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Just like what took place (and is currently still on-going) with Garchomp, the debate on Smogon's decision to move Latias from Ubers to OU is also under debate.

Just like last time, I'm keeping all the information on what has already been debated in the Crew section hidden as a means to not put any sway (in one direction or the other) in any of your opinions. If you wish to chime in, please post down an actual debate worthy post and keep all flaming to a minimum. I shall be keeping track of all the Pros and Cons gathered from this thread.

Keep in mind, no matter what the end result is for this week-long poll, the Crew ultimately will have the final say on Latias' fate, so if you want it banned/saved, make your debate as compelling as possible.

I'm going to have to say OU. She is to easily defeated in most cases and it is harder to set anything up like Cressilia(right spelling there?) The various weaknesses to multiple , with 5 weaknesses 6 resistances and 1 immunity, types give an easier counter than others. Although she can put up a fight, Latias can be taken down quick and easy if needed.

I agree,this is really underwhelming.

In my opinion, Latias should have never been taken out of Ubers. I voted OU, yes, but I will later list my reasons as to why it can also fit into OU.

Anyways, back onto topic as to why I think Latias should remain as an Uber Pokemon.

1. Latias is very hard to take down. Latias has a max speed of 350 which not many Pokemon can outspeed. The Pokemon that do outspeed or tie in speed with Latias are namely special oriented Pokemon. These Pokemon are really, in my opinion, no match for the likes of Latias. Latias has an above average special defense stat, not to mention, can be boosted by the use of Calm Mind.

2. Latias has a rather large selection of attacks. One player can turn Latias into a status inducer, while others will turn it into a special sweeper. Now some will say, "who cares? we've seen plenty of Pokemon that do these tasks." Well, how many Pokemon have you seen do this with a speed stat of 350? :/ most players will try their best to prevent being paralyzed, or prevent screen setups with the use of Taunt.

3. The use of Recover alone pisses people off. The game would become a stall war.

Possible OU counters: CB Mamoswine, Scarf Tyranitar, SD Weavile, Scizor

I don't like the looks of that list, keep Latias in Ubers. I don't like building teams that REQUIRE you to have one of these select Pokemon in hopes of taking down ONE Pokemon. As KuraiKitty said in the Garchomp thread, it kills originality.

Now, the argument for keeping Latias in OU.

1. Fragile Defense stat (is easily taken down by many physical oriented attacks)

2. Easily walled by Blissey

That's about all I can think of :/

In conclusion, throw Latias into Ubers. I retract my OU vote.

Well, clearly you haven't faced a competitive Blissey :p

lol yeah I could see that.Compared to the Garchomp debate, people aren't really showing much enthusiasm to argue about whether Latias should be Uber or OU.Poor Latias,she doesn't get as much attention as Garchomp.

I would have to say what I've been saying for a while. There should be diffrent tiers for singles and doubles, or at least a new tier type, like DB-OU, or DB-UBER.

In double battles would say Latias is an Uber, because of the extra support she could get from the other poke. I forget the moves nae at the moment but it's swagger, but for Sp.ATK rather than just ATK. Have the partnered poke use that ok the "refreshing" or appropriate berried latias, and you have a really fast max out attack sweeper, that can heal it self! Other wise in singles it's just OU.

Another example is Cherrim, completely suck by itself, but combine it with ANY SP.ATK-er and have it be sunny then you have a power house in doubles. Or better yet Cherrim that know the SP.ATK swagger on the latias and it's sunny. Wow....that's rape.

P.S. I also declare RAPE a new tier.

I must concur with this opinion. Hence why I believe why it was one of the reasons that attributed to the fall in fanbase during the prime of the third generation fo pokemon.