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kainhighwind2

PostPosted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:23 pm


I can't recall where, but I remember reading somewhere that swearing (ie, cussing, etc) causes bad karma. I believe it and stopped swearing(except when singing songs, because I don't believe in censorship). I've found that I actually feel much better about myself since I've stopped swearing, and I've also noticed recently that I'm a lot more patient than anyone else I know, but I'm not sure if that's because of this or of my trying to better myself through Buddha, even if I don't know how to meditate. I'm wondering what other people think! Also, I'll add a small poll for people who'd like some extra gold.



One more thing I've noticed: cussing is actually habit that can be difficult to break, especially if you're like I was, who made sailors look like Mormon priests.
PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 3:00 pm


I'm not sure if swearing generates bad karma, but I don't think it's practising Right Speech, so I also stopped swearing awhile ago. The only thing I say (which I'm still trying to stop) is saying "ohmygod". It's taking the name of the Christian God in vain, and might not matter all that much to a Buddhist, but I do not consider it Right Speech.

I say "holy crap" instead. I wonder if that's just as bad?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:14 pm


I swear, and it certainly is in violate of Right Speech. It is considered to be a misuse of your speech and does not contribute anything constructive to your dialogue.

It's something I'm working on along with trying to transition to E-Prime.
PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 1:36 pm


Swearing is like a second nature to me. It's all about how its intended.

Mrs Joe Trohman


Jungle Boots

PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 6:35 am


i swear like a foo. when you said that you used to swear so much it made sailors look like mormons Im right there with ya. lol

How i see it is, its a violation of right speech, because as buddhists we are working for the benefit of all living beings. And swearing generates false impressions of ourselves in others, it might even upset and offend other people. It puts them in a bad mood, it distracts them from their own mindfulness, from their own happiness.

not to mention with poor and false impressions in other people we get a bad reputation, and that reputation holds us back from gaining a closer more helpful relationship with other people. We cannot be the role model we are supposed to be as buddhists if no one wants to listen to the 'mindless, bad mouthed, bad kid'. Trust me; working to overcome a bad reputation is almost twice as hard as quitting an addiction to bad words.

poor language has a stigma of coming from a bad mind. it portrays a bad mind every time you swear, and it hurts a lot of people around you if they are not as easy going as, perhaps, you are.

i think, like everything else, if you do choose to swear, that you are mindful of who is going to hear it. That is if you even choose to swear at all.
PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:47 pm


Personally I think it depends on how the cursing is used. I think it depends on whether it's being confrontational.

I have a bad habit to say "and s**t" in sentences a lot instead of maybe saying "and stuff".

I don't really think it offends my friends. They curse too, usually in a non confrontational way, basically the same as I do.

Though I don't swear to my superiors or people I don't know very well, even in the way I was stating above. Mainly because I don't know them well enough to know whether they would find it offensive if I chucked it in there. I wouldn't want to offend anyone, even if I wasn't trying to. =P

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kainhighwind2

PostPosted: Tue Nov 25, 2008 7:22 pm


jungle boots
i swear like a foo. when you said that you used to swear so much it made sailors look like mormons Im right there with ya. lol

How i see it is, its a violation of right speech, because as buddhists we are working for the benefit of all living beings. And swearing generates false impressions of ourselves in others, it might even upset and offend other people. It puts them in a bad mood, it distracts them from their own mindfulness, from their own happiness.

not to mention with poor and false impressions in other people we get a bad reputation, and that reputation holds us back from gaining a closer more helpful relationship with other people. We cannot be the role model we are supposed to be as buddhists if no one wants to listen to the 'mindless, bad mouthed, bad kid'. Trust me; working to overcome a bad reputation is almost twice as hard as quitting an addiction to bad words.

poor language has a stigma of coming from a bad mind. it portrays a bad mind every time you swear, and it hurts a lot of people around you if they are not as easy going as, perhaps, you are.

i think, like everything else, if you do choose to swear, that you are mindful of who is going to hear it. That is if you even choose to swear at all.


You know, I find that to be true in so many ways. I do admit that i say the word "crap" a lot, but I don't see that as swearing ( I've even heard it on Cartoon Network). I think I should probably try to cut back on saying that as well, if only to improve myself and my vocabulary (or barring that, self-control from keeping silent and saying nothing) slightly. The only times I truly swear is when singing, because I don't believe in censoring song or other works of art.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:09 am


It is unnecessary and makes you look unintelligent, like you can't come up with a better expression. It also violates right speech, IMO...

