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Leavaros

PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 6:23 pm


This is going to be a lot of information, okay? So get your minds on a tangent-less mode for a while and help me out. Please.

Alright. So I'm in two different PE classes this year (I need the credits to graduate). I haven't dressed out since middle-school, and even then, I dressed out in the back room.

I'm out. Way out. It's normally no big deal, but I've recently discovered my own personal hell. The locker room. It's one huge smelly, un-air-conditioned room filled with beautiful, half-naked, ultra-homophobic guys. My solution? Dress as quickly as possible. Look only at my feet. Think of bad, disgusting things, and not about all the cute butts bobbing around me. Then, get the hell out.

It's been a rough few weeks, emotionally and physically. Grandpa was diagnosed with cancer, again. He started chemotherapy yesterday. Senior Night is tonight. College Applications and the SAT. I'm not really getting a lot of sleep. My whole body aches from having two PE classes. Personal Fitness in the morning, Weight Training before lunch. Ugh.

But despite all this, I've earned some friends. It must be my sparkling personality or something, 'cause we don't talk intellectually, and I seriously suck at running and lifting. rolleyes

However, I think all that's just changed, today.

You see, I was in the locker room dressing back into my normal school clothes (today I was wearing this ultra cute green and brown ensemble), and I was just having some conversation with a certain boy, we'll call him...David, let's say, and David said something along the lines of "I'm so getting laid this weekend. What about you?"

"Umm.... No." I replied, with some hesitation. For the sake of conversation, I asked, "David? How do you work your gluts?" I'm still new to the whole Weight Training thing, after all, so it was an honest enough question. (Not to say that his butt isn't cute--there is a reason why I asked him.)

David: "Your...gluts?"

Another kid: "Your a**, David."

Me: "Uh, yeah, that."

David: "Why would you want to work that?"

Me: "To be a well-rounded person. Oh my god, no pun intended." Of all the times for accidental wit....

David and Kid laugh.

David: "Wait..." a pause "are you straight?"

Me: *gawk* "You mean you don't know?"

David: "Know what?"

Me: "I'm..."

My mind: Lie, damn you, lie like you've never lied before!

Little voice in corner: You know what you've gotta do.

My body: Frozen in indecision.

Me: "...Not straight."

Mind: Damn it. I'm outta here.

Conscience: Content

Body: Frozen in peril.

David: "Oh."

Kid: "Well, I guess he won't be getting laid, huh?"

Awkward laughs all around.

I can't move. I'm staring. I can't believe I just said that.

David: "Um...Bye."

I startle, mutter "Uh-huh, bye!" And run the hell out of there as fast as I can.

So. Morals? Is there ever a time where its okay to lie? Even at the price of your integrity? I mean, I managed to lay low for well over a month. It was going to come out sometime. I never tried to avoid it. Never planned on lying. Never intended to cover things up.

So why do I feel so...low? Like I've done something wrong?

Please...someone say something....

Love and Vale,
-Leavaros Dapple
PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 3:33 pm


My friend and I recently had a conversation pertaining to this, it seems... Tracey, my friend who heard this kid saying gay-bashing things, and I were talking about things like that.
She said that she hopes that the gay-bashing kid and his homophobic friends in Orchestra won't find out that our friend is gay. Now, I know that taunting and stuff is cruel, and I would never want our friend to get hurt and made fun of by him, but the gay friend I don't think is the kind of person who is tortured by his sexuality. He's having fun with his discovery of himself; recently I've found him flirting with other boys, and he's being more openly physical with the ones that know about him (the straight guys are actually cool with playing around with him and he has a bi guy-friend). I don't want him to become the center of jokes and a total target, but when Tracey said that, that she hopes that the gay-basher doesn't find out, I said that I hope he does; I hope that the gay friend overhears the gay-basher talking, and then tells him off about himself. Why? 'Cause not only does he have a good fifty or more pounds on the shorty, but I think it would be a lesson to him, that there are gay people at our majority-straight school who are offended by his speech and who won't tolerate it; it would be a real kick in the face.

Tracey and I are both insanely pro-homosexual and stuff, so I was actually surprised when she said she hoped our friend would hide. It's not like I think he should be pressured, if he's not ready to tell people I don't think he should, but he's got one foot out of the closet; it's a start. He's a senior in high school, anyway... Come on, everyone comes out their senior year.

