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Femmunition

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:50 pm


Experience is a major component of improvement. Here are some things that you as a mc can work on. This is an open forum, feel free to ask anything, to read important notes, add your own input (disagree with what's being said or forever hold your peace) and practice in this announcement or by PMs.

Have one on one or battle royale pratice battles with our more experienced battlers, get constructive critique and get explanations for rules, vocabulary and terms that might be useful. They are ready and willing to critique and help you to get better battle-wise or otherwise, all you have to do is ask in this announcement and they will appear like magic (atleast I hope so). It's up to you to grab this opportunity and make the most of it.

This isn’t to change anyone’s style but to develop your own style while knowing what draws in the crowd. Also be aware that if it's evident you're only wasting another person's time, they can choose not to hold practice battles with you.


Originally written by Terrence Urameshi, edited by Femmunition to be shorter. xD

Below are the available battlers willing to battle, answer questions and give you critique.

Available Battlers:
Femmunition

[Put username here and edit and if you're a member wanting to be put on the list, just contact the local RH mods.]

Main Rapper's Haven Vocabulary:
Verse- Text, what you type.
Bars-1 Bar = 2 lines of verse.
Callout- Someone is inviting you to battle against them
Dickriding- Voting for someone because you like them as a person better and giving excessive credit when it isn't warranted
Feeding- Taking another person's verse and turning it on them
Recyling- Using past verses in a battle
Biting- Using another person's verse in a battle
Ghost Writing- Having another person write for you <********> Unnecessary irrelevant discussion/ arguing'
K.O- Knock out, 3 to 0 in votes
T.K.O- 4 to 1 in votes.

House Rules- No biting, no feeding, no dickriding, no recycleling, no ghost writing.

*Caugh* The list below may be biased. *Caugh*
Lucky Lucifer - A Mother ******** Hustler. YouBetterAskSomebody
Shenco- The prodigy
Durrty adj.- southern in quality and style
Tactix- The kid who battles once a blue moon
Phoenix- i like ham.
bloo-...most likely the only beaner here
GOAT- Greatest of all-time
BRA- Best rapper alive

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:30 pm


Battle Verses 101


The following is a good knowledge to know about the basics of writing battle verses. Anything that is frowned upon as a battler will have the words..
”Everyone/Most will frown on you.” underneath it. Oh and just because someone frowns on you doesn't mean you can't improve, keep trying, eveyone has potential with practice. =)

Biting- Biting is the use of another mc's lyrics, punches, and/or verses in a deliberate attempt to pass them off as your own. Not only is it not creative and disrespectful to the original mc, but it places a permanent scar on your reputation that rarely, if ever, goes away.

Everyone will frown on you.

Recycling- Recycling is basically biting yourself. There isn't a difference between biting someone else and biting yourself and also shows a lack of originality and creativity.
Everyone will frown on you.

Feeding/Counterpunching- The use of an opponents bars against them, whether trying to discredit them, or fuel your own. More of a touchy topic, and the limits on it are usually different depending on the challenger. In the case of multi-round battles, its a bit more acceptable. However, this generally gives one battler an unfair advantage over the other, so while it may vary on whether it is or isn't allowed. Also shows a lack of originality.
Most people will frown on you.

Example of feeding:
Lucky Lucifer

But after this beat down you can consider yourself ******** certainly
Not including your other weird hermaphro love affairs
For those who don't know - imagine Eminem and Bruno, with more hair.
Errianna


I'm ugly, I look like em and bruno and you still wanna ******** about low standards thats basically giving up

Mc #2 basically created their bar by using mc #1's bar and adding their personal twist to it.

The above 3 acts are generally not allowed anywhere you may battle, and have thus earned the name, "House Rules".

Concept Recycling- Concept recycling is basically putting a new twist on something thats been said before. This is usually done subconsciously. If done effectively enough, and you know that you wrote it with your personal style as a part of it, you shouldn't be too paranoid over possibly biting someone.

Dickriding- Giving excessive credit to another mc, typically when not warranted to do so, or when obvious that few others feel that way. Basically, biasedness.

Everyone will frown on you.

Emoting- Emoting occurs when in a verse, the mc claims that he will do something to the opposing mc, usually involving some kind of violence or humiliation.
jceaz

I'd leave you toothless hear me? Real Talk: if you was near me
You catch a MAC* to the head like the basis of newtons theory

Only the best and brightest are capable of pulling this off with any success, as it takes good creativity to make them of a high quality. Otherwise it just sounds like you're making empty threats. Either way, over-excessive use of emoting should be avoided.

Footnotes/Context Clues- This refers to further explanation of your punchlines. Few things scare an mc more than the possibility of someone not understanding their punches, and voting against them because of it. To try and prevent this, you will often see people bold or underline specific parts of their bars for emphasis in comprehending the punch.
Kinetic-Kidd

I'm only at this for part time, but enough for ya tactless, subpar rhymes
you're no heavyweight, you dominate in a place ruled by bitches, like Ecclesiastic Apartheid!