I try to avoid it, but I slip up sometimes.

Calmate


zammap

PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 8:52 am


sweatdrop
I curse rather a lot but I would never use them directed at a person(s) or ideas. Like, "that is so ____ cool!" Or "s**t like that". I use them in a sort of strong adjective. But if I know I'm around a person who find such words offensive just to otter, or when I'm around kids, I don't use the words because THEN it would be bad/hurtful. It all depends, I suppose, who you're talking to.

A person can very well hurt another's feelings WITHOUT the use of cursing. I can call a person "an idiotic waste of space with the only ability to function as a door stop" and it's far more hurtful then if I was to say something like "you're ******** stupid". (even if it doesn't make the person feel bad it does make you look stupid yourself, though.)

How ever I have gotten into a very bad habit of saying "Oh, my lord." At first it was my way to getting out of saying God, seeing as, well, it's not my god, but saying Lord Buddha in vain is kinda worst too.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 4:27 pm


I try not to swear, but I do sometimes.

I think it is important how I choose my words. Spoken/written language is one of the ways we communicate with each other and I feel it is already complex enough, without using derogatory slang (the phrase "that's go gay" comes to mind).

In "that's so gay" the meaning could either be positive or negative depending on who is speaking and who is listening. I avoid the phrase because I am not gay, I have no desire to make fun of people who identify as gay and I do not wish to equate "gay" with stupid or dumb.

One saying I need to stop is, "********" which is in my opinion, one of the worst examples of a word being misused.

Astrox


Zen Bassist

PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2009 8:36 pm


Mrs Joe Trohman
Swearing is like a second nature to me. It's all about how its intended.


It's the meaning behind the words, not the words themselves. I swear kind of often and a heck of a lot more when I'm mad, but as long as I don't mean the things behind what I say then it's fine. (Like when I say "Why the ******** would you do that?!" I mean it like someone who would say heck, it's put in there to show meaning/anger.)
PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2009 3:53 pm


Well, there's another thing I noticed, there are over 10,000 works in the english language, why go back to the same 5 or 6?

kainhighwind2


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 02, 2009 8:15 pm


Personally I'm not usually offended unless a person swears excessively... also certain words bother me more than others. Context is also important.

When it comes to cursing, I try to hold back as much as I possibly can. I don't swear much just because for some reason, I always feel like it brings me down emotionally. I don't know why that is - most of my family members swear quite a lot and I'm used to hearing some pretty colorful (and surprisingly creative) strains of profanity. Sometimes I actually kind of wish I was able to do that myself, lol.
PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 1:23 am


on the other hand, i think using explatives is rather potent... some people might say that using them in exchange for better adjectives and emotional exhaggerators in speech portrays a lack of creativity in vocabulary. but i dunno... some times i hear the f-word in a certain situation and its the word to use.

it works. ultimately the words are only words and words dont really exist so ultimately there is no real damage if one can recognise that reality. but at the same time words are not insignificant even if they are crudely used or mundane. i think there is a majesty to words, to language itself, and especially in mundane and over used words, curse words included. (lol because curse words are vastly overused in my vocabulary.)

hmmm... every sentence is poetry to me, and thus every word is specifically a peice of that poetry a peice of art. strong, strange, real, and unreal. good stuff...

i would still becareful who you swear around, if you even swear at all... which i dont suggest starting, very very addictive.

Jungle Boots


Rakashael

PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 5:11 pm


In my experience I have never really come acrossed a 'bad word'. Except something that was originally used to slander someone. All of the supposed swear words along some point in time weren't originally thought of as swear words but as 'peasant talk'. For instance the word 's**t' meant or course dung, poop, crap, feces. The word s**t was a term that sheep farmers would use to refer to their animal's fecal matter. The higher ups in soceity considered most anything said by anyone lower than them to be 'slanderous' or 'uncivilized'. This is where I understand the censoring of certain words came from. No body wanted to sound like a poor, dirty ol' farmer. I grew up as a poor, dirty farmer and so I will say s**t when I mean to say s**t because that is exactly what it means. This can be applied to all other 'swear' words in the history of the world. Only when it is used for a truly cruel or disrespectful purpose should a person be hushed.
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