BUT, that's actually pretty far-off from what you're talking about.
Before I start rambling again, I must say, ew. Two PE classes. I hate gym, but I started taking it in summer school, and that's where I met my good friends who go to other schools, and Tracey's boyfriend; I INTRODUCED THEM. But that sucks, I'm sorry you have to take 2 PE classes. D:
Alright, so...
About the lieing and being out or in or whatever. I've never really had a coming out story of my own, seeing as how I'm so unsure, but what I think... Is that if you aren't comfortable saying it yet, then it's not a big deal. Like, it's not disrespectful to not be out or anything... I think if you're not ready to tell people, then you shouldn't; or really, it all depends on how you feel. If it feels like you'd feel guilty for lieing, then tell the truth; if you're not comfortable with those people knowing, that's okay. That IS a tough one, though, the DIRECT approach, when people blatantly ask you your orientation.
I think that if you're already out, and that person just happens not to have tuned into that certain gossip yet, then it would just turn into a mess if you lied; they'd think you're straight, and then find out from someone else that you're not and confront you and things would just get hectic and weird. The part about feeling wrong saying it could've been a number of things. Maybe having to confirm it directly - because he hadn't heard it from other people, so he went straight to you, and that felt awkward, or maybe you were just dreading his typical straight boy (I'm assuming) reaction.


I'm not sure if that's very helpful at all, but it's my take on it. I kind of feel like I've just created a circle completely coming back to your original problem. ._.

Juria-San


Leavaros

PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 7:28 pm


That's okay. The first repetition, as they say, is still a first.

Well, as a writer, (and my mother would say a chronic hypochondriac,) I know very well how to bend the truth just enough to make it entertaining without being untrue.

That said, I hate lying. A lot. Especially when it could be avoided. Or when it could cause problems. And subtlety is not really...my forte, so to speak.

In a way, I'm glad this has all happened the way it has. David and I haven't spoken since Tuesday, and I'm going to apologize to him tomorrow (as I've found that even undeserved, apologies can be powerful tools, perhaps to lower one's guard or to soften their defenses) that he had to find out the way he did, and that I should have been more upfront with him in the first place, but that I don't know how "locker room etiquette" works, and being so far from my comfort zone (i. e., the bookstore, Gamestop, etc.), and having no friends in the class, that I let my shyness get the best of me.

It's an excuse, perhaps, but it explains my situation while avoiding calling anyone a homophobe, and it's honest. He really is a nice guy. I would hate to lose the possibility of friendship over awkwardness....

So...what do you think?

Love and Vale,
-LD
PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007 10:47 pm


Yeah, lying is something to avoid at all possible costs. Especially about something like that...
And the apology thing sounds like something I'd do or agree with. How'd he react?
If you don't mind giving undeserved apologies, that is. It is a good way to bring it up without just being like, "So, remember the other day when you found out I was gay...?" It's a way to sneakily bring something awkward out into the open and try to work through it. I don't know, to test the waters? Without blatantly saying it or immediately jumping to conclusions about how his reactions might be.

Ugh. I'm just not good in difficult situations. >< But, yeah... If he's just gonna freak out about nothing big, then he's more of a jerk than you thought, I suppose. But hopefully he will or has come to the realization that it's not something that has to be as awkward as it could be made, once you apologize, or 'apologize,' or whatever. Hopefully not a homophobe.
I hate it when that happens, you get close to someone, and like them pretty well, but then they realize that you're gay or even if you're just a gay supporter or you're involved in something pro-gay rights, and they turn into super b***h.

Juria-San


Leavaros

PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 6:46 pm


Well, he didn't turn into a "super b***h" (sorry, I couldn't resist!), but we really haven't talked much. I want to catch him alone and apologize properly, but...I don't think he wants to talk to me.

You know, it's kind of a shame. I feel like we were really starting to become friends, you know? And of course, I know that if he isn't okay with my sexuality, he isn't okay with me. But...a part of me really hopes that all this will blow over, and that we'll be okay again. It makes my heart heavy with conflicting emotions....

I have three quotes stuck in my head. The first two are from the great KareKano or for our more "FUNimated" friends, His and Her Circumstances: "[long list of emotions]...all these things exist behind the door of a classroom" and (when Miyazawa is coming out to her classmates as a real person and not a flawless student, and they give her a really hard time about it, she says): "I guess it can't be helped" (because she knows that she has to be true to herself).

The third is from the ultimate ani/manga of all time, Furuba or Fruits Basket. Remember when Tohru moves back to her grandpa's house and things are awkward between her and the Sohma's? And she says, quietly, simply, "That's it. I guess things won't be the same with me and Yuki and Kyo".

I don't know, Juria. I wish I could figure out what to say to him, that would repair what has been broken. I just feel so...helpless, I suppose. Like a puppet whose strings have been cut. Sad. Pained. Disconnected. Limp.

But not everything has been so depressing. This Friday I went to a friend's house (we'll call him "JD")(to escape my family), and then to another friend's house (he wanted to escape his family, too), where I met a lot of interesting people, albeit freshmen. And a really cute gay guy. Not really my type (I prefer older guys), but totally cute. We came home (to JD's house), and watched Miyazaki's Princess Mononoke (which is absolutely brilliant), and in the morning...well...it was a good morning. *winks all around*

Then Saturday I went out with a friend of mine to lunch, and we talked, caught up a bit, etcetera. Then I had a friend spend the night. That might have been overkill, 'cause I was exhausted today. *sighs* Such is the price for such an exhilarating weekend.