In the most extreme cases, you see the battler leave an asterisk * next to a certain word, where at they end they give a further explanation, or the person actually incorporates a link into the bar to give an example. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this, but when done too much, it annoys voters when they have to read a trivial footnote for everything that they're assumed to not know about. As stated by several people before, if anything requires excessive explanation, then the punch just isn't working.

Femmunition


Femmunition

PostPosted: Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:45 pm




These are the basics of any good battle verse. The most important step to being a good battlist and writing a good verse is knowing what the crowd looks for when they vote.

Punches- The most important of any battle. Without punches, it hasn't even earned to the dignity to be called a battle verse. Better punchlines equal a win 100% of the time, so it’s in your best interest to learn how to write good ones. A punch is a diss of your opponent. A punch humiliates, embarrasses, demeans, emasculates, discredits, hurts (emotionally) your opponent. Great punches do any or all of the above or the punch can be too weak to put a dent in your opponent.

Punchlines are indeed everything, but if all you're doing is dissing, it might as well be a fight or some kind of argument. Point is, while punches are extremely important, they can only take you so far. Alone, they are just raw disses that can do damage but won't help you in a battle against someone who can beat the s**t of you with punchlines + the following categories.

Personals- The most powerful punchlines that exist. If you're just throwing out a bunch of punches, while they may be good, they're blind disses that could be directed at anyone. If you want a great punch, then as the name suggests, you have to make it personal. This can be as simple as mentioning the mc's name in the bar, but the best and most hard-hitting personals integrate a personal fact or characteristic about the emcee that no one else has. This alone can increase the impact of any punch tenfold.


Emcee Ghost
ghost got minuture rockets packed in-his-jacket, ready to launch, ready to squish-this-maggot
i hold more wins against him than the number of times Realest been called b***h-and-f*****t(KO)

Using a rather common moniker for this mc, Ghost was able to put together a devastating personal.

Multisyllabic Rhyming (Multies)- Multies are basically bars that have more than 1 syllable that rhymes at the end. Grip, strip, and slip rhyme, but they're not multies. They're whats called String Words. Here's an example of a multi:
Terrence Urameshi

take your pride,-and-Quick! I honestly reconcile-you-quit!!
and admit that you'll never be vile-or-sick
cuz all these KA Projectiles'll-miss
and runnin popular websites the only thing that'll gain ya style-some-HITS!!/12



Multies aren't a necessity to win a battle, they're more like a product of finesse. Its not impossible to make a good verse using just string words, but multies say quite a lot about your level of talent and experience, and if used with a good punch, it sounds that much more devastating when said aloud, like most voters do.

Vocabulary- Knowing big words doesn't mean you'll win batttles, but when you have a vast vocabulary, it can add an extra dimension to your punches by making twists and turns on your verses.

Creativity- This is what practically defines your uniqueness as an mc, because your creativity reflects your thought process when writing, your intelligence, and your experience as a battlist. This is also the hardest thing to explain. You can't teach someone how to be creative. I can give a few examples though however. Creativity is in essence, turning the ordinary into the extraordinary, creating great punches from usually basic ideas. Here's a few examples of punches that were made simply by using everyday common phrases and expressions:

Daddy Kwick v2.0
n' if you're a cut above the rest, it's cuz my knife is in ya neck...

Terrence Urameshi

Eska's all about Pussies and Queers.....at least he minds his P's and Q's!!!
Emcee Ghost
these two couldn't walk the WOK! Takin Asians-Students-to-School!!


Nameplay- An extended Personal, nameplay is using a person's name, or definition of their name, to create a punch. This tend to get really amusing when done by skilled battlers.
Tec-Knowledge

He ain't got proper battle edicate, "TEC WINS" You said it b***h
He ain't got the balls to c** to C-T like CON-NEC-TI-CUT (kinetic-kidd).

If possible to use nameplay extensively without repeating concepts or sounding similar, it's strongly advised to do so.

Wordplay/Puns/Double Entendres- The hardest to execute with any success. This is using the spelling and/or meaning of a word or phrase in a way that utilizes another additional meaning of the phrase at the same time.

Wordplay/Puns/Double Entendres Example:

Emcee Ghost
kid ya heads done with, after I EN-GUAGE you with my Ring Hammer like marryin a weaponsmith
unable to Recognize The Radius Of His Diseased Cousins, cuz SICK aint something he's Fam-Ill-Your-Width


Terrence Urameshi

I'll smite-this-f**, I can only pray God'll make him sick to me
cuz he always preferred d**k, never likin a**('like' and 'as') so...I got him on the Similies... cool /1


The last and one of the more obvious of these categories is flow.

Flow- The overall fluidity and smoothness of the verse when read. It annoys people to read verses when the lines are extremely long, or run-on sentences.

As with everything else, there are devices that improve flow and make them easier on the reader. The 1st is multies, which we already discussed.

