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PhantomPhoenix0

PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:29 pm


Me and my friends at lunch were talking about this idea, and for some reason we all think it would be a good idea if run properly. By run properly, we think it should have a licence to legally practice, and monitored health, to cut down on the rick of STDs. One thing we thought of, is that some women will have their husbands die, be left in debt, have kids to raise, but they cant put money on the table. If they are willing to make that sacrifice to earn some money so their family doesnt end up on the streets, why should we forbid them from it? Apparently it does wonders for the economy in some European areas (AMSTERDAM!!!), and personally, I think it would do an amazing job of stimulating the economy (hehe, stimulating xd )
PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:52 pm


Hmm...well it could bring the economy back to balence...but then you would have the conservatists that would say that its selling sex and that is WRONG! xd

But seriously, from my standpoint, legalized prostituion would be god in theory, as long as the pimps didnt get involved. Of course,if they did, then it would become something of a business, and the product would always be hot...but I don't know...they would need some sort of poolicy againest those dudes that would beat the women during the sexin'.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 5:26 pm


Koiyuki
but then you would have the conservatists that would say that its selling sex and that is WRONG!

Ok, they say everything is wrong. And that doesnt mean that they need to actually buy sex as it is. Like I said before, you hear in stories and movies about women who can only support their family by selling their body. Why should they get ticketed or arrested if they are sacrificing themselves so their children can eat another night?
PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 11:13 pm


Koiyuki
Hmm...well it could bring the economy back to balence...but then you would have the conservatists that would say that its selling sex and that is WRONG! xd


More like "Damn I'm an ugly white male, so I can't get any money for sex!!!" Seriously, guys don't like the idea of a woman getting money for something that a man can't get just as easily or easier.

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But seriously, from my standpoint, legalized prostituion would be god in theory, as long as the pimps didnt get involved. Of course,if they did, then it would become something of a business, and the product would always be hot...but I don't know...they would need some sort of poolicy againest those dudes that would beat the women during the sexin'.


Umm...

Well, from what I've read and learned about prostitution, most of them are not the "sexy" babes you think they are. Many are older, and in order to get a really "high class" one, you have to fork over serious cash. Anyone who is just "small time" is usually not really that sexy at all; just some regular woman who is desperate enough to sell her body on the street.

There are tons of women who sell their bodies, though, who are not legally recognised as prostitutes.

Yes, my friends, I'm talking about women who marry men for money/stability/etc.
They, like other desperate women, will give up their status, their money, and their freedom to become basically what a prostitute is; sex in exchange for economic goods (money).

Prostitution, should be legal, but it should be legal and completely run by women. Men should have no place in the whoring business except for those in the male prostitution business (and they would have separate places). Unlike any other place, I believe that a whorehouse or a brothel should be completely run by women, and protected by the law like any other establishment. If someone ******** without paying, they get Myra the Bosom Bouncer to straighten him out. If someone hurts his whore, he must pay insurance on the damaged goods.

Seriously, this would work well, but let's stop glamorizing this profession. It's meat smacking, v****a access for a price. Nothing more, nothing less.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 11:35 pm


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Koiyuki
Hmm...well it could bring the economy back to balence...but then you would have the conservatists that would say that its selling sex and that is WRONG! xd


More like "Damn I'm an ugly white male, so I can't get any money for sex!!!" Seriously, guys don't like the idea of a woman getting money for something that a man can't get just as easily or easier.

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But seriously, from my standpoint, legalized prostituion would be god in theory, as long as the pimps didnt get involved. Of course,if they did, then it would become something of a business, and the product would always be hot...but I don't know...they would need some sort of poolicy againest those dudes that would beat the women during the sexin'.


Umm...

Well, from what I've read and learned about prostitution, most of them are not the "sexy" babes you think they are. Many are older, and in order to get a really "high class" one, you have to fork over serious cash. Anyone who is just "small time" is usually not really that sexy at all; just some regular woman who is desperate enough to sell her body on the street.

There are tons of women who sell their bodies, though, who are not legally recognised as prostitutes.