Love and Vale,
-LD
PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 6:18 pm


I'm sorry to hear that. There is a chance, though, that it will blow over. He might just be getting over the initial shock of knowing that someone he is/was/was becoming friends with is gay; probably something he's not used to being 'exposed' to. These things have a way of working out, no matter how cliche that sounds. I wish you the best of luck with it, though.
But I'm glad you're having fun and keeping your mind off of it. :33 And, wait... A gay freshman? Wow. I don't know, where I live there aren't many people who come out that early. But then, I've been introduced more to the gay community at my school lately.
Good weekend, much? I'm glad; mine was hectic, too. On Friday I went to this small amusement-park-like-thing with my best friend and a bunch of friends from Orchestra. We won a Foosball table for the orchestra room, and Tracey and I saw two girls holding hands and aw'd at them, and then Tracey, who had recently seen Moulin Rouge, sang a duet with our closeted gay friend and later squeal'd happily, saying, "I SUNG A DUET WITH A GAY MAN!," and we saw one of my friend's boyfriend who recently went to college. As soon as he got there, seemingly before he greeted his girlfriend, he picked up my other friend's boyfriend and lifted him onto the railing and started dry-humping him, which was an exciting part of the day. I quite enjoy the orchestra's sense of humor. (More random, but a car also caught fire in the parking lot, and that was creepeh.)
And a 'good morning'? I won't ask, but if it was 'good,' then kick a**. x3
OMIGAWD PRINCESS MONONOKE, yesss. heart That's what I have to say about that.
I know what you mean about the exhaustion thing... Friday night when I got home, totally about to fall asleep, I had to drive my grandma some places, 'cause my mom and grandma's work called, but my ma was drunk, we don't trust my grandma to drive, and my sister had work the next morning; okay, I don't even have my license (learner's permit), I'm fifteen, and I was out driving until midnight or one in the morning. Dx Then the next night I had two people over to spend the night, 'cause we hadn't seen each other in forever, and we ended up falling asleep at 1 am, which is, like, the earliest I've frikkin gone to sleep when having people over/sleeping over places.

I get out of line sometimes... Keep an eye on your friend, act casual around him, make eye contact and wave at him in the halls but don't approach him, and maybe eventually the talking will start back up... And, well, if he doesn't stop avoiding you, I guess he ain't worth it.
And about wanting to say something to him... Well, if you're feeling brave, I say you should. I don't know how many opportunities you have to be alone with him, and if he's avoiding you it doesn't help, but if you can, just corner him and ask if anything you said made him feel awkward or uncomfortable, or something. Like you said, you could even give a false, unneeded apology, for 'springing something so sudden and random on him.'

Juria-San


Leavaros

PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:50 pm


Well...technically, he opened up this can of worms. On me.

Not to say that it's entirely his fault--I chose honesty. And I really am upset that he had to find out that way. I don't think it would be a false apology if I gave it--it would be an apology for the situation without laying blame at anyone's feet.

And actually...things did resolve themselves, more or less. We're talking some again, I avoid looking at his perfect body in the locker room, and he shows it off in the weight room. *sigh* This is so very rote. I wish...I wish that things could go back with just us too, back to the way it had been before he found out.

But I can't have that. No one can.
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Haha, yeah, gotta love orchestra humor. And, yep, a gay freshman. And I met two others a week or so ago. They just keep popping up. Poor kids. Their going to be put through all nine levels of hell before high schools over, and a different sexuality is just another weight to wear on the way down. *sigh*

A 'good morning' indeed. Let's just say that I didn't eat breakfast. I was already full. And the poor boy--after I was done with him he was so energized that he couldn't fall back asleep.

Hmhmhmhm, well, I can have that effect on people, I suppose.
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If I can ask, what is your community like? In South Tampa, where I go to school, the environment is *mostly* gay friendly. It seems like everyone knows/is friends with at least one LGBT person. All the cute preppy girls want to be a faghag. All the hardcore guys want a lesbian buddy to work out with. And every skater/emo/goth wants to have a bi BFF, (for varying reasons, but) because let's face it: friends help each other out.

I mean, I guess I'm pretty lucky. The people who aren't tolerant of the LGBT community get more s**t than we do, and more from the straight population than from us! heart Tee-hee!

Love and Vale,
-LD
PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 6:49 pm


I'm sorry to hear that... Well, I'm glad that it's at least better, but I know that it's kinda awful to know that you can't have something back the way it used to be. I guess it's unavoidable, things becoming weird sometimes when we reveal something or when someone finds out something about us. I remember one of my best friends telling me she had a crush on me, back before I questioned my sexuality at all, as a matter of fact, back when I was still getting over... Um, well, being homophobic, because there was in fact a point in time when I was homophobic. And when she told me I kinda freaked. That was three years ago; I started avoiding her then, but when we were put into the same gym class the next semester, we began talking again, but not near as much as we had been. Now a days, she's more like someone who I'll sit next to at lunch if I have no other acquaintances or someone I might or might not wave to in the halls.
I'm really sorry. May things be the best that they can be with it.