Rhyme Scheme- Basically a rhyming pattern. If consistent enough, makes it a lot easier for the reader to catch your flow, and verse develops a rhythm. The aforementioned example had this rhyme scheme:
.....A.............B
.....A.............B

You can see the inner rhyme. Here are some others:
Syllvurr

Trust me, I ain't a pacifist, teez is an a**l masochist
who sounds like a patch of cabbage kids block his nasal passages


same as the one above. ......A.......B/........A.......B
jceaz

Win a battle win Ceaz? Nah, heres a more radical-thesis
imagine your p***s...in a girls vaginal region eek

Why can't he get a girl? What's the Actuall reason?
He's just scared that the faggots will attack him for treason

............A/A.............A, then ..............A/.................A
Inner rhyme still present in the 1st one, and consistent flow.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:34 am


I skimmed, but looks good to me. smile

Jaiden Stryker
Vice Captain


Samurai Rhythm

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:45 am


Remove everything in that first post that references me you pieces of s**t.

I already KO'd the ******** out of both of you one after another. Don't make me rub more mud on your ******** faces. Now get it done.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:03 pm


You were just so subtle with your editing lmao. A bit bothered by some of the dumbing down, but oh well, the original one is always available in the Dome. And don't think I've forgotten about my sign. cool

Terrence Urameshi


Femmunition

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 6:22 pm


Samurai Rhythm
Remove everything in that first post that references me you pieces of s**t.

I already KO'd the ******** out of both of you one after another. Don't make me rub more mud on your ******** faces. Now get it done.
I don't control what Chaos writes. ^.^

Beating the both of us makes you less of a hypocrite who can't take it when someone else pokes fun at you yet you readily poke fun at others and then complains about it. neutral

Any further arguements in this announcement will be deleted, if you want to defend yourself or continue argueing, you can do it in your MODS: DELETE TOPIC as this is for battlers who want practice, answers to questions and etc..
PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 6:33 pm


Femmunition
Samurai Rhythm
Remove everything in that first post that references me you pieces of s**t.

I already KO'd the ******** out of both of you one after another. Don't make me rub more mud on your ******** faces. Now get it done.
I don't control what Chaos writes. ^.^

Beating the both of us makes you less of a hypocrite who can't take it when someone else pokes fun at you yet you readily poke fun at others and then complains about it. neutral

Any further arguements in this announcement will be deleted, if you want to defend yourself or continue argueing, you can do it in your MODS: DELETE TOPIC as this is for battlers who want practice, answers to questions and etc..
******** you, stupid a** b***h. You're just pissed off because you got knocked the ******** out and you're garbage at writing rhymes.

Delete my ******** name off of that. ******** Chaos because he's a p***y himself hiding in his mom's basement. I didn't poke fun at anyone, all I did was knock you the ******** out. So stop being a b***h about it and get rid of that s**t. You can do it, you just don't want to because you're a dumb c**t.

Samurai Rhythm


Femmunition

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 6:42 pm


Samurai Rhythm
Femmunition
Samurai Rhythm
Remove everything in that first post that references me you pieces of s**t.

I already KO'd the ******** out of both of you one after another. Don't make me rub more mud on your ******** faces. Now get it done.
I don't control what Chaos writes. ^.^

Beating the both of us makes you less of a hypocrite who can't take it when someone else pokes fun at you yet you readily poke fun at others and then complains about it. neutral

Any further arguements in this announcement will be deleted, if you want to defend yourself or continue argueing, you can do it in your MODS: DELETE TOPIC as this is for battlers who want practice, answers to questions and etc..
******** you, stupid a** b***h. You're just pissed off because you got knocked the ******** out and you're garbage at writing rhymes.

Delete my ******** name off of that. ******** Chaos because he's a p***y himself hiding in his mom's basement. I didn't poke fun at anyone, all I did was knock you the ******** out. So stop being a b***h about it and get rid of that s**t. You can do it, you just don't want to because you're a dumb c**t.
Your maturity astounds me. xD
PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 6:44 pm


I'm glad you're entertained to be a ******** loser.

Now delete it. Click edit, take that s**t out, call it a day. It's a sure fire way for you to slightly be less of a stupid b***h.

Samurai Rhythm


Femmunition

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 6:47 pm


Samurai Rhythm
I'm glad you're entertained to be a ******** loser.

Now delete it. Click edit, take that s**t out, call it a day. It's a sure fire way for you to slightly be less of a stupid b***h.
If you want respect, then you'll give it to others, that goes for everyone, not just you.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 6:49 pm


You get 0 respect b***h. You're not only retarded and talk s**t, but you get KO'd the ******** out too. lol

b***h im out. peace

Samurai Rhythm


Femmunition

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 6:52 pm


Samurai Rhythm
You get 0 respect b***h. You're not only retarded and talk s**t, but you get KO'd the ******** out too. lol

b***h im out. peace
Then you get no respect.. b***h. I moved the thread out in the open to address everyone not just you and I tried getting along with you but you take everything personally, but think what you want lol.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:19 pm


Lol Chaos wrote that? This comes as less of a shock now. xd


Oh yeah, and one of your definitions is wrong.

Quote:


You should get on that one too. cool

Terrence Urameshi

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