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rikuHEART
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:20 pm


It's something I've been pondering for a while now.

We all know that
the weather has gone wacko these past few years. Here in the NW we've had massive snowfalls (well, for here at least) and windstorms, and right now when it SHOULD be in the mid-high 70s with lots of sun, we're getting mid-50s to mid-60s and tons of rain. Usually by May everyone's in shorts and T-shirts, but right now you see Northfaces and Uggs. We haven't been this cold in June since 1890 or something like that, according to our local news. When I was a kid we would only get a couple inches of snow in January, but this winter we've had snow and a wind storm in December, lots more snow in January, and even in APRIL.

Plus with all the floods, hurricanes, and tornadoes in the mid-west this year, as well as the extreme heat on the East coast this week, droughts in Barcelona but rain in Madrid (REALLY weird...Madrid may as well be a desert, or it should be that way.)...I also heard that scientists predict
many more hurricanes this year to hit the U.S. than in previous decades. What is wrong with the weather?

Could it be global warming? Keep in mind that global warming doesn't mean everywhere gets hotter - it makes some places hotter, others colder, some places dryer, and others wetter. It's only called "global warming" because on average Earth's temperature is rising.

Any scientific resources are appreciated. Sorry for writing a novel.
gonk
PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 11:16 am


Well, I can tell you that here in the Texas Panhandle it's awfully different.

One instance is those late spring frosts. By mid to late March it'll warm up enough that the trees will thaw themselves out from their dormancy and put out their beautiful blooms, but then some frost will come along and kill all those blooms.

Now if they were just blooms, it wouldn't be so bad, but for the fruit bearing trees this pretty much eliminates their chances of bearing fruit. One year we had this big apricot tree, put out it's blooms awfully early and then that damn frost came along, killed all those blooms.
Where we once had more apricots then we could handle, enough to either give away to the neighbors or sell and still have enough for all the cobbler and jam you could eat, we now had absolutely no apricots.

I think both the warmth and the frosts are out of wack. It gets warm too early that it tricks these trees, and then for some reason these frosts will persist sometimes all the way until late April. It makes it hard for those growing fruit.

Then there's these tornadoes. They're always fairly common, but last summer they were just all over the place, same year that Greensburg or whatever the town's called got devastated (and now has it's own TV show about rebuilding in an environmentally friendly manner).

And then there's the rains, I went hiking up at this Canyon close to where I live, and this interpreter was remarking about how where there was once 15 inches of rain by this time there was now only about 2 or 3 inches, the Prickly Pears were actually looking sickly.

Yeah, I kinda went on a rant here, but it only goes to show you that the Panhandle is changing a bit. Not enough to set any records mind you, but it's a lot different than the norm. May be a temporary thing, or it may not, I don't know. Either way, it ain't too much fun.

Screaming Wombat


rikuHEART
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 6:17 pm


That's exactly what I'm talking about. I mean think about it - we've had soo many natural disasters during the past - what? - 6 months that we've had of this year? Even during the past 50 years they've been escalating more and more. Tornadoes, hurricanes, typhoons, and other bizarre weather patterns are happening everywhere. I don't want to jump to conclusions, but could global warming be the source behind all this? confused
PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 2:11 pm


I'm not sure if global warming is doing all of this, I mean the green-house effect, because the earth does go through stages, like the ice age. And people are usually prone to blame other people for these things because it fells good for them to have someone to blame.
I'm not saying i don't believe in the whole global warming thing, I'm just keeping an open mind.
smile

kab00dl3z


Screaming Wombat

PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 7:39 pm


rikuHEART
That's exactly what I'm talking about. I mean think about it - we've had soo many natural disasters during the past - what? - 6 months that we've had of this year? Even during the past 50 years they've been escalating more and more. Tornadoes, hurricanes, typhoons, and other bizarre weather patterns are happening everywhere. I don't want to jump to conclusions, but could global warming be the source behind all this? confused

I could see it happening, though there are so many other factors that could be to blame. As on ecologist pointed out, all the floods in the Midwest can easily be attributed to poor crop management and the modification of rivers in the area.
Of course, with tornado frequency on the rise, what else can you blame? There certainly is a change in climate in that case, has to be, and it's very likely our fault.

On the subject of floods, anyone remember Hurricane Dolly? That tiny little category 2 number that made a relatively uneventful move up the Texas coast?
Well, when the remaining moisture hit the mountain resort town (technically it's a village, but I just call it a town) of Ruidoso, NM, it dumped 6 inches of rain on the place.

Never happened before in all of Ruidoso's recorded history. Which of course meant that none of the residents had flood insurance

I've been there before on numerous occasions since I'm a native of New Mexico, and I can easily say that it's the most beautiful town I've ever seen up until all this, not quite sure how they're gonna fix it now.

I always knew that a case of climate change would change the lives of many people through natural disasters as well as the slow decay of the land, but whenever I saw that beautiful little town get washed away, that's whenever it hit me that very few places in the U.S. as well as the world as a whole would be safe and stable enough to live for long periods of time.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:39 am


Thing is, global warming doesn't only mean warming, it could also mean cooling, drying, more precipitation...etc. The only reason why it's called global warming is because the Earth's overall temperature is skyrocketing. An Inconvenient Truth tells us that if Greenland melted, Europe would get frozen over because there wouldn't be a warm Atlantic current flowing there anymore.

So that's why I'm questioning all of this abnormal weather - not just the rising temperatures.

rikuHEART
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kab00dl3z

PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 8:37 pm


kab00dl3z
I'm not sure if global warming is doing all of this, I mean the green-house effect, because the earth does go through stages, like the ice age. And people are usually prone to blame other people for these things because it fells good for them to have someone to blame.
I'm not saying i don't believe in the whole global warming thing, I'm just keeping an open mind.
smile

I mean i don't really Believe one thing or the other, im very diplomatic
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