Daaang. A lotta gay freshmen. I know it'll suck coming out to people at a new school, or just plain coming out period if they're closeted, but, well, I think it's pretty cool that they're being honest and accepting so early on in life.
About the good morning... Yeah, I'm not even gonna touch on that. xD Good for you, though.

I don't mean to become an easy target for stalkers, but I really don't mind stating my location at all... And, well, this is gonna sound horrible... But, yes, I live in the SOUTHERN south: Texas. It's not AS racey as you'd think, though... It sounds strange, but sometimes I actually stop and think, Holy hell, am I actually IN Texas? Just because I guess that even I'm so used to stereotypes. I haven't ridden a horse more than like ten times in my life, I don't live near farms, we drive on paved streets and not dirt roads, and there's a downtown. To my knowledge, I don't think I even have a Texas drawl. I DO say y'all and ain't, but... I don't know. Some people say I just don't notice it 'cause I'm used to it, and that's probably true.
I'm not *entirely* sure what the reaction to homosexuality is in general here, but I believe what you'd expect it... Whenever the person would announce club activities over the loudspeaker, and the Gay-Straight Alliance would come up, everyone would exchange looks like, 'Did I just hear correctly?' Some would actually ask, "Did he just say 'gay'?" I remember last year, in my Science class, getting really, REALLY pissed but not saying anything (kinda a wallflower), when the stoners in my class were talking about how wrong being gay is. I nearly wanted to b***h slap the girl who defended the gays... Gay males, that is. I don't know, I just have a thing about guys who only like lesbians and are grossed out by gay guys and girls who like to hang out with gay guys but think lesbians are disgusting.
There is a large handful, perhaps more than you'd expect in a Texas area, who are very open-minded and tolerant. Then again, I could probably count the amount of open-minded people I know. I know of a guy in my friend's class last year who was out as a freshman, and I know of one out gay sophomore, one closeted senior, two out senior boys one of which is my neighbor, a girl who is either lesbian or bi (she seems to 'change' it a lot), two bi girls who lean toward women, a bi girl that's currently celebrating a year with a boy, a junior who I'm fairly certain is gay (he was talking about having sex with Orlando Bloom today, randomly enough), a bi guy with the same name as the gay sophomore, and they ironically used to date. Then, there are the three girls at my lunch table who are pro-homosexual, the girl at my table who is okay with homosexulity but opposes gay marriage (religious), the boy who may or may not be gay is a supporter, and the guys who know about the closeted senior friend are actually okay with it and seem to let him flirt with them a lot more (they used to act gay sarcastically before he came out). One of his bi friends in particular, even though he has a girlfriend.
Our GSA is now called Orientation-Nation. My grandfather once complained that he didn't know why I'd get college credit for joining a 'f** club' when my sister explained that joining clubs looks good on college applications (in fairness, my parents are homophobic racists, so I guess I really am in Texas), my friend's mother ripped up the permission slip when she brought it home, and one of my other friend's mother gets nervous when she wears her rainbow belt. Then again, she has been asked by a Starbucks worker guy if she was family. That was pretty cool.
It's pretty homophobic, but not TOTALLY. I can only remember one instance in which someone was gay-bashed... My neighbor who is currently a senior came out when he was in fifth or sixth grade, and when he was in seventh grade, he got beat up by an eighth-grader because he was wearing a pin with a rainbow on it.

Juria-San


Leavaros

PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:33 pm


Yeah...it's a real shame that things are the way they are, you know? What would the world be like if we could just get over our petty disputes and revel in our differences rather than be disgusted by them. What would the world be like if just once....

Well. I was homophobic too, my freshman year, but...that stopped. Abruptly. Around the time that I figured out that I was gay. *sigh* I guess it used to take a jarring of my universe before I rethought some things....

If I may, I'd suggest trying to repair that old friendship between you and the girl. I've always tried to right old wrongs, and it's served me well in the past.

Yeah, I agree. It is good that kids are feeling increasingly more okay with their sexuality, to the point of being out so early.

I wouldn't expect you to comment on the morning. Though, were you to do so, I wouldn't hide anything--after all, talking about it afterwards is half the fun, right?

Girl, I am so sorry. I thought I had it bad down here in Florida (some days), I couldn't imagine having to go through my life in Texas. Do you guys even have palm trees there? I can't live without my palm trees. It's really no wonder you aren't out yet. I don't think I would be either. It must be a tremendously stressful environment you live in. Do you want to move out when you're eighteen, go somewhere far, far away?

Hehe, yeah, we have to repeat ourselves down here quite a bit, too. And, yeah, we have our little groups of anti-gays, too. Not our stoners, though. They're pretty cool, actually, aside from the smoking. (I hate the smell of pot.) And yeah, we have those specified people, too. Less than when I was younger, though. Thankfully.

Well, gay-bashing aside, it sounds like you've cultivated a nice little niche of LGBT friends and family. Which is good. But don't forget to make friends with people who share other interests as well--for me, it's a constant battle not to become completely centered on my sexuality. I'm me first. Then I'm gay. And a writer.

