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iRetaliate

PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:59 pm


Sorry if this is in the wrong section, but I just needed to ask...

Seeing as how Catholicism is centered around the ideals of "Father, Son, and Spirit", and Christianity is centered around that Jesus Christ is the son of god.

Wouldn't that mean that all catholics are blaspheming sinners?
PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 3:20 pm


Not at all. Catholicism is a form of Christianity. both belive in the trinity, it's just that Christians follow more closly with Jesus more than the father and the holy sprit.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 6:27 pm


ive seen christians call catholics blasphemers before .... ive even heard some of them say they worship the devil strangely ...

i can even post a few videos of a guy explaining why catholics are not christians <.<

its all just bizarre to me
PostPosted: Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:31 pm


iRetaliate
Sorry if this is in the wrong section, but I just needed to ask...

Seeing as how Catholicism is centered around the ideals of "Father, Son, and Spirit", and Christianity is centered around that Jesus Christ is the son of god.

Wouldn't that mean that all catholics are blaspheming sinners?
No... Christianity is centered around the ideals of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, not just Catholicism.

You have to understand that the early founders of the Christian church were Catholic. If you read the apostles creed it says

I believe in the Holy Ghost;
The holy Catholic Church;
etc...

The father is God the father. Even Jesus talks about how his Father in heaven knows things that he doesn't even know. An example would be that Jesus said that his father knew when he would return, but he didn't.

Jesus is the son of God hence the son

Then the spirit is mentioned heavily by Christ

Friar Thomas
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 9:51 am


Catholics do have a few false doctrines.

http://www.gotquestions.org/origin-Catholic-church.html

http://www.gotquestions.org/Catholic-Biblical.html

I hope that helps.
PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 9:56 am


Fighter_guy
ive seen christians call catholics blasphemers before .... ive even heard some of them say they worship the devil strangely ...

i can even post a few videos of a guy explaining why catholics are not christians <.<

its all just bizarre to me


Whats bizarre? When you take a religion and factionalize it, its branches are sure to fight each other. Denominations form due to different interpretations of scripture, yet most of them aren't guilty of false doctrine and/or blasphemy.

Go to http://www.gotquestions.org/denominations-Christian.html for more info.

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Friar Thomas
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:21 pm


RighteousMan117
Catholics do have a few false doctrines.

http://www.gotquestions.org/origin-Catholic-church.html

http://www.gotquestions.org/Catholic-Biblical.html

I hope that helps.
Even if they have false doctrine they are still Christians. The protestant and Catholic church needs to stop fighting, I believe Jesus said to love your neighbor, and Corinthians talks a lot about Love. The church needs to start loving its own members, otherwise we won't be doing nothin in this world
PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:14 pm


iRetaliate
Sorry if this is in the wrong section, but I just needed to ask...

Seeing as how Catholicism is centered around the ideals of "Father, Son, and Spirit", and Christianity is centered around that Jesus Christ is the son of god.

Wouldn't that mean that all catholics are blaspheming sinners?

I would say yes, but for different reasons other that "Father, Son, and Holy Spirit."
Christ as both fully human and fully divine is the cornerstone of Christianity. Even the weakest secular definition of Christianity has to acknowledge the divinity of Christ. Otherwise, we have no Christianity.

rosadria


Friar Thomas
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2010 11:59 pm


VK Fox
iRetaliate
Sorry if this is in the wrong section, but I just needed to ask...

Seeing as how Catholicism is centered around the ideals of "Father, Son, and Spirit", and Christianity is centered around that Jesus Christ is the son of god.

Wouldn't that mean that all catholics are blaspheming sinners?

I would say yes, but for different reasons other that "Father, Son, and Holy Spirit."
Christ as both fully human and fully divine is the cornerstone of Christianity. Even the weakest secular definition of Christianity has to acknowledge the divinity of Christ. Otherwise, we have no Christianity.
I'm sorry but I strongly disagree with you. Catholics are Christians we cannot separate them. We have no right to judge catholics simply because they are catholic
PostPosted: Sat Apr 17, 2010 5:51 pm


Friar Thomas
VK Fox
iRetaliate
Sorry if this is in the wrong section, but I just needed to ask...

Seeing as how Catholicism is centered around the ideals of "Father, Son, and Spirit", and Christianity is centered around that Jesus Christ is the son of god.

Wouldn't that mean that all catholics are blaspheming sinners?

