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Sir_Catherine Vice Captain
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 Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 12:57 pm
We have a guild rule banning threads repeating what most fans consider to be basic facts and revelations. However, recently a thread concerning Alucard's name surfaced and it appeared that even some long time fans of Hellsing were not aware of the Alucard/Dracula connection. This caused some amount of bashing and over three pages of posting in a thread that is technically banned. To keep the clutter of our main forum down, we really do need to ban such repetitive threads. This is not, however, fair to those who really don't know or to whom the knowledge is honestly new and wish to share what they think is an amazing discovery with the rest of the guild.
Below is what should develop into a solution to this conundrum. A list of basic facts about Hellsing, its characters and its story. No plot summaries or full character bios, these can be found elsewhere, but rather facts that seem not be stated outright yet are so widely accepted they don't need constant repeating in various threads.
There is no scientific proof for many of these facts, but they are accepted by the fan community and have not been refuted by Hirano. Indeed, they are pulled from clues and hints, some very blatant, given in Hirano's work.I am working within parameters of my own device that would be difficult to accurately spell out. Please don't take offense if I don't add your suggested fact to the list, or edit and revamp the list at a later date.Immense thank you to all who are contributing to this thread and the list being formed. Thank you for your patience as I find the time to read through and add what I feel appropriate.---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Hellsing is heavily influenced, at its roots based in, Bram Stoker's Dracula and on the historical figure Vlad III Dracula (also known as "the Impaler"). Bram Stoker's Dracula (the film) is another heavy influence. 2. Alucard is Dracula and Vlad the Impaler. 3. Alucard's name is Dracula spelled backwards. A palindrome in purpose, if not strict definition. 4. Sir Integral is a decedent of Abraham van Helsing, of Dracula. 5. Hellsing is an Anglicized version of van Helsing. 6. Schrödinger is a cat boy, not a wolf or dog. His existence is a pun on Schrödinger's cat"". 7. The Wehrwolf are a specific NAZI group, not a group of werewolves. Zorin and Rip are members of this group. 8. Captain is a werewolf and the only one we know of in Hellsing. 9. Millennium is based off of real aspects of the SS. 10. Rip Van Winkle is named after a literary character of the same name. Her alarm clock is the only tie-in to this. 11. Almost all of the characters from Hellsing had a base in Kohta Hirano's earlier works. 12. We have no names for the characters of Captain, Major and Doctor. 13. Iscariot is named after Judas Iscariot, the disciple that betrayed Christ. 14. The Hellsing manga has been made into a 13 episode TV anime series and an ongoing OVA.
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Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 1:08 pm
Nice idea. fixes:
1 - BRAM Stoker, not Brahn
2 - Mention that the Varvulfs are a group of nazis, and that the only real werewolf is Captain 3nodding
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Sir_Catherine Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:50 am
Thank you Jan for the correction and additions.
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Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 5:01 pm
Sir Catherine, the term you are looking for is "Anagram"
And I agree with Jan, a good idea for the forum, it makes us all the more professional.
Uber Kudos on your avi Catherine, btw
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Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 3:37 am
Overlord Ixmythot Sir Catherine, the term you are looking for is "Anagram" And I agree with Jan, a good idea for the forum, it makes us all the more professional. Uber Kudos on your avi Catherine, btw but an anagram can be a jumble. Alucards name is merely reversed. One of my original characters for a sci-fi story was an anagram. He was Arc Dual. ninja
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Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 5:30 pm
First off Jan, that was a horrible pun, never use it again.
Second, while you are right where it is merely a reversal, the Original TV series has the subbed version state that "My name is an "anagram" as well" in reference to Douchebag...er...Incognito.....
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 3:42 pm
Overlord Ixmythot First off Jan, that was a horrible pun, never use it again. Second, while you are right where it is merely a reversal, the Original TV series has the subbed version state that "My name is an "anagram" as well" in reference to Douchebag...er...Incognito..... Actually, I'm pretty sure it was 'enigma" in the subs, as well as the dub. Since, well...incognito isn't an anagram. Period, end of story. I'll post something relevant on here when I can think of it...
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 5:36 pm
Elindarhya Overlord Ixmythot First off Jan, that was a horrible pun, never use it again. Second, while you are right where it is merely a reversal, the Original TV series has the subbed version state that "My name is an "anagram" as well" in reference to Douchebag...er...Incognito..... Actually, I'm pretty sure it was 'enigma" in the subs, as well as the dub. Since, well...incognito isn't an anagram. Period, end of story. I'll post something relevant on here when I can think of it...
BTW, I'm glad this thread was put up. I didn't pay much attention to the "Alucard's name a coincidence..." thread, but I read some of it, and it was just a little out of hand. So hopefully this won't go unnoticed by those who need the information in this thread (and by that, I mean hopefully they won't think they already know everything there is to know about Hellsing and wind up making a fool of themselves).
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 6:30 pm
Podkayne of Mars Elindarhya Overlord Ixmythot First off Jan, that was a horrible pun, never use it again. Second, while you are right where it is merely a reversal, the Original TV series has the subbed version state that "My name is an "anagram" as well" in reference to Douchebag...er...Incognito..... Actually, I'm pretty sure it was 'enigma" in the subs, as well as the dub. Since, well...incognito isn't an anagram. Period, end of story. I'll post something relevant on here when I can think of it...