Love and Vale,
-LD
PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 2:09 pm


I know what you mean. The world today is a bit ******** up. Let me know if anything changes, though, between you and your friend... Like if it becomes less awkward. Sometimes it just takes a while to get over the initial shock; in gym, along with my female bi friend who had a crush on me, we had a group of good friends, and when she told them that she was lesbian (well, back then she was claiming to be lesbian; she changes it a lot, it seems), there was some awkwardness, quietness, and lack of eye contact, but after a while, it was just like normal in the locker rooms. Then again, they were a grade ahead of me, and when they went to high school, I was labeled as the supposed lesbian of the locker room, and then there was a LOT of harassment. But, yeah... o_o

Oh, my goodness, you make me feel a bit better. I MEAN, it's never good to be homophobic, but it always made me feel like such a horrible person, because I used to be a homophobe. I just had a lot of problems a few years ago. At twelve I was homophobic, angry, and a bit suicidal, obsessed with hate. I refuse to use that word any more, actually, hate. But anyway...

Yeah, I don't know... She was one of my best friends when I was in middle school, but honestly, I'm not quite sure what I saw in her as a friend. I know that sounds horrible, but... Well, there is one type of person in this world that above all others, I just can NOT stand: Arrogant people. And in the past few years, that's how she has become, very much so.

>< Yeah, I suppose so, half the fun being talking about it afterward. It would be. Um. I honestly wouldn't know. But yeah. I wouldn't be freaked out or anything if you talked about it. I'm just a bit awkward sometimes.

Oh, no, I didn't mean to make it sound that bad! I love where I am right now. I mean, honestly, I'm indifferent about it, but I'd be thankful and content wherever I was born and raised. Sometimes I do feel a pang of regret, 'cause my dad was born in New York, and my mom in California (hehe, they met in the middle), and New York City and Los Angeles would be, like, the two number one places I'd want to be in America. As for palm trees... I'm not quite sure. I think I remember being in the car with my friends, and they randomly started freaking out 'cause we never remembered seeing palm trees there before, and they were just... There. Probably fake, though. And I don't think my being out or not has anything to do with where I am... Well, maybe it does. But the thing is, I just don't want to declare myself one thing and then discover later how wrong I was. That's why I never even confirm that I'm straight. I don't know if I'm straight, lesbian, trans, whatever, so I just remain, uh... Neautral? Yeah, sure... But really, next year I'm gonna be a junior and my sister's gonna be out of high school. Like I told my friend once, if I *was* lesbian, I could stand up in the middle of the cafeteria during lunch and announce that I was homosexual, but not with my sister there; I don't want my family knowing anything about that. Too ignorant. So all I have to do is wait one more year before I came out if need be.
And I don't think I'm moving away when I'm eighteen... Not even just the money problems, but I've grown sickeningly and depressingly attached to my redneck state. If I got the chance, I might leave, but not immediately. I think that when I'm out of high school I'm gonna move into my late father's abandoned house with my best friend. The homosexuality issue isn't all that shapes my views of my home-state... There are other things. Family. Friends. Where I grew up. I guess it's not really that important to a lot of people. My sister was planning on moving to Germany right after high school, she's so sick of this place.

Like you said, you're you before you're gay... We aren't defined by our sexualities... And this place is my home before it's an ignorant gay-prosecuting wasteland. I wouldn't mind getting away, though.

Oh, on a totally random note, my friend and I just HAD to celebrate this little fact... Our homecoming is coming up, and they were announcing the courts... And one of the guys who was nominated for the sophomore position is gay. It felt slightly like progression... All the boys were freaking out, like, But he's gay, and he'd need to bring a date.

Juria-San


Leavaros

PostPosted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 6:31 pm


Oh my god, that's wonderful! I would vote him in as prom queen, pun intended.

Umm.Interestingly enough, most people can't meet my eyes. Odd, yeah? I think personally that they are disturbed by the terrible knowledge there, the burdensome wisdom, the grievous strength, but...perhaps it's only passion and openness that drive others from my vision. Certainly I would not put it past thought.

Yeah, things are gradually growing less awkward, one day at a time. I suppose that's all anyone can really ask for, and expect. *sigh* I just wish it would go quicker, you know?

On another note, I used to be very arrogant. Every once in a while, it comes out again. Don't write us off just because we aren't easy to understand, Miss Juria--many of the strongest, smartest, wisest people I know have a bad tendency towards arrogance.

And...I think we all have certain...times in our lives when we go a little crazy. I know that I refuse to use the word 'hate' now, also. That in itself is a wonderful thing. But I've gone a step farther--I try to use 'love' in true terms. Terms that sometimes make people uncomfortable. But there it is. I've even been playfully teased by friends as being a 'love freak'. I suppose I am--just read my journal.

Uh, well, I don't really care. For me and my friends, talking about our dates is simply a matter of course. I would never want to make you feel awkward, Miss Juria.