Yes, my friends, I'm talking about women who marry men for money/stability/etc.
They, like other desperate women, will give up their status, their money, and their freedom to become basically what a prostitute is; sex in exchange for economic goods (money).

Prostitution, should be legal, but it should be legal and completely run by women. Men should have no place in the whoring business except for those in the male prostitution business (and they would have separate places). Unlike any other place, I believe that a whorehouse or a brothel should be completely run by women, and protected by the law like any other establishment. If someone ******** without paying, they get Myra the Bosom Bouncer to straighten him out. If someone hurts his whore, he must pay insurance on the damaged goods.

Seriously, this would work well, but let's stop glamorizing this profession. It's meat smacking, v****a access for a price. Nothing more, nothing less.


I gotta say I agree with the lady, here, folks. But I feel that it could be run by a man occasionally. Of course, it couldn't be the typical man, but nonetheless.

Secondly, I feel that if we did bring prostitution to a legit industry, the puritanical nature of america would just get more harsh. I mean, hell, it's her body. Or his. It's not our place to choose for them or condemn them.

It's enough to piss off the Pope.
PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 2:22 am


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Koiyuki
Hmm...well it could bring the economy back to balence...but then you would have the conservatists that would say that its selling sex and that is WRONG! xd


More like "Damn I'm an ugly white male, so I can't get any money for sex!!!" Seriously, guys don't like the idea of a woman getting money for something that a man can't get just as easily or easier.

Quote:
But seriously, from my standpoint, legalized prostituion would be god in theory, as long as the pimps didnt get involved. Of course,if they did, then it would become something of a business, and the product would always be hot...but I don't know...they would need some sort of poolicy againest those dudes that would beat the women during the sexin'.


Umm...

Well, from what I've read and learned about prostitution, most of them are not the "sexy" babes you think they are. Many are older, and in order to get a really "high class" one, you have to fork over serious cash. Anyone who is just "small time" is usually not really that sexy at all; just some regular woman who is desperate enough to sell her body on the street.

There are tons of women who sell their bodies, though, who are not legally recognised as prostitutes.

Yes, my friends, I'm talking about women who marry men for money/stability/etc.
They, like other desperate women, will give up their status, their money, and their freedom to become basically what a prostitute is; sex in exchange for economic goods (money).

Prostitution, should be legal, but it should be legal and completely run by women. Men should have no place in the whoring business except for those in the male prostitution business (and they would have separate places). Unlike any other place, I believe that a whorehouse or a brothel should be completely run by women, and protected by the law like any other establishment. If someone ******** without paying, they get Myra the Bosom Bouncer to straighten him out. If someone hurts his whore, he must pay insurance on the damaged goods.

Seriously, this would work well, but let's stop glamorizing this profession. It's meat smacking, v****a access for a price. Nothing more, nothing less.


*nods*

Of course I was talking about the sex part of the equation, not the product being sold. And its a well documented fact that America *despite being the country that invented Girls Gone Wild* is one of the most prudish countries in the world. Like she said, if it were to be legalized, it should only be run by people capable of doing so, and not by the nexy random shmuck with a million bucks. And I apoligize if I offended anyone.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 4:04 am


A politician in Canada wanted to make a union for the prostitues so they could have protection from the pimps and a chance to have a retirement fund. Of course most regected this idea because it means it's run by the gov. and they'd be forced to follow their regulations. Besides that, there will always be underground prostitution and pimps, reguardless of what they'd do to stop it.

Personally I think that it should still be illegal because the trade still has other associations with it, like drugs and other blackmarket affairs. Many prostitues are drug addicts and have STDs. This means that not only are they selling their bodies, it means they are possibly also pushing drugs from their pimps onto men and they're giving STDs.

You'd have to get rid of that whole dirty trade which is not going to happen unless you buy a few hundred thousand bullets and give each pimp and dirty prostitue one to the head.
PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:34 am


Actually, we could use some of Europe's policies for this. In many countries over there prostitution is already legal.

