, decreased strength, skills, ability to dodge, etc.

Requirements. How does Level 10, Int 25, Ninjutsu 35 and Chakra Control 45 sound?

I want the damage to be between long and short. medium rate since they didnt get to go through side affects with Kiba since sakon ended the technique prematurely.
Once again requirements just make the journey and seeing how I'll only have 5 jutsus to learn length isnt much well despite that im nowhere near the levels to learn them xd

In the Special part just include the bit about how the user of this technique suffers an equal amount of damage sustained by the host body.

Ok

Training... 10 days? (100 posts) Again, each if applicable.

Ok woo i am going to have to pretype these learning posts while im a genin lol

We also have to talk about penalties... since you have pretty good bonuses, there would need to be a few penalties. Of course you have your double training penalty but there still needs to be a few more that actually apply in battle and dice rolling situations lol.

lol ugh not a rolling fan but ok lets see what we come up with. Also I have a problem, my new computer screen is HUGE and I don't think the 4 line thing is the same here since i made the internet font on this computer smaller than the computer came with so can you give me a letter amount for one line?

 

[Ariana baa chan]

kouri-chan_xx

OK to your first three points.

As for healing, well you can check out the medical techniques section of the jutsu list. Qyp actually linked to it in his third link in his post in your thread aha.
Actually, I might have got it wrong... I think you should create a new technique that represents the healing the dormant twin does (since it costs Cp, it's a technique). It's only performable by the dormant twin but can be used anytime (so when the body is moving, being battered etc.). But the effects only apply to the dormant twin. Gosh this is so confusing.

OK if I give you a scenario... say, the dominant twin is fighting and gets a really bad gash to the side. She suffers x damage. If the dormant twin comes out she would still have the gash at the side would she? So would she be weakened by it?


Ok well this does get a little confusing because:

kiba stabbed himself int he stomachand when Sakon came out he was injured with a gash on the stomach (idk when hr transformed it was gone but im gonna ignore that since i dont have a seal)

But letys say Sakon extruded his arms from Ukon and one of Sakon's arms got cut i dont think itd affect Ukon since it was Sakon's arm.

If Sakon's arm was inside Ukon and Ukon's arm got cut then when Sakon's arm would be cut when he got out.

The problem with this is the ability to heal while inside a host so idk if the damage would be evident if i used that technique. (eh got off topic with that last one)

And as for resting, typically you don't really gain more than +1 Hp/Cp per post until you get way up in levels...
You'd need a Constitution of 50 (mod: 20) to start gaining +2 in Hp per post for example. Though I might increase the resting rate. It's kind of ridiculously small actually. It still would never be as high as medical techniques could do though.

Honestly I think a double resting rate for the dormant twin is fair, especially since you're going to have to train both of them. Your twin won't be able to rest when the body's doing vigorous action (unless I'm wrong on this...) since the body has to be, well, in a resting state, but if one twin is practising ninjutsu or something and using their supply of Cp, since they're not really moving too much that's when the other twin can regain her Cp. It would just save on the amount of resting posts you'd have to make pretty much.

Well in the anime Sakon jumped into Ukon's body so that Ukon could fight while Sakon healed. In the anime he heals rapidly from a devastating attack by kakuro's puppet but at the cost of a lot of chakra. I think it'd be easier if you watched the episodes so you can see what I'm talking about.

@Taren... thing: Oh you're right. Well, I still think double damage is more fair so I'll set that. wink

Could we implement the triple damage somehow?


Hmmm. If the dormant twin is in the host body (and the senses are still working, and can communicate with the dominant twin) then I'd give it a +4 Wisdom [+2 mod]. To reflect an overall increase in awareness.

Well Idk if we need that since they are two separate people so increase senses would be needed. They'd just be acting on their own senses. What confused me a bit was They weren't looking in each other's direction since they were back to back yet they can still use the the other twin's body parts to attack or defend. Idk if their minds are in sync but i'd assume so.

Similarly if the twin is fused to her twin there would be a -4 penalty to Charisma. Is that too high for you (I figured you weren't planning on working on it, but... yeah...) It does build up after a while if you don't continually work on your Charisma... (Charisma doesn't only reflect your persuasiveness and force of personality, it also reflects your beauty and general approachability). In addition I'm adding a -2 per 10 levels penalty to Constitution since I figure that constantly sharing a body must be strenuous to the health of the two twins and just to balance out the gains to Wisdom as well as the improved healing abilities and powerful techniques a bit.

