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Posted: Thu Apr 01, 2010 9:40 pm
WARNING THIS MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS -IF YOU HAVENT WATCHED THE FILM YET BE AWARE THIS IS A TOPIC FOR THOSE WHO HAVE SEEN IT!!!!
Kay, Ive just seen Clash of the Titans, and heres a few things you need to know... For being a great movie all around 2 stars
I saw it twice and after much consideration began to hate it...
For keeping to the myth however: 1 star
They did it well but there are five things i was 'iffy' about... 1) WHERE WAS ATHENA????? i couldnt even see her on mt olympus! okay she is one of my absolute faves and she didnt even get any screen time... WHAT THE??? scream 2) that leads me to Hades and the other gods... its been said before but Hades is not a bad guy. have to admit i liked the whole red and black shadowy darkness thing that always hung around him and looked like several sets of wings... but Hades means in greek 'the unseen one' they should have had him cloaked in darkness or something... As for the other gods, they only introduced Posiedon (whole 3 brothers thing,)and Apollo, and that was because he got two lines. you could see Hera (from her crown, and sitting next to Zeus), Artemis (because her bow and arrows were hanging off the back of her chair) and Aphrodite, (because she was hardly wearing anything.) But that was all. they should have just, you know named them or something so i didnt have to strain to get a look and figure out who was who... sweatdrop 3)Io- why they decided to bring her into the myth confused me... i mean she was a cool character and all but she basicaly took over Athenas role. I guess though they were tring to portary the gods as bad guys, and having Perseus kill poor medusa who was cursed by the gods may not have really worked... but still helping heros is what Athena dose, and Io should be in egypt not in greece (well not as a human anyway..) 4)Andromedea - one of my fave heroines... doesn't have a happy ending... why? because Perseus saids "I dont wanna be king, do it yourself" and leaves to become a fisherman. Yep, they dont end up together... now heres a plot twist you didnt see coming!!!... he ends up with Io. eek 5) is how they mixed up Argos and Andromedeas home land, somewhere around Ethiopia... it took me a few minutes to realise what the heck was going on, and okay it worked but man dose it confuse the myth...
BUT all that being said there where only 2 good things about the movie... 1)Now here me out before i mention the next thing... the flying horses... thats plural people, as in more than one!!! They didnt say just one horse was Pegasus, they said they where all pegasus'... also a awesome creature was the scorpions... hush now let me speak... because following that tradition greek myths tend to have they where born form the blood of another creature. that, and they where so freaking cool!!! rofl 2)Medusa- first off they explain her origins thats a whole five stars from me on it own... second they didnt make her weak and easy to sneak up on as some people portary, she basically kicked a**. and if you look at it from the side, she kinda saves the day... if it wasnt for her head they couldnt have stopped the Karken... so yay medusa! xp
If you have noticed I have changed my mind after the second watching... It just really started to get to me... and i probably wasnt paying much attention to the movie, frist time round because i was far too excited about the prospect it may have actually been done right... *sighs* it looks like until one of us becomes a director or film maker we are going to have to put up with more screw ups like this in future... 'Game of the Gods' (i think?) is a new film set to come out soon, featuring Athena, Zeus and Posiedon; and i really hope it will live up to the hype this time...
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Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 6:50 pm
Honestly? I think it had cool special effects and I like how everyone looks good; not like Troy--the one with Brad Pitt--where everyone looks so hot showing off their chiseled muscles, this move is not like that, so I give them kudos for that. But I didn't like how Perseus' mother dies, when she didn't :/ And Perseus' myth is different than the movie; he used Medusa to free his mom from marrying that king, so... I did like how Io told Medusas' story; that's pretty cool. But Medusas' portrayal really let me down. Because when Medusa was human, she was very beautiful, yes, but when she became Medusa, she became a hideous gorgon. And in the movie, she was a sexy-looking monster >:/ I was insulted talk2hand
Will I ever see it again? Maybe...
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Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 7:57 pm
Oh I really loved this movie! I thought it was great. I can suspend my purist side about sticking to the myth source as long as the movie ends up being good, and I thought that it was. Although there were some parts that made me go: eek To be honest I wouldn't mind going to see this movie again.
