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 Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 1:07 pm
http://www.sophos.com/blogs/gc/g/2009/11/30/man-arrested-robbing-runescape-virtual-characters/
I'm guessing that hacking on Gaia wouldn't be so prevalent if there were an enforcible law against it here in the U.S., but what do you think? Is that level of policeing too "Big Brother" for you? If so, does Gaia's ToS regarding hacking, phishing, and password theft need strengthening? Does it's item retrieval service need work? On the other hand, if game data theft became a punishable crime with more ironclad consequences for the perpetrator and the possibility of more immediate reparations to the victim, would you be for it?
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 8:38 pm
if you be my star...
hot damn, that's completely batshit.
I guess it makes sense, though, with things like gaia cash becoming more and more important in these games. In that sense, it is theft, because you are taking actual money from a person.
...I'll be your sky.
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:32 pm
^ Point.
I don't know... hacking on Gaia seems like kind of a gateway computer crime to me. If you're willing to hack or phish for something that doesn't really matter in the end, wouldn't that make you more likely to actually hack for profit?
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:16 pm
Arresting people for hacking into game accounts is not a new thing. In fact, I heard on the radio, a few months ago, that some guys got arrested for hacking and stealing World of Warcraft accounts. It's a form of theft, which of course, is illegal.
I think the same applies for any site where people pay real money for services, really. Gaia included. People just tend to not make such a big deal of it here, however, since it's mainly a forum site.
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:15 am
*gasp*
Actual real-life consequences for online actions?
Sounds good to me. Do the crime, do the time. There's no reason anyone should engage in that kind of behavior, and there should be consequences for it, same as any other form of theft.
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Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 3:25 pm
The Iron Magus *gasp* Actual real-life consequences for online actions? Sounds good to me. Do the crime, do the time. There's no reason anyone should engage in that kind of behavior, and there should be consequences for it, same as any other form of theft. Agree completely. Add in a few explinatorys and rants about certain people I know and you've got my response.
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:10 am
Camron Flamheart Arresting people for hacking into game accounts is not a new thing. In fact, I heard on the radio, a few months ago, that some guys got arrested for hacking and stealing World of Warcraft accounts. It's a form of theft, which of course, is illegal. I think the same applies for any site where people pay real money for services, really. Gaia included. People just tend to not make such a big deal of it here, however, since it's mainly a forum site. It also helps that Blizzard is a massive company that actively pursues legal action against account theft. The only problem I see is people getting arrested when they didn't really do anything wrong (such as when a hacker bounces off their router to hide his own location), but the same thing happens in murder cases too.
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:25 pm
In my opinion, some judgment should go into account when dealing with hacking.
After all, with Gaia cash these days people are paying real money, thus it effects reality. However, if an account has no financial history I don't believe the feds should get involved. It's altogether not important enough to get involved with when nothing was lost in the 1st place.
It's like deleting a save file for a game accidentally. It sucks, but it's not like you can't reach that point again.
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:25 pm
elvellon In my opinion, some judgment should go into account when dealing with hacking. After all, with Gaia cash these days people are paying real money, thus it effects reality. However, if an account has no financial history I don't believe the feds should get involved. It's altogether not important enough to get involved with when nothing was lost in the 1st place. It's like deleting a save file for a game accidentally. It sucks, but it's not like you can't reach that point again. The simple fact that people are finding ways to hack should be enough to get law involved. Even if it's just getting into a free account on something. If people know ways to hack, have tested it plenty of times, and are sure it will work, they'll try it on more complicated things. After a while, variations of it would spread around to experienced hackers, who would start developing it to steal more information than before. Soon, accounts that have a history of using real-life cash would be getting hacked. It would only be down hill from there.
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 4:31 pm
The problem I have with what you've said is this: most--if not all--of what we see isn't 'hacking' (hackers aren't bad, crackers and scammers are), it's scamming and the result of not being careful with your account info.
Yes, I agree it's bad; however, no 'hacking' is involved, just scamming and stupid people.
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 7:57 am
Because throwing some kid who is admittedly a jerk and a cheat into jail is a great way of assuring they won't ever commit a crime again. And they definitely won't become hardened criminals in an environment where they are completely surrounded by and defenseless from other hardened criminals. Nope, no sir, not at all.
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Posted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 7:51 am
Camron Flamheart elvellon In my opinion, some judgment should go into account when dealing with hacking. After all, with Gaia cash these days people are paying real money, thus it effects reality. However, if an account has no financial history I don't believe the feds should get involved. It's altogether not important enough to get involved with when nothing was lost in the 1st place. It's like deleting a save file for a game accidentally. It sucks, but it's not like you can't reach that point again. The simple fact that people are finding ways to hack should be enough to get law involved. Even if it's just getting into a free account on something. If people know ways to hack, have tested it plenty of times, and are sure it will work, they'll try it on more complicated things. After a while, variations of it would spread around to experienced hackers, who would start developing it to steal more information than before. Soon, accounts that have a history of using real-life cash would be getting hacked. It would only be down hill from there. However, before long it should be noticed and rectified by whatever security company Gaia uses before it causes any serious harm. Once the exploit itself is fixed the hack and its variations simply will not work.
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