Well in the anime the twin that is usually the host is used to it with no affects while the one that is usually dormant has issues with being the host.

I was trying to have my character not sit as host or dormant to that extent, and I don't see how this would affect constitution since they both have brains and think for themselves.

Was aiming to keep them normal but I figure to make this process easier we should just only give one option and that's go by the anime strictly so we don't have so much confusion.

@Kisei kikai no jutsu: Ah, okay. I'm assuming the twin uses her chakra to break up the cells in the host body causing internal damage.
The base damage would be 20 - 35 per turn.
I won't give you any penalties to the host body but I'll give you a +15 bonus to an Intimidation roll that you may want to roll. I mean having another person's head stick out of your body would be pretty damn scary. Intimidation would pretty much give your opponent lots of penalties anyway by putting them in a state of panic. Check the Intimidation section in the Skills thread in the game system for more info.
So... i guess maybe this would make the intimidation skill more useful to you? Maybe.. XD

lol yeah I'm up for giving the person an option in response. They could be expecting it or just not as easily as scared as others. Kinda makes me feel like I'm piloting their character with that affect. (I do agree I'd be freaked out even if I was a ninja lol)

As for the monitor wide lines thing don't worry about it. Lines = sentences but not stupid short sentences like "I see." or "He was wrong." or whatever but you know, proper sentences of a decent length.

Hehe it would be nice if you could just put what we just talked about into the clan template and post it so I could compare it more easily (especially the in game stats). I think the stats are pretty much okay but I gotta make sure. Besides you'll have to use this template anyway when posting int he Master Clan Listing. XD

lol okay I will

 

[Ariana baa chan]

kouri-chan_xx

ariana x3 xxx

Clan Name: Soma no Ko (双魔の攻, Sōma no Kō; Literally meaning "Attack of an Evil Spirit Pair")
Village: Otogakure & Kirigakure
Element Affinity: Raiton

Description:
Soma no Ko (双魔の攻, Sōma no Kō; Literally meaning "Attack of an Evil Spirit Pair") is the bloodline ability belonging to Sakon and Ukon, which allows them to merge their bodies with other organic material. Ukon can emerge his limbs from Sakon's body to assist in blocking or attacking. Ukon's arms and legs can emerge from those of Sakon's to increase the force and quantity to his physical attacks. Ukon can separate from Sakon's body so that the two can attack independently for double teaming purposes. Due to laying dormant in Sakon, Ukon is not so strong alone and has issues being the host. Whilst dormant in organic material, Sakon or Ukon are capable of destroy the host's cells from the inside, to bring a slow death. The downside would be they are vulnerable to all damages that aren't done by their delicate procedure. If damaged while separated, one of the brothers can lay dormant in the other to heal at a rate significantly faster than a normal human. (Takes a large amount of chakra.)

History:
The Soma no ko were not the most common of bloodlines, but they were up there in terms of strength. Most of Soma no ko were known to specialize in assassination tactics. For a certain period of time they were feared for their amazing capabilities by those through out the great five shinobi villages but now that the numbers have grown scarce their presence is over looked.

In game Stats:
Option 1: None
Option 2:
-Character 1 receives 30 points to distribute
-Character 2 receives 10 points to distribute
-Character 1's str., Dex., & Chakra, must be at least 3x's Character 2's
-Character 2's Con., Str., & Dex., drops into half when it is the host.
-Dormant twin rests at double the rate.
-If one dies, so does the other?
I wouldn't use this one since I doubt they are that reliant, I feel it was more of an option.

About the Wisdom bonus, I was thinking that because they're sharing on body, well only one body needs to be doing the dodging right? But they have the awareness of two people inside them. So that accounts for the increase in awareness and reaction time. Well clearly when they are two separate people they would have to fend for themselves without the other twin's help (well, without them that close by.. XD) Them being able to use their other twin's body parts would just increase ability to react quicker even more.

