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 Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 11:48 pm
Back to main contest.My personal project is to pursue learning the Kunji-in. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuji-in I hadn't before thought that perhaps there -was- an elaborate sequence of hand signs that meant very much... but according to the brief source I got when I was desperate to figure out a project, I read something that mentioned it and thought "oooooOOOOH?" I hope to accomplish with this a result that... uh... perhaps I'll be able to better focus or to "control" something. I'll attempt that after I -learn- to do it in the first place, and link it to my octatholon that I had joked about earlier, to apply it to goals I currently have!! So, I guess I just update this with progress then as I make it. sweatdrop
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 3:34 am
Known as "mudra" in Sanskrit and Indian, sometimes known a "Inzo" in Japan too. Seems to me that their main role is actually identifying dieties; e.g the Tenborin-in or Dharmachakra mudra associated most with Shaka Nyorai aka. the Gautama Buddha.
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 7:03 pm
Blind Guardian the 2nd Known as "mudra" in Sanskrit and Indian, sometimes known a "Inzo" in Japan too. Seems to me that their main role is actually identifying dieties; e.g the Tenborin-in or Dharmachakra mudra associated most with Shaka Nyorai aka. the Gautama Buddha. My knowledge of the kuji-in comes from the ninja tradition. I don't claim to have more than a cursory knowledge of the system, but it seems that in ninjutsu they are used as meditative aids or focus points for channeling a specific "effect". This might be a way of reaching altered states of consciousness, or it might relate to the mind-body connection and manipulation of it. The actual "nine cuts" with the tenth, in a grid pattern, seems to be one of those catch-all empowering things for whatever purpose you might have. You come across the phrase "ninja sorcery" when looking for things like this. Having read a few books by Stephen K. Hayes, the father of American Ninjutsu and student of Grandmaster Masaaki Hatsumi, it appears that hand signs aren't just a product of Naruto. These books of course don't elaborate on the specific hand signs or mudras, but there are a great many of them, a lot more than nine. I think in the Tibetan tradition (which the ninjutsu variety pulls from) there are 81 or more different mudras. I hope this helps in some way.
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Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:55 pm
Mmm... I appreciate input and suggestions, definitely. 3nodding
As of now... I have a -basic- idea of how to get the signs done with my hands... I guess I tried it too hard.
Either through actual execution of the hand signs in a struggled order, or through a -thinking- of doing so, I -did- have a kind of calm feeling as I did it over... nothing in particular.
In other words, so far it feels quite refreshing, and the feeling comes each time I've just run through what I believe is the right set of signs.
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 4:22 am
Obscurus Blind Guardian the 2nd Known as "mudra" in Sanskrit and Indian, sometimes known a "Inzo" in Japan too. Seems to me that their main role is actually identifying dieties; e.g the Tenborin-in or Dharmachakra mudra associated most with Shaka Nyorai aka. the Gautama Buddha. My knowledge of the kuji-in comes from the ninja tradition. I don't claim to have more than a cursory knowledge of the system, but it seems that in ninjutsu they are used as meditative aids or focus points for channeling a specific "effect". This might be a way of reaching altered states of consciousness, or it might relate to the mind-body connection and manipulation of it. The actual "nine cuts" with the tenth, in a grid pattern, seems to be one of those catch-all empowering things for whatever purpose you might have. You come across the phrase "ninja sorcery" when looking for things like this. Having read a few books by Stephen K. Hayes, the father of American Ninjutsu and student of Grandmaster Masaaki Hatsumi, it appears that hand signs aren't just a product of Naruto. These books of course don't elaborate on the specific hand signs or mudras, but there are a great many of them, a lot more than nine. I think in the Tibetan tradition (which the ninjutsu variety pulls from) there are 81 or more different mudras. I hope this helps in some way. They can be found as meditative aids in India long before any presence of ninja in Japan. However, that doesn't mean that symbolism attached to it by ninjas is any less meaningful. Yet I feel that looking at the Indian background of hand mudras would be incredibly useful.
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Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:12 pm
Blind Guardian the 2nd Obscurus Blind Guardian the 2nd Known as "mudra" in Sanskrit and Indian, sometimes known a "Inzo" in Japan too. Seems to me that their main role is actually identifying dieties; e.g the Tenborin-in or Dharmachakra mudra associated most with Shaka Nyorai aka. the Gautama Buddha. My knowledge of the kuji-in comes from the ninja tradition. I don't claim to have more than a cursory knowledge of the system, but it seems that in ninjutsu they are used as meditative aids or focus points for channeling a specific "effect". This might be a way of reaching altered states of consciousness, or it might relate to the mind-body connection and manipulation of it. The actual "nine cuts" with the tenth, in a grid pattern, seems to be one of those catch-all empowering things for whatever purpose you might have. You come across the phrase "ninja sorcery" when looking for things like this. Having read a few books by Stephen K. Hayes, the father of American Ninjutsu and student of Grandmaster Masaaki Hatsumi, it appears that hand signs aren't just a product of Naruto. These books of course don't elaborate on the specific hand signs or mudras, but there are a great many of them, a lot more than nine. I think in the Tibetan tradition (which the ninjutsu variety pulls from) there are 81 or more different mudras. I hope this helps in some way. They can be found as meditative aids in India long before any presence of ninja in Japan. However, that doesn't mean that symbolism attached to it by ninjas is any less meaningful. Yet I feel that looking at the Indian background of hand mudras would be incredibly useful.I agree. The Tibetan tradition that the ninja kuji-in derive from came from India in the first place, as did all things Buddhist.
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Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 4:36 pm
Well, as you've all suggested, I should probably expand the research I've done on this project... as I don't know exactly -what- progress I've made other than being able to do these nine hand signs in succession with nearly no flaws. I do still get trouble with it.
I'm also not sure where to go with it.
On an unrelated note while wearing my tail at work, I felt what was like someone give it a quick tug. I looked behind me since I knew someone at work that -would- have done that... but as I looked about I realized I was the only one there in the vicinity.
It's happened once before, when first wearing it... although I was in the company of friends at that time. The one person that I did think did it only claimed to be thinking about me wearing it, and was also out of reach. Everyone else present was in sight in front of me...
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Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 6:50 pm
In my nature of "project hopping" I've gone to listening to hypnosis files again.
One in particular that seemed to work but not as intended has me dreaming of the subject... but as of yet I haven't had what the intended effect is...
I found another file to listen to of howling and wind in what sounds like a rainstorm. It's nice to listen to when going to sleep amazingly. (Must come from living in a house with four other people constantly bumping about. sweatdrop )
I am also doing a few Tarot readings on the side... and likewise.
Forgive me for that but it's just how it happens to work out. sweatdrop
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Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:08 am
You could say in the race for the gold, I've tripped and face planted somewhere like -now-.
I've been willing to try to pursue this particular set of hand signs of this particular order. It was somewhat on a whim... it fit the bill for something I hadn't done, and it seemed interesting.
I feel I've learned something... you see, at work I didn't do something I should have, and it resulted in someone being hurt, and yet that person (whoever it might be) didn't press charges.
I really wish I could have met them to apologize. It's this simple fact that makes me realize that perhaps I didn't pay enough attention, let things slip. In thinking this I kind of realized regarding the "nine cuts" I was being willy nilly with it. Nothing important.
In doing nothing important with it I then began to wonder if this was some sort of weird way of karma telling me to stop fooling around for at least enough to pay attention to things in a true sense.
So... I pick myself up... and go off to join the cheering crowd, hoping the race going on for these next four days will perhaps yield a more sought for success than my own realization, although I believe I gladly accept this consolation prize... heart
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