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Yue_Kizu

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 12:30 pm


i just wanna know what u think on this subject........as u can guess from the title i just wanna know if there is a heaven or hell u know an afterlife sweatdrop
PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 2:14 pm


I.. Geuss? I haven't really got to that, it's a wonderful thing to think. (Lawlz, if you don't know me, i'm new. xDD)

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ChiyuriYami

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:17 pm


Well from what I learn from the System, yes there is such a thing as an afterlife.
until your soul is mature enough, it will keep on reincarnating.
Once it is mature enought, this is the last life of that person and the soul will go to it's afterlife.

That afterlife is but a reflection of what you want.
Someone who believe in Heaven will create a world similar to what he/she believe Heaven is like.
Someone who believe he/she will end up in Hell will create a world similar to what he/she believe Hell is like.
Someone who doesn't believe he/she died, will create a world similar to this one.
Someone who believe in oblivion after death, well for that person, it's going to be a very horrible afterlife of nothingness...
Someone who know all of this can just create anykind of world he/she desire to have as an afterlife.
PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:19 pm


I believe that there is an afterlife, but I really have no way of backing it up.

I've seen the lower astral planes referred to as Hell or Hells and the upper astral planes referred to as Heaven.

Personally, I feel that if you spend your life growing and developing spiritually that when you die you'll return to the Source; whatever that's like I can't speculate. I guess if you aren't ready to return then you just reincarnate and try again.

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Dark_of_Niwa

PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:29 pm


That I cannot answer.

But I have a question-
What happens when your soul reaches enlightenment in the reincarnation theory?Is that it?Have you beat the game?Is there a sequel?
PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2007 7:33 pm


Dark_of_Niwa
That I cannot answer.

But I have a question-
What happens when your soul reaches enlightenment in the reincarnation theory?Is that it?Have you beat the game?Is there a sequel?


According to a lot of lore, you eliminate the need to reincarnate. That doesn't mean that you can't. The Dalai Lama is an enlightened individual that continues to reincarnate in order to help mankind.

As far as what happens if you choose not to reincarnate; I don't really know. Some say you get to play around on the spiritual planes, others that you become one with the Source again. It could be anything.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 5:23 am


Obscurus
Dark_of_Niwa
That I cannot answer.

But I have a question-
What happens when your soul reaches enlightenment in the reincarnation theory?Is that it?Have you beat the game?Is there a sequel?


According to a lot of lore, you eliminate the need to reincarnate. That doesn't mean that you can't. The Dalai Lama is an enlightened individual that continues to reincarnate in order to help mankind.

As far as what happens if you choose not to reincarnate; I don't really know. Some say you get to play around on the spiritual planes, others that you become one with the Source again. It could be anything.


Being enlightened allows you to reach Nirvana. Abiding in Nirvana is comparible to "deathlessness" and is the completel opposite of samsara (the cycle of rebirth). It's also been said that Nirvana cannot be sensed in any way.

Nirvana, in Buddhism, seems to be deliberately abstract in what it is, looks like or what happens there. All that can be confirmed is that Nirvana is completely free of every pain that happens in the cycle of life and death.

As for hells? Well, sure, I believe in them. But you've got to have done something pretty bad is all I can say.
PostPosted: Sat Nov 10, 2007 7:04 am


Nirvana by that description sounds like a type of hell...

My thought there is that if there isn't anything bad to compare... well... I don't know. The description of nirvana just sounds very... frightening. sweatdrop

My personal view (or wish) is that I would be a wandering spirit of sorts... or a family guardian... in that I guess I would follow the family lines or something, since it's a guarantee that when I naturally die everyone I know in the family will probably be dead as well... except my sisters who are currently half my age. sweatdrop

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 5:09 am


aaarhus
Nirvana by that description sounds like a type of hell...

My thought there is that if there isn't anything bad to compare... well... I don't know. The description of nirvana just sounds very... frightening. sweatdrop

My personal view (or wish) is that I would be a wandering spirit of sorts... or a family guardian... in that I guess I would follow the family lines or something, since it's a guarantee that when I naturally die everyone I know in the family will probably be dead as well... except my sisters who are currently half my age. sweatdrop


Well, the emotion present in Nirvana is that of complete happiness, so I wouldn't say it's frightening at all.
PostPosted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 4:32 pm


Not only do I think there is a Heaven and Hell, I think there are loads of them. I also think there are shitloads of worlds, both astral, magical and not, different universes, different rules, different places, and I think, depending, you could end up wherever the hell you want/need/just happen to be. And personally, Nirvana and Heaven seem sweet, but I think I'd be bored. I'd rather stay behind somewhere and go somewhere else where there are still problems and both try to help and do whatever the hell I want.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 14, 2007 5:11 am


Joshua_Ritter
Not only do I think there is a Heaven and Hell, I think there are loads of them. I also think there are shitloads of worlds, both astral, magical and not, different universes, different rules, different places, and I think, depending, you could end up wherever the hell you want/need/just happen to be. And personally, Nirvana and Heaven seem sweet, but I think I'd be bored. I'd rather stay behind somewhere and go somewhere else where there are still problems and both try to help and do whatever the hell I want.


Buddhism has that route too. Being a Bodhissatva. You stave off being a Buddha and reaching Nirvana until all living beings are removed from suffering. In other words, you don't go to Nirvana until it's the only place where there's still a party.

As for multiple hells? Buddhism has at least 16 of them from what I can remember.
PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 1:50 am


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Joshua_Ritter
Not only do I think there is a Heaven and Hell, I think there are loads of them. I also think there are shitloads of worlds, both astral, magical and not, different universes, different rules, different places, and I think, depending, you could end up wherever the hell you want/need/just happen to be. And personally, Nirvana and Heaven seem sweet, but I think I'd be bored. I'd rather stay behind somewhere and go somewhere else where there are still problems and both try to help and do whatever the hell I want.


Buddhism has that route too. Being a Bodhissatva. You stave off being a Buddha and reaching Nirvana until all living beings are removed from suffering. In other words, you don't go to Nirvana until it's the only place where there's still a party.

As for multiple hells? Buddhism has at least 16 of them from what I can remember.

Pretty sweet, you should make me one of those.

But the party I'm thinking of would be more like stopping by Nirvana in Vishnu's convertible, on the way to Xenu's mansion, to punch him in the face.

Joshua_Ritter
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So-chan 15

PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 8:48 am


i say "yes" theres an after life. i know this is none of my busness...but i think that there is both heven....and hell...it all depends on what you belive. so long as you belive it with all your heart...your fine.
PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:47 pm


^_^ thanks for the opinions and thoughts biggrin

Yue_Kizu


Joshua_Ritter
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Dapper Genius

PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:04 pm


Carmenshadow
^_^ thanks for the opinions and thoughts biggrin
No prob, dear. You want nigh unverifiable metaphysical opinions, then most certainly I will throw down anytime.
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