BTW, I'm glad this thread was put up. I didn't pay much attention to the "Alucard's name a coincidence..." thread, but I read some of it, and it was just a little out of hand. So hopefully this won't go unnoticed by those who need the information in this thread (and by that, I mean hopefully they won't think they already know everything there is to know about Hellsing and wind up making a fool of themselves). an enigma is a mysterious person or thing (i know cuz i looked it up when he first said it in the anime : P ) All he really ment in the Anime was that Alucard wasn't his real name. Hellsing was also influenced by that old Nosfuratu movie, just look at incognito. And that one vampire story about the countess who kept that on girl locked up. That laura and Carmella thing. (sorry, i don't know any titles crying )
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:08 pm
Incognito is one who goes in secret
But yes, please label that Schro, Zorin, and Rip Van (the later of which specifically) are werewolves in title. I hate repeat topics of people asking if Rip is a werewolf or a vampire =/
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Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 7:26 pm
deathbybox Podkayne of Mars Elindarhya Overlord Ixmythot First off Jan, that was a horrible pun, never use it again. Second, while you are right where it is merely a reversal, the Original TV series has the subbed version state that "My name is an "anagram" as well" in reference to Douchebag...er...Incognito..... Actually, I'm pretty sure it was 'enigma" in the subs, as well as the dub. Since, well...incognito isn't an anagram. Period, end of story. I'll post something relevant on here when I can think of it...
BTW, I'm glad this thread was put up. I didn't pay much attention to the "Alucard's name a coincidence..." thread, but I read some of it, and it was just a little out of hand. So hopefully this won't go unnoticed by those who need the information in this thread (and by that, I mean hopefully they won't think they already know everything there is to know about Hellsing and wind up making a fool of themselves). an enigma is a mysterious person or thing (i know cuz i looked it up when he first said it in the anime : P ) All he really ment in the Anime was that Alucard wasn't his real name. Hellsing was also influenced by that old Nosfuratu movie, just look at incognito. And that one vampire story about the countess who kept that on girl locked up. That laura and Carmella thing. (sorry, i don't know any titles crying )
I think Incognito may have been influenced by the Nosfuratu movie as well (based on pictures I've seen, not that I've actually watched it), but I don't know of any evidence that actually supports that.
Also, according to Erin Ptah of Shine, Laura of order 09 had no ties with Countess Mircalla Karnstein at all, except that she simply picked the name of Carmilla's victim from the book to be her alias. Supposedly, Laura is actually a Baobhan Sith (nicknamed Bubanccy).
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:15 pm
Kopii Arnaert Incognito is one who goes in secret But yes, please label that Schro, Zorin, and Rip Van (the later of which specifically) are werewolves in title. I hate repeat topics of people asking if Rip is a werewolf or a vampire =/ i think she already did saying their unit is called the werewolves, but people do get things confused a lot. especially poor scho. people keep insisting that he's a werewolf, and he's not, he's a catboy, and also hitler's son if you read the pre-hellsing hentai hirano wrote. (hitler+catgirl=schrodinger crying ) poor schro, i'd hate to be him when father's day rolls around...
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:24 pm
michigami Kopii Arnaert Incognito is one who goes in secret But yes, please label that Schro, Zorin, and Rip Van (the later of which specifically) are werewolves in title. I hate repeat topics of people asking if Rip is a werewolf or a vampire =/ i think she already did saying their unit is called the werewolves, but people do get things confused a lot. especially poor scho. people keep insisting that he's a werewolf, and he's not, he's a catboy, and also hitler's son if you read the pre-hellsing hentai hirano wrote. (hitler+catgirl=scrodinger crying ) poor schro, i'd hate to be him when father's day rolls around...
I prefer to think that Schroedinger is purely Dok's invention in Hellsing canon, since... the idea brought on by that hentai is pretty creepy. Hitler on the sports scene is funny, but Hitler on a catgirl is what scars people for life. gonk
I kind of looked at that pre-Hellsing story, but it still confuses me, and I don't really want to go look at it again to clear things up; but anyway, Dok was the one that instigated the HitlerxxxCatgirl experiment, wasn't he?
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Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:54 am
Thank you all for your input! Wow, more than I expected, to be honest.
Alright, I'll name Zorin and Rip as part of the Nazi Verwolf (sp?) unit, but it must be clear that they are not actual werewolves. Are we certain that Schro is also part of this unit, not just attached to Major? Is Captain part of this unit?
As far as the debate about Carmilla, Laura, Baobhan, etc., I'll wait until that gets itself sorted out to post anything definite. It's not quite as pressing an issue anyhow as Alucard/Dracula and Schro's true nature.
Also, neither anagram nor enigma is the word I am looking for. An enigma is what Alucard calls his name, but it is not what it is. I am looking for a term used to describe the exact reversal of one word to form another. Think 'mom' and 'dad'. Reversed they mean the same thing. Granted, Alucard and Dracula do not look the same reversed, but they mean the same being. Either way, that is the term elluding me. *mutters about being an English major and should bloody well know this*
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Sir_Catherine Vice Captain
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Posted: Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:14 pm
Sir_Catherine Thank you all for your input! Wow, more than I expected, to be honest.
Alright, I'll name Zorin and Rip as part of the Nazi Verwolf (sp?) unit, but it must be clear that they are not actual werewolves. Are we certain that Schro is also part of this unit, not just attached to Major? Is Captain part of this unit?
As far as the debate about Carmilla, Laura, Baobhan, etc., I'll wait until that gets itself sorted out to post anything definite. It's not quite as pressing any issue anyhow as Alucard/Dracula and Schro's true nature.
Also, neither anagram nor enigma is the word I am looking for. An enigma is what Alucard calls his name, but it is not what it is. I am looking for a term used to describe the exact reversal of one word to form another. Think 'mom' and 'dad'. Reversed they mean the same thing. Granted, Alucard and Dracula do not look the same reversed, but they mean the same being. Either way, that is the term elluding me. *mutters about being an English major and should bloody well know this* Palindrome?
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