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Cyanna

PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:04 pm


I read this op-ed and I felt sick to my stomach.

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BRISTOL DID THE WRONG THING
Thu Sep 11, 7:58 PM ET

Abortion Should Be Mandatory for Pregnant Teens
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NEW YORK--You don't need a rich imagination to picture the scene. In the Alaska governor's mansion, a pair of parents and their visibly pregnant teenage daughter sit on a dead bear sprawled across a couch they had to have shipped because there isn't an Ethan Allen in Anchorage. On a second sofa, on the opposite side of a glass coffee table festooned by the exoskeleton of a giant crab, fidget a second set of parents and their son, a.k.a. The Extremely Nervous Boyfriend. Heads of dead animals line the walls.

"Levi, Levi, Levi." The governor pauses, reveling in the others' discomfort. Moments like this are how she earned the sobriquet Barracuda.

She leans in. "You little s---. You knocked up my daughter. Do you know how close your little sexcapade came to screwing up my plan for global domination? Now you're going to do the right thing."

A few days later, Extremely Nervous Boyfriend blinks under the bright lights of a stage in St. Paul, elevated to the even more challenging role of America's Unhappiest 18-Year-Old. I met a guy the night before he was executed. Levi Johnston had the same look in his eyes.

Sarracuda's 17-year-old fry was nearly as miserable. "Bristol Palin made the decision on her own to keep the baby," the McCain-Palin campaign claimed in its press release. Did the daughter of the mother of all anti-choice governors really have a choice? Well...

By pro-life standards, Sarracuda is an extremist. Parting ways with five out of six Americans, she's against abortion even in cases of rape and incest. For Bristol, doing the "right thing"--carrying the baby to term, getting married, being paraded across 37 million TV sets--was the path of least resistance.

In reality, Bristol is doing the wrong thing. She's having the kid. She's marrying the father. Three lives will likely be destroyed.

Even pro-choice liberals are afraid to speak the truth: teen marriage and parenthood are disasters for everyone concerned. I have serious problems with well-off married couples who decide to terminate their pregnancies for frivolous reasons. Conversely, abortion ought to be mandatory for people under 18. Twenty-five would be better. Teen marriage should be banned.

Anyone who went to high school knew a student couple where the girl became pregnant. What the unlucky couple decided to do about it would determine their future. The girls who had abortions went on with their lives. They graduated from high school and, if they were headed that way before the dipstick turned pink, continued with college and careers and all the other stuff young people are supposed to go on to do.

Then there were the girls who kept their babies. With few exceptions--I've never heard of any, but I imagine they exist--it was the wrong decision. Their lives were ruined. Many never graduated from high school, much less college. Their futures were grim: low educational attainment doomed them to dead-end jobs in the low-wage service sector. Married too young and under pressure, most wound up divorced. Many never remarried, or married stepfathers who barely tolerated their children. Their kids, raised in poverty in families led by single, stressed-out young moms, were themselves likely to repeat the cycle of downward mobility by getting pregnant in their teens.

Obviously, there are exceptions: teen pregnancies leading to lifelong partnerships with high school sweethearts, loving stepparents, daughters of 15-year-old parents making $1 million a year. But in most cases, studies confirm the anecdotal evidence. Having kids and getting married too young are a prescription for unhappiness.

Teen moms are more than twice as likely to drop out of high school. "The National Campaign to Prevent Teen Pregnancy reports that less than 40 percent of women who have a child before the age of 18 will graduate from high school, compared to a high school graduate rate of 75 percent for those who delay parenthood until their early twenties," law professors June Carbone and Noami Cahn wrote in the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.

Teen brides are ten times more likely to plunge into poverty. In 2005 University of Rochester economist Gordon Dahl found that "that a woman who marries young is 28 percentage points more likely to live in poverty when she is older." A 1993 study by the Annie E. Casey Foundation determined that only 8 percent of women who finished high school, married before having a child, and married after age 20 became poor. 79 percent of women who didn't do these things wound up poor.

As the daughter of a possible future president, Bristol Palin probably won't be poor. (Although prominent figures, like Bill Cosby and Alan Keyes, do disown their children.) Even setting aside Levi's famous MySpace page ("I don't want kids"), his pending marriage to Bristol is probably doomed.

When teenage girls become pregnant, eight out of 10 of the fathers never marry them. One can hardly blame the runaway grooms, considering the probable outcomes. A 2002 study by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services indicates that 59 percent of couples who marry before age 18 split up within 15 years. But waiting a few years markedly increases a marriage's odds: 64 percent of couples who get hitched after age 20 are still married 15 years later.

I'll say it again: There are exceptions to every rule. Guys smoke two packs a day and live be to be 100. I've driven 115 miles per hour and I'm still here. But neither smoking nor speeding are smart choices. One should be illegal; the other is. Society sets rules and regulations and laws to cover common situations and typical outcomes. On the matter of teen pregnancy and marriage, the typical outcome is terrible.

Those who keep silent about Levi and Bristol's bad decisions--especially those marketing them as examples to be emulated--are doing society a disservice. Levi and Bristol are about to compound one tragedy (unplanned teen pregnancy) with another (involuntary marriage). They're setting a terrible example for other teenagers who will find themselves in their situation.