They regulate and supervise them, so that they get their medical exams every certain time periods. They have a retirement fund, they have medical insurance, and I think they even have dental plans.

That, and even though they work on the street, they have security near by in some countries. I don't think pimps are involved, though, so I wouldn't know how that work, but I'm thinking like they're agents, so they get a certain cut of the pay.

I also think that it can be run by men. I do think that men have a place in the whoring business, and it's not just when they're the prostitutes. But I digress. I think that it should be run like any service industry.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 12:21 am


The four keys to a well-run legalized prostitution industry IMO:
1) Regular (I'm talking WEEKLY minimum) medical exams for the prostitutes, specifically blood testing for STDs and general 'are you okay?' checks.
2) The prostitute's immediate supervisors (Anyone who actively works in management of the brothel where they work) are of the orientation towards the opposite gender of the prostitutes. (Gay men supervised by a woman, straight women supervised by a woman, straight men supervised by a man, lesbian woman supervised by a man). Once you get above immediate supervision, it's more open (though matriarchal management should be unofficially encouraged), since it's harder for abuse to happen.
3) Brothels as the primary if not sole workplace for the Prostitutes. Three reasons for this. First, safety and privacy for the prostitutes and johns/janes. Second, it provides for cleaning of said johns/janes before they get any (this is how most reputable brothels in Thailand do it; the good reputable ones make that an enjoyable part of the experience). Third, accountability.
4) Most obvious to me: Even if they are legalized in the future, no drugs in the brothels. The prostitutes and related staff are to remain clean (particularly when it comes to stronger drugs), with the exception of alcohol, marijuana, or other drugs that can be reasonably be considered 'safe' in measured portions, and non-addictive.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 2:51 am


Koiyuki

Of course I was talking about the sex part of the equation, not the product being sold. And its a well documented fact that America *despite being the country that invented Girls Gone Wild* is one of the most prudish countries in the world.


Homely, anorexic, crack-addicted college girls showing off their uneven tits and nicked-while-shaving crotches to a camera, snorting and shouting, "Oh noes, look what I did!" are not hot! Dove commercials are sexier! gonk



I think prostitution should be legalized and controlled by people that care - no pimps, no madams, and NO unsypathetic law-enforcers. Unfortunately I don't believe it will or even could happen in America. People do think of prostitutes as immoral jezebelles preying on children and shooting up in alleys with their money. Doesn't matter what the truth of it is, there's no way any of us will live to see prostitutes respected in this country. Maybe another 150 years...

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 7:28 pm


Chrislea: And after seeing stuff like that, people wonder why I have an anime fetish. rolleyes

As for prostitution, I have to agree that it is highly unlikely that it will happen. Our 'morality' so to speak is extremely anti-prostitution, and regardless of the economic and societal benefits that could occur with it being legalized, people won't stand for it, keeping it in the hands of exploitative pimps and madams, while places like Thailand look at our prostitution and mock our uglier, less healthy, drug-addicted system.
PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 1:42 pm


I believe that prostitution should be legalized. Prostitution is not selling love or emotions or any other guarantees of happiness. It is selling sex. It is a service. It needs to meet various requirements and such, just like any other business. Environment, safety, and age requirements would be necessary. Participants might have to sign a waiver or what not, and identities should be kept private. As prostitution exists right now, it is unsanitary and unsafe in many cases. An amount of risk would still be there, but a lesser one. There would have to be advertising regulations of the business and it would be shut down if those rules are not followed. Those currently in jail just for prostitution should be let go and given help finding a new place to do business for. For those clients looking for naughtier sexual intercourse and the like would have to sign more forms to prevent lawsuits and other nasty things from happening to the business. On the same note, escort services that are strictly about escorts should be established. The government would have it mandatory and strictly enforced that a certain amount of the client's fees would have to go to the prostitute. A better, more socially accepted name should be made so that the shame can go away from the industry. It should not be looked down upon, and even though it will take years and years to correct this problem, it would be a good start. Men should also be allowed to prostitute under this same system. Although, the demand might not be realized right away, I believe that homosexual men and heterosexual women, might slowly up the demannd. As a person, I sometimes feel that being a prostitute is somewhat like being a nurse, it is more acceptable for a woman to be a prostitute than a man, even though prostitution in general is not socially acceptable, and so there is a smaller amount of male prostitutes. I think this balance over time could be corrected, because it is not just men who might need or want sex. It is a healthy activity, and a great stress reliever. Doctors should be onsite or at a ready convenience to ensure the safety of all involved at the prostitution facility.