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Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 8:53 pm
I never did anything to Perseus. I never even knew him. What did I do to deserve this..... *mutters to self*
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Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 9:02 pm
Actually, you did have something to do with Perseus. As the first of the Greek Heroes, he was lent your Helmet, forged by the Kyklopes, rendering the wearer invisible even to other gods.
So if anything, he owes you. And not just for that. But also for Perseus' great-grandson Herakles, many years later, when you allowed him to carry of Kerberos as long as he was unharmed.
But come on. Being a villain ain't bad. Relish the badassery of it.
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Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 9:27 pm
Akherontis Actually, you did have something to do with Perseus. As the first of the Greek Heroes, he was lent your Helmet, forged by the Kyklopes, rendering the wearer invisible even to other gods. So if anything, he owes you. And not just for that. But also for Perseus' great-grandson Herakles, many years later, when you allowed him to carry of Kerberos as long as he was unharmed. But come on. Being a villain ain't bad. Relish the badassery of it. *feels stupid* I never met him in person. I did all of this through Hermes since.... 1) I don't really like to leave the Underworld. 2) Chances are, I'd attempt offering him the Girl Scout cookies (They were around back then.) I'm trying to get rid of, and then he'd be stuck in the Underworld forever.
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Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 10:51 pm
I just saw Clash of the Titans and... I think the mythological inaccuracies pretty much murdered me dead.
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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 12:15 am
I just got back from seeing it. Two things really agitated me. One, the fact that man was rebelling against the gods and causing a great civil war. The real reason Perseus goes to get the head of Medusa is because he WANTS to be king, but some king is being lustful towards his mother, Danae. All in all, I thought it was a cool storyline. Two, Perseus + Andromeda = DID NOT HAPPEN. What was up with that?
I know I said two things that agitated me, but here is one more. They said Hades was tricked into ruling the Underworld. It's not Zeus's fault that he drew the biggest stick, and Hades drew the smallest one. It was fate. Still, Hades was amazing in the movie. Really, he scared me, especially when he stole the youth of the queen.
All in all, it was a nice birthday event for myself. The beginning with the stars was AMAZING in 3D. I squeed when I saw the metal owl from the first movie, though I was kind of disappointed when he didn't bring it along.
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Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:57 pm
Goddess of The Century I just got back from seeing it. Two things really agitated me. One, the fact that man was rebelling against the gods and causing a great civil war. The real reason Perseus goes to get the head of Medusa is because he WANTS to be king, but some king is being lustful towards his mother, Danae. All in all, I thought it was a cool storyline. Two, Perseus + Andromeda = DID NOT HAPPEN. What was up with that?
I know I said two things that agitated me, but here is one more. They said Hades was tricked into ruling the Underworld. It's not Zeus's fault that he drew the biggest stick, and Hades drew the smallest one. It was fate. Still, Hades was amazing in the movie. Really, he scared me, especially when he stole the youth of the queen.
All in all, it was a nice birthday event for myself. The beginning with the stars was AMAZING in 3D. I squeed when I saw the metal owl from the first movie, though I was kind of disappointed when he didn't bring it along.
gah! i know right? why did they decide to change they whole andromedea+perseus thing? what was wrong with that! *sighs shakes head* Hades diffenantly rocked the house though... xd but as i said before, i think they should have portaryed him differently, as the greeks may have intended... It seems there are two camps for this movie... the people who are loyal to the myth and the people who are able to move past it and enjoy the film as a film. (i am not saying either one is better, just an observation!)
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 5:00 am
Well, I just went to see it.
I feel like crying.
As both a lover of mythology and a lover of good cinema, I was horribly, horribly disappointed.