Congress should act to protect these kids from themselves--ban teen marriage, mandate teen abortion.


Linky: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ucru/20080911/cm_ucru/bristoldidthewrongthing;_ylt=AkWXtqt8jmBtH7.dT1RViw_9wxIF


To be honest, I always thought Ted Rall was an unsophisticated, whiney, a** and how he got syndicated is beyond me. But now I'm making it publicly known.

Someone PLEASE tell me I'm misunderstanding him and that he's actually a funny fellow with sarcastic wit so then I can at least put him on the same level as Ann Coulter. But my low opinion of Rall is not the subject of the topic.

So...mandatory teen abortions anyone?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 12:11 am


I don't know him but that is horrible! Pro-choice? More like anti-life/pro-abortion if you ask me. If there is a choice, why is it always just abortion that they bring up? Why not help the people that want to keep the kid but are struggling?

How can they think mandatory aborts is a good thing? Do they know how traumatic that can be for some people? Even if they did abort, there is no guarantee that they would have a good job later on either.

They make is sound that having a kid is the worst thing that could happen. It many be hard but it doesn't mean your life would be automatically ruined. If they want it bad enough, they would do all they can to go to school and get a decent job and we need more programs that could help them.

Besides, nobody said they have to keep the kid, there is adoption.

And no marriage is guaranteed to last, no matter what age you get married. But that doesn't mean marriage should be banned. Marriages take work to last.

Now if they are being forced to marry, of course there is a higher chance it would fail as they don't want to be married in the first place.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 12:47 am


I'm hoping that was just a joke in poor taste.

But wow. And we're the judgmental ones who make girls feel like idiots for being pregnant, right?
PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:42 am


I love how it's ALWAYS about what is best for the woman. It's like they miss the entire point about the fetus being a human being.

It's like arguing with a slave owner who thinks that black people aren't people. They would argue in much the same way.

"It's best for everyone involved! I get crops, you get my produce, we all win!"

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:12 am


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In reality, Bristol is doing the wrong thing. She's having the kid. She's marrying the father. Three lives will likely be destroyed.


If she had the abortion at least one would be destroyed if not more.
PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:45 am


I love this article for both messages it sends - teens are incapable morons and shouldn't make any decisions, and abortion should be mandated. Yeah, force it on the one group of people left who can't legally speak for themselves, to destroy another group of humans who can't speak for themselves. Teens don't have emotions for their offspring! They just act like they do. As for the poor people living in broken-down trailers and earning minimum wage? They have every right to spit out babies, as long as they're 18 or older! rolleyes

But it has to be a joke. sweatdrop It just doesn't seem realistic. I don't think anyone could devalue human life and 'freedom of choice' that much without getting attacked by both Choicers and Lifers.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:43 am


Yep, that's more anti-choice than anyone in this guild will ever be.

Even if this is satire, there are plenty of people who think this way.
PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 2:06 pm


I don't think being raped is a factor, it's not like the children chose to be born by a raper.

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YellowRoses610

PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 8:06 pm


Ah yes, because a young woman failing to graduate a high school is much worse than a child being murdered. And yes, I do use that term because on of the oldest definitions of murder is killing a person unjustly. Killing a some one who has done nothing wrong is always unjust.

Yes, it will be hard for all the people involved to have the baby, the mother and father may have to drop out of high school, they may have to work two jobs and not have a nice house, they may be disowned by their families. But some one’s life is on the line, and that should be more important than money, education, your relationship with your parents and how the world judges you.

This is the sort of thing that makes me rather sad about living in this country, the fact that some people think that money or an easy life is more important than a person’s life.
PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:27 pm


If there is ever a law to force mandatory abortion, that will be too much like Nazi eugenics. It will be the point I start more hostile protest.

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YellowRoses610

PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 9:45 pm


This is the sort of thing that makes being belligerent ever so temptin. Oh were it not that doing such a thing would undermine our goal.
PostPosted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 3:30 pm


Wow. The dude who wrote the article seriously needs to get a life. No pun intended.
And we're the radical ones?

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 11:59 pm


>.>;; That's horrible!

I had a friend, her father forced her to get an abortion.... T3T That's horrible
PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 4:48 am


Those women who get abortions are emotionaly scared for life. I mean, how would you ever get past the fact that you killed your own child?! Adoption is the best choice, millions of couple are chomping at the bit to have a child. It may be hard, but it won't scar you like the "easy way out" (abortion)

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rweghrheh

PostPosted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:23 am


djmagic64
Those women who get abortions are emotionally scared for life. I mean, how would you ever get past the fact that you killed your own child?! Adoption is the best choice, millions of couple are chomping at the bit to have a child. It may be hard, but it won't scar you like the "easy way out" (abortion)


Sadly some women don't care and are even happy about it but there are some that are scarred for life (like the ones that were forced to get an abortion).

Some can regret it or end up with depression, the depression can be due to sudden change in hormones. Your body is changing as the baby is developing and preparing to give birth and some chemicals help the woman to bond with that child and when something happens or there is a change in hormones, it can effect people emotionally

Pro-choicers may try to tell you otherwise but hormones can cause depression after a miscarriage, abortion, or postpartum (after birth).
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