And...I think I do understand the connection to your home you have, because I have that for my home. There are a hell-of-a-lot of things I'd change, had I the power to do so, but it's still home. I can't imagine living anywhere else. And I don't really want to--this is where I belong.

About your sexuality, that's really between you and yourself. But...one day it just kind of crept up on me. I was lying on my bed, quiet, breathing softly in the darkness, and I said it, the admittance of what I then considered a dark sin: "I'm gay." It filled the room, with an eerie quiet, a deep silence of spirit and mind and body, and I knew, irrevocably, unchangeably, that that was what I was. No confusion, no nightmarish quarrels of self, no ambivalence, no fighting it. I'm gay. And that's that.

I felt this...this power flow through me, this strength that I never knew I had consumed me. I was gay! I had admitted it, and I felt a flush of future pain and sorrow and hardship, but also a strange pride that I was me and that no one and nothing could change that, save by my leave. I was in control, at least, of accepting myself.

Things got a lot easier from there. Writing prospered, words flowed from my pen like water from an undammed lake, my music became stronger, even my body showed signs of health I never expected--natural highlights in my hair, and shiny hair, and evener skin, and a glow that defies all blemishes. Not because I'm gay. Because I accepted what I am. And I could focus on who I was becoming.

In a way, it's a revelation. One that most straight people--even most bisexuals--never truly come to. There is an inner peace to letting you be you without condition. I think it's something everyone come to in their own way, and more times than not, it has nothing at all to do with sexuality. Spirituality, religion, political belief, acceptance of a rejected truth--these are all similar and dissimilar revelations that we have. Innovation, my dear, is a wonderful thing.

Was that off-topic...? Oh, I remember: you just have to find what fits you, or let you be you. I was lucky enough to find both, and relatively early, I'd say. After all--no one should let their sexuality dominate their existence.

Love and Vale,
-LD
PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 3:07 pm


Goodness gracious, I am sorry that it's been so long! I do quite enjoy conversations with you; just been a hectic week. ._.

Yeah, he's a sophomore, so their positions would be duke and duchess. I was talking to another guy the day he was nominated, and the guy, "Yeah, he got nominated for duchess." And I was just like... Don't go there. x3

That is rather odd. I suppose the realization of someone 'different' is a bit unsettling to most people. Randomly, though, I've discovered that I can't make eye contact with people in general who I do not know well. One of the girls from my orchestra class, I actually ROOMED with her on the class trip, but I don't know her very well, so when I see her in the halls, I find myself staring at her shoulder when I say hi.

That's understandable. I'm glad that it's slightly better, though, if that's all one could hope for.

Ahh... Yes, I suppose. I just can't help but be slightly annoyed by arrogant people. In perfect honesty, I'm probably enough so as people wouldn't want to stand me, but I still can't help it. People like that. I mean, it's the people who act like they think they're better than you because they know stuff and flaunt it as often as possible. Hah. I don't know. ><

Yeah... A crazy time. I don't think that I've used 'hate' (at least not so often) since sixth or seventh grade; I just felt that it was an emotion beyond my comprehension, that I just didn't have it in me to feel such strong dislike for someone. And maybe I go a bit overboard, but since I was little, my mother has taught me not to say that word, that it connotated too many bad things, death, even. I know that people don't normally think about wanting someone dead when they say that they hate someone, but... I take it a step further, I guess. I think that if you hated someone, you wouldn't care if they were erased from the world. I don't think there is anyone I know personally (even if they're just someone in one of my classes that I've never spoken to) whose death I would not cry over. As for the 'love' part... Ack, I don't know, I think I use it too easily. I mean, well, I've never really had anyone who I would say it to in THAT sort of way (I may or may not be a virgin, a kiss-virgin, or have even ever had a real crush/boy[/girl]friend), and I think I'm one of my few friends who hasn't felt at one point in time that I was in love (personally, I think we're too young, my friends and I), but in a friendly way, I tell people perhaps too often that I love them. My friends from summer school that I met, just three months ago, I've already stated that I include them in the circle of loved friends. It doesn't really seem like such a big deal, not like saying that you're IN love with someone in an intimate way, but still... Perhaps I shouldn't be so free-spirited with that word? Oh, and I just must include, my sister, two years older than me, ten years smarter than me, she's done it before, said that she is in love with someone she so clearly isn't. This is the kind of person who is a virtuoso cellist, and when it comes to GPA, she's about one- or two-hundred people from the top in her 9oo-student senior class. It was quite a pity to learn that even people like that can lose track of their emotions. This boy, she knew him for about two months before they started dating, three months before they started fooling around, and were only together for about four months. She claimed that after they ended it because he was moving states, she was still in love with him. That just seems irresponsible to me...

That's what I'm saying... It's my home, at least, right now it is. And it's also fun for people to be startled and confused by because believe it or not, Texas stereotypes are not all true!