This movie blew chunks. It was loathsome. At least the original movie was charming and didn't take itself too seriously. This remake just felt like a souless, hackneyed 3d-centric experience with nothing to keep us interested in the paceless unfolding of the plot, and no real reason for the characters to be invested in their quest at any rate. All the monsters and mythical references felt like they were just arbitrarily dropped into the story (some of them from entirely different mythologies). Why did they feel the need to insert the Djinn into this? What, they needed someone to be the Chewbacca? Calibos was also a hit and miss, since he was barely necessary in the original movie and seems to have no reason for being in this one, now that Thetis is absent from the plot. I don't buy the Acrisius story, not only because it's a contradiction of myth, but because it's a contradiction within the movie itself. If Zeus needs Hades and eventually Perseus to do his dirty work, then why would he intervene personally to monsterify Acrisius with a thunderbolt? The main character's new motivation for his quest (vengeance on Hades for killing his family) was completely the wrong way to go, and Perseus himself was a wooden and one-dimensional character who could only express himself as 'whiny' or 'angry'. There was no consistency in his attitudes either. One minute he's refusing the gifts of the gods, claiming he wants to do this as a man, and the next he's wielding Zeus' lightsaber and riding (the) Pegasus, oddly enough as though riding a winged horse was an ordinary daily affair. They eliminated the romance with Andromeda and reduced her role to 'obligatory damsel in distress', meaning the audience shouldn't even care about her fate. Instead, they threw in Io for no reason. The gods looked about as ridiculous as anyone could possibly make them, especially Zeus, whose performance was such that you could actually SEE Liam Neeson spending his paycheck in his head. The set pieces and character designs were uninspired for the most part, seemingly lifted from the first movie without actually breathing any new life into them. Pegasus was made black, among other deviations, only to emphasize how supposedly more 'badass' and 'edgy' this film is compared to its predecessor. Somehow, it only manages to seem more juvenile and inelegant, with not a lick of wit, charm or even grandeur. These are the gods we're talking about, why does this feel like an episode of Everybody Loves Raymond (or Zeus, rather) where the one brother antagonizes the other? Where's the pathos, where's the gravitas? The scenes all seemed unconnected to each other, and you could've rearranged the journey of Perseus and co. without affecting the lackluster proceedings of the story at all. The stereoscopic 3D apparently was rushed and tacked on (I went to see it in 2D specifically because people warned me of the bad post-production job they did on the 3D at the last minute to cash in on Avatar buzz). The climax made no sense, and essentially comprised of one anticlimax heaped upon another. And on top of all of it they drenched this witless, heavy-handed, unnecessary theme of man against gods. Tell me again what the point of that was? It seemed to leap back and forth between the subject matter to the point where I wanted to throw popcorn at Sam Worthington's vacuous, sullen, indecisive mug. This is not a Greek Myth. This isn't even a movie. This is a bad video game simulation made of pieces stitched together from Avatar, 300, Transformers and the Idiot's Guide to Mythology.
Good grief, I felt like leaving the cinema only half an hour into it, and I've NEVER felt like that before.
Boo, hiss.
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:14 am
Well, love... I hate to tell you I told you so. But I told you so!!! That's why Ouliana and I will be ranting about the errors until at least the end of the Spring school semester.
Edit: I am part of the "loyal to the myth" group, because I think that the real story is cool enough without people attempting to make it all the more flashy by completely desecrating everything, to even the most MINIMAL detail-- THE BLUE AND YELLOW MACAW, IN THE MARKET SCENE AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MOVIE! MACAWS ARE NATIVE TO SOUTH AMERICA, THEY WOULD HAVE NOT BEEN IN GREECE DURING THAT TIME PERIOD! IIIIDIOOOTS, DID THEY THINK I WOULD NOT NOTICE?!!!!!
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:34 pm
looking at it that way... yeah i can see how it was a major dissapointment... thinking back im not sure if i was actually paying attention... sweatdrop If im really excited about a movie that tends to happen... but ill be going to see it with a family again probably so now that youve raised those issues ill really have to see. anyway, in media studies to watch a movie once and you enjoy it, watch it twice and you destory it. I did the same for avatar... and i did notice that Perseus' hair cut was very similar (the same) as the one in avatar. funny that.
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 7:48 pm
Haha, I actually didn't like his hair, either. It wasn't at all "Greek". Long, wavy. You know. At least in the first movie he looked Greek, despite being kind of... hideous rather than handsome. It's cases like this I wish people took an Apocalypto approach and did movies in the correct language of the time and made a point to really research the time period and costume and the things they had/didn't have.
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:07 pm
That would have been seriously cool! especial after i learn anicent greek, cause then i wouldnt need the subtitles! 4laugh hmmm... but that being said we're talking about the bronze age and while we know that is was close to the ancient greek we know, we still dont know excatly it sounded like or the whole vocaburaly... so it would still be wrong in the classical ancient greek... sweatdrop
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Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:09 pm
That's true, very true! BUT, it's still closer to being accurate than in English, right? Especially since in the 1981 version of the film, everyone had an English accent for some reason. XD
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