The banning of prostitution is similar to the banning of alcohol, or the banning of abortion. Even if we ban it, the law will still be broken. We can at least increase safety, and supply the people with their needs, wants, and desires. It would clear the jails out of some people in their just for prostitution charges and the government money saved on that could go to the program for establishing safe prostitution facilities. This could create jobs for people and even boost the economy and safety of our communities.

This might control some of the problems with pimps and the like. It would not eliminate them all, but it would be a start, and could allow for safe places for these girls to go to after they can get away. Security personnel and staff could be on duty 24 hours a day, again creating more jobs. This system would not be perfect, and again have its downfalls, but would be better than having no system in place. Not every prostitute would be safe immediately, but it would be a start, and perhaps prevent more prostitutes from being unsafe.

Some may argue now that having prostitution legalized we are providing an immoral image for our children and grandchildren because we are saying that they can sell their bodies, but this is not so. They are not selling their bodies. They are selling services which their bodies provide, just like any other service such as massages, physical therapy, and what not. It would protect the lives of citizens and show compassion for prostitutes caught in bad situations. We would free our jails of so-called criminals, that have not really in my mind at least, really done a wrong. This would stimulate the economy and perhaps allow for more open-mindedness down the road for the profession. By allowing for prostitution to be legalized we would be setting a good example for our children.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 3:51 pm


Call me naive, but surely one of the perks of prostituition would be the lack of taxes to be paid? If it cannot be checked, then what tax is there to pay?

Or so I have gathered from my understanding here, in South Africa.

Prostituition, as much as it is a good idea to legalize it in order to break the whole stigmatism attached to it, and in order to protect the people in this particular sector of the sex industry, would not work that well - in my opinion.

As there are legal abortion clinics, there are always the illegal ones.

As there are legal Pharmacists, there are always those who would dispense the high level medication for a price.

If a pimp from Nigeria wishes to drug up his brothel in order to keep them in line, and still abduct more women from his aboriginal country, just to make a profit, what makes you think that he will budge and allow his prostitutes having rights within a government? Sure, you can always argue that you can hunt the ******** down and arrest them - that is a near impossible challenge to have.

The same argument applies to drugs and narcotics. If you legalize marijuana, every Tom, d**k and his mate will complain in order to get high. Even if you allowed drug dealers to sell marijuana on the streets, they would still take advantage and open the doors to other drugs, or even rip off his clientele. I mean, honestly, the idea of a cop arresting some dude for crappy pot is a bit hard to swallow to...for all you know the stoner just wants to be compensated with more money to buy more drugs.

Back onto the topic at hand...I do like the idea of giving health care programes and the sort for prostitutes and actually making them feel accept within society, but as mentioned before, there would be a whole lot of family dramas attached - and even our morals would drop. Boo woo? Think about it, forget about what religion taught us and the whole Ten Commandments bullshit. What we have established as right in the world is wholly dependent on who we are as a race. Simple primal instincts of jealousy come into play - and when man's mind started to evolve and delve deeper into their world and their well being, etc. But this'll broach into another topic right now again razz

Just remember kids, prostitution only got a really bad wrap when the Bible was invented...otherwise it was still pretty acceptable besides the few near murders from spouses and the sort ^,^
PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 10:19 am


I'd be all for it if we could get more 13 year olds involved.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 4:50 pm


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I'd be all for it if we could get more 13 year olds involved.

Emm...I dunno how many 13 year olds would wanna become hookers... sweatdrop
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