You know what I've been thinking lately, is that maybe that's the problem. So many people have coming out stories, or experiences similar to yours: S/he was GAY, and nothing was right anymore, because at that point in his/her life, it was something dispicible and frowned upon. It was a realization they had to work through. But me, it would be different. Seeing as how I'm already active in the gay community, and I suppose admittedly "hetero-flexible" if nothing else, it's hard to decipher where I am. It's hard to tell where I draw the line between supporter or homosexual, because I'm so used to it. It wouldn't be a big shocking discovery that I wished I could work against, it would just be, Hey, I think I'm gay, cool. I don't know, that kinda makes it more difficult, maybe? I'm not sure.

Haha, only slightly off-topic. That's really neat, though. Another problem I think I might have is the connotations of the word 'bi.' Here comes the good ol' Texas ignorance, but I just really don't think I would be able to accept it if I was bi, like so many people seem to assume of me and I seem to act like I lean towards. There are two things associated with the thought of bisexuality in girls that I just HATE, and I know, I know, I'm not biphobic, but I would hate to be associated with. One, is promiscuity, and the fact that many assume that bi girls are just girls who will make out with other girls to get guys off. HATE that. And the other one, which is the one that would be more-so associated with me... Is that they're just girls that can't always find guys to love them because they're unattractive, so they resort to other girls, seeing as how they're usually more dependent on the emotional than the physical.

But on a completely different subject, random hilarious anecdote time! I started talking to this bi boy in my Biology class, he goes by Shota. Yes, Shota, and if you're an Anime nerd, you probably know what that means... But I was talking to him and this other girl, and I think she's trying to set him up with another bi boy, or something, because they talk about him a lot, but not directly (I guess they don't want me to know 'cause they don't kow how I'd react), so they've never said it straight black and white; however, I think I know the other boy they speak of, and he's bi. But I was talking to Shota, and he was randomly talking about how he wanted to do this yaoi plot involving Homecoming (everyone's talking about and thinking about Homecoming because it's getting close), so he told me to give him two boys' names and a girl's name, and he would explain it to me. I thought for a few minutes, and the first name I gave him was the name of my closeted senior friend, and the second one was a BIT more random, but it's the name of my friend's boyfriend (and my sister's boyfriend, and a boy in my geometry class, and my other friend's nickname; just a common name); I remembered once, when my mom was looking at pictures I had taken during summer school, she saw my friend's boyfriend, and said, "He looks gay." And his ex-girlfriend, the last two guys before him that she's dated have come out since they broke up with her. So I just went with it... The girls' name was just totally random, because I think that the name Logainne/Login/Logan is just really pretty for a girl. But anyway. We were leaving Biology, and he was telling me the plot. The halls were crowded, and ironically enough, I looked up, and a certain senior friend of mine was walking toward me. Whent Shota paused in his explanation, I said hi to my senior friend loudly, and I said his name. He patted me on the head and kept walking past me, and when I looked back at Shota, he was looking at me with this crazy expression. I thought that was hilarious, and it was the highlight of my day.

Juria-San


Leavaros

PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:43 pm


Cute story! Real funny.

Okay, where to start....

It has been a while since last we spoke, Juria. In the time we've been apart, grandpa's cancer has spread to his bones, and we found out that he has about 12-18 months to live, give or take a few. SO. MUCH. DRAMA. Yikes.

In other events, school's going pretty well, with the exception of a certain other boy, one Steven, by name, who I still think plays for my team (and ironically, he's in my PE class). Complications are sure to arise as tension mounts. Things are going a little better with David, but not much. We say hi, occasionally make small talk, but that's it. Maybe things will get easier with time. Who's to say? Henson (Latin teacher/god) was proven right Friday when the school had a brownout (partial blackout) and people were signing out in mass: when I needed to be strong and forceful, I was. And I liked it. A lot. And he was right about working out, too--I'm starting to feel better. And I'm starting to look better, too. Even as intelligent and insightful, hell, even foresightful as I am, being fit--being pretty--is an entirely foreign concept to me.

Tangent #1: On Beauty

You know, I never expected it. I'm pretty smart. My vocabulary rivals Webster's Dictionary, and my word choices are nothing short of excellence. I have *some* musical ability, and consider myself pretty well-versed when it comes to music, as the only things I refuse to listen to are country and rap, no matter what the lyrics are about. I've studied religion and philosophy, the human heart and mind, the inner workings of society and biology, science and faith, even certain mathematical theorems. I've written poems that have made grown men weep, written characters out that people have sworn are more real than their own siblings (does it count of I said it?), given advice that has saved relationships and lent a shoulder to cry on. I consider myself to be an increasingly kinder person, and certainly I'm not getting any meaner, I'm strong (both of head and of spirit, pun intended), and there's a definite honesty to me, an openness that is in itself opening. Like a golden thread.

But even with all of my gifts and blessings, my talents and skills, I can't think of myself--can't even believe in the possibility of me being--handsome, or beautiful, or even pretty.