As for the Charisma it's not really about whether they're used to it, but to outsiders that body shape is just unnatural and a bit scary hence the loss in Charisma.
okay i guess these okay

Hmmm I see... as in, when they sleep they sleep separately kind of thing? I always saw Ukon and Sakon are symbiotic, like they need each other to survive but if they use chakra they can be separate for a short while. (especially with the cursed seal... they could be two separate people). And because they share the body, the body has to work doubly hard to accomodate the two brains inside. Brains are very resource consuming... XD

Through out the fight they didn't seem to have a sign of strain in which they needed each other.

They were able to deactivate the seal when they were apart and still showed no signs in needing to be reliant. (until one of them got cut up of course and needed to heal)

Well they do have two bodies merged so that would mean they had two resources for the two brains. They probably eat twice as much anyway.

Jutsu List:
Jutsu Name: Taren (多連)
Description: Ukon's legs or arms sprout from one of Sakon's and they kick or punch the opponent, tripling the usual damage.
Rank: B-Rank
Cp Cost: None
Damage: Strikers number of hits times normal damage
Requirements: 25 Taijutsu, 20 Strength, 20 Dexterity
Training: 60 posts (each)
Special: Remember that the damage done depends on, which twin lands the hits, and how many of them they landed.
Owner: Sakon, Ukon, ...

OK, the way I see it, is that when they are fighting you treat them as separate people even if they are int he same body. But they still have the same attacking speed, so even if Sakon punches his opponent with one hand, and Ukon's two hands extend from Sakon's arm and punch the guy, Sakon can use his other arm to punch his opponent, but Ukon isn't quick enough to remove his hands from Sakon's other arm and also punch him from Sakon's other arm. Idk if you understood that... XD But that's why I am not too into triple damage in this case.
Also if I mixed up the twins I apologise XD
So that's just normal taijutsu. So not this technique.

lol I understood and that works

To make this technique triple damage you'd have to reflect both of them learning to work together and using each others' limbs to a high level and moving really quickly and bla bla bla so the requirements and training would be increased. (I see requirements as being Level 25, Taijutsu 50, 30 Str, 35 Dex.)

I decided to make that chart that corresponds to damage. For example the system int his guild determines how strong ones punches are right?
Well if I use this technique and only one punch lands then it does normal damage if two punches land it does normal damage twice if three punches land it does normal damage three times.

I decided to use this way since it is possible a few of the punches land and few are dodged.

Jutsu Name: Kisei Kikai no Jutsu (寄生鬼壊の術)
Description:A parasitic assassination technique done by Ukon that disassembles his body down to a molecular level, and enter the enemy's flesh. This cruel jutsu gradually corrodes the inner bodily cells of those he merges with, and death ensues.
Rank: B-Rank
Cp Cost: 50 - 20
Damage: 20 - 35
Requirements: Level 10, 25 Intelligence, 35 Ninjutsu, & 45 Chakra Control
Training: 60 posts (each)
Special: Though any injuries the host body receives are also suffered by the Ukon, leaving them susceptible to any of the host's suicide attempts. Adds +15 bonus to user's Intimidation roll.
Owner: Ukon, ...

The damage is actually 20-35 and not 20, then -35 biggrin (random number option)


oh okay I see I'll fix it

Jutsu Name: Soma no Esei
Description: Should any injury befall either Sakon or Ukon, they can merge with each other to heal. (only the dormant of the two heals) This way, their healing rate is much faster than that of a normal human's, though it depletes a large amount of chakra.
Rank: B-Rank
Cp Cost: -50 (- 20 per turn)
Damage: + 20 (+ 35 per turn)
Requirements: Level 10, 25 Intelligence, 35 Ninjutsu, & 45 Chakra Control
Training: 60 posts (Each)
Special:
Owner: Sakon, Ukon, ...

I added "Esei" to the name so the whole thing would be "Twin Demons' Healing" smile
Well I guess any damage to the body or anything would be partially healed by this technique at any rate. The effects would be visible once the dormant twin comes out. Umm... do you want the twins to share the CP cost, or just the dormant twin?
Either way the tradeoff would be 70 Cp per 50 Hp healed or something like that.

haha yeah i couldnt figure a name thanks. It woud make sense anyway you put it with the cost. I think I'll just make them share the cost. (what happens if i use this in a host other than my twin?)

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