I would say yes, but for different reasons other that "Father, Son, and Holy Spirit."
Christ as both fully human and fully divine is the cornerstone of Christianity. Even the weakest secular definition of Christianity has to acknowledge the divinity of Christ. Otherwise, we have no Christianity.
I'm sorry but I strongly disagree with you. Catholics are Christians we cannot separate them. We have no right to judge catholics simply because they are catholic

If they practice, and teach things contrary to Biblical teachings, then I cannot accept them as brethren. We do have a right, indeed a God given obligation, to look at what others teach and compare them to the scriptures. If it is found to contradict said scriptures, we are to reject it completely. We can, and should, reject anyone who teaches anything that is not aligned with the word of God.

rosadria


Friar Thomas
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 12:00 am


VK Fox
Friar Thomas
VK Fox
iRetaliate
Sorry if this is in the wrong section, but I just needed to ask...

Seeing as how Catholicism is centered around the ideals of "Father, Son, and Spirit", and Christianity is centered around that Jesus Christ is the son of god.

Wouldn't that mean that all catholics are blaspheming sinners?

I would say yes, but for different reasons other that "Father, Son, and Holy Spirit."
Christ as both fully human and fully divine is the cornerstone of Christianity. Even the weakest secular definition of Christianity has to acknowledge the divinity of Christ. Otherwise, we have no Christianity.
I'm sorry but I strongly disagree with you. Catholics are Christians we cannot separate them. We have no right to judge catholics simply because they are catholic

If they practice, and teach things contrary to Biblical teachings, then I cannot accept them as brethren. We do have a right, indeed a God given obligation, to look at what others teach and compare them to the scriptures. If it is found to contradict said scriptures, we are to reject it completely. We can, and should, reject anyone who teaches anything that is not aligned with the word of God.
The problem is that you're rejecting everyone in that sector of OUR religion. Peter, Paul and all of the Disciples were Catholic.

I know plenty of Catholics who are God fearing individuals. Matthew 7:1 clearly says "Do not Judge."

I'm sorry but Catholics ARE Christians and we have no right to reject them.
PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 10:15 am


VK Fox
Friar Thomas
VK Fox
iRetaliate
Sorry if this is in the wrong section, but I just needed to ask...

Seeing as how Catholicism is centered around the ideals of "Father, Son, and Spirit", and Christianity is centered around that Jesus Christ is the son of god.

Wouldn't that mean that all catholics are blaspheming sinners?

I would say yes, but for different reasons other that "Father, Son, and Holy Spirit."
Christ as both fully human and fully divine is the cornerstone of Christianity. Even the weakest secular definition of Christianity has to acknowledge the divinity of Christ. Otherwise, we have no Christianity.
I'm sorry but I strongly disagree with you. Catholics are Christians we cannot separate them. We have no right to judge catholics simply because they are catholic

If they practice, and teach things contrary to Biblical teachings, then I cannot accept them as brethren. We do have a right, indeed a God given obligation, to look at what others teach and compare them to the scriptures. If it is found to contradict said scriptures, we are to reject it completely. We can, and should, reject anyone who teaches anything that is not aligned with the word of God.

I agree with you. I personally do not call "Catholics" Christians. I talked to a few Catholics and I spend sometime studying what they believe. And a lot of them, I didn't say all, but alot of their views do not line up with the Word of God.

Also, Peter, Paul, and all of the Disciples was not Catholics. Back then, there were only a few religions. And Christianity had only one branch, and that is through the Son that He is the way, the truth, and the life. The Disciples are the followers of Jesus. Back then, I am not sure if they call themselves of anything of religion, or being part of thereof. But the true Christianity is not Catholics or any other religions that we have today. It did not started with that. It started with Jesus Christ. That is what I like to call, "New Testament Christianity."

The_Lord_is_My_Shepard


Sky2235

Virtuous Seeker

PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 2:47 pm


Catholics are just a different branch of Christianity. Like Protestant, Lutheran, and such. They all believe in Jesus, God, and the Holy Spirit except when it comes to praying the Catholics pray to Mary instead of directly to Christ himself. I treat God and Christ as if they were one when I pray and I pray directly to the Lord himself.
PostPosted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 4:12 pm


I'm sticking wioth not acknowledging Catholics as Christians just like I don't acknowledge Mormons as Christians either. Just the basic belief in Christ being divine doesn't define a sect or faction as Christian. Muslims believe in Jesus, does that make them Christians? Are they going to Heaven?

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