I am like sturdy Hephaestus, in no regards beautiful, yet strong of heart and mind, creating beauty for others to bear, that will live on for me. But I will never be beautiful Venus with all of her wiles and grace, I will never be Ares or Apollo, strong of body and sweet of voice. Perhaps I can be like Hera, powerful if not beautiful, strong if not sweet; or like Athena, wise and crafty and talented, if not a rival to Venus' looks. But most likely I will be poor Tiresias, the blind prophet doomed to walk the world forever (or at least old Greek stories), or damned Cassandra, the prophetess blessed with true visions and cursed with others' disbelief.

Even the possibility of beauty, you see, runs counter to the foundations of my life.

End of Tangent #1

Yeah, you and this girl rooming could present problems. I could see why you would look at her shoulder, but...on the other hand, do you think you could be hurting her feelings? Maybe she wants to be your friend, or wants to get to know you. Maybe there's something more. The way I see it, the more you have trouble meeting someone's eyes, the more you need to meet them, and to get to know them. It's one of the most humanizing elements I know, meeting someone's eyes openly. There's something raw and earthy, and yet somehow...more divine, in an exchanged look than in any number of sideways glances.

Tangent #2: On Love, Mostly:

Well, it's good you don't use hate as often. I try not to wish death upon people, but I remain adamant that certain individuals--myself included--should not breed. Some people just have poor genes, others don't have parenting skills, or the strength (and/or) wisdom to raise a child. I don't have good genes, or patience. The first is because of long-term genetic imprinting (going back generations upon generations), the second by my very nature.

Now love, on the other hand, is something that needs to be spread around. Sure, some people won't respect you, some refuse love, but in the words of Natasha Bedingfield, "The more seeds you plant/ The more flowers will grow/ So pick up the love/ Till it overflows.". That's kind of my way of doing things--I aim for kindness and respect and admiration. I try to avoid unnecessary fights and looking like a sycophant (in all cases except with Henson and Christene, and read the journal for more details).

Remember, love isn't necessarily romantic. I love my parents and grandparents adn even my little brother, though we get into fights all the time. I love them because we've been through too much not to love one another.

I love my friends in another way, in a clean way, without lust or the complications of family. I love the simpleness of being with them, and the complexity of some of our conversations. I love lunch with them together, and books and coffee with them individually. I love having parties with them, where all of my friends can meet one another, and forget cliques, if only for a night.

I love my teachers and my mentors in another way, in a half-worshipful way. No lust, no walls, just respect and pride and admiration, and you know what? It almost always comes back in that wonderful sharing of hearts, that eye-meeting. I enjoy talking to them about everything, the happy things and smiling, the sad things and crying, both smiling and crying, actually, the funny things and the sick things and laughing, the hard things and thinking, the easy things and breathing. There's no word for the feeling I get after having a heart-warming, -wrenching, -tearing, conversation with an older friend, a warm, soulful feeling that runs all the way through me to my core, like sunlight through shadows. I never want to lose that.

And I love those I lust after in another way. There's a respect there, an admiration that is tangible. It isn't always physical, or just: I'm attracted as much by what's inside as by what's outside. But there's another level of expression there that most people don't reach outside of a relationship, and I don't mean just sex. There's a raw equality that forms between him and me, and we have our whole lives to figure it out. An equality made just for him, and for me, our relationship the clay and us to mold it, our piece of paper to write our verses on. It isn't just sex, it isn't just reproduction, somewhere along the way we lose our pronouns and our original function and we become something else. I've seen it happen, I've watched it happen, two people blending. And just as the individuals are different, so are the relationships. Each is beautiful in its own way, each sweet and sour in varying amounts, each slightly dysfunctional and as imperfect as the two beings that make it.

Sweet, wondrous love is what I serve, this magical, living thing between you and I and the whole world.

End of Tangent #2

Well, I never expected tat story to be unique. I've watched a number of Coming Out Stories on Logo, and most of them sound pretty similar. I don't know how people can watch them on TV: I have so many questions to ask, and the boob tube doesn't answer!

"Hetero-flexible"...? *sigh* I think I've heard that one before. Look. Don't say you aren't something because you don't like certain girls who also claim that preference. Be true to yourself, but don't be afraid to be a maverick. You're special, Juria, unique, and I daresay moreso than most. Just be yourself--you'll be fine. I'm sure you'll make friends and discover yourself--it's who you are to question things, and while that may drive some people away, it will bring others closer, and your natural warmth, your kindnesses and your gentle cares will mean all the world to others, your tenacity will win over people you've never expected to, and all of these might even attract a special someone who you can feel okay saying the "L" word to (No pun intended). It is my dearest wish for you that you find out who you are and what you are, and that I am proven right in time.

Love and Vale,
-LD
PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 2:45 pm


I'm very sorry to hear about your grandfather. The struggle of having or having a loved one with cancer is indeed dramatic and to say depressing would be almost too insensitive a word to describe, an experience I'm not quite certain how to relate to. Personally, I lost my father to cancer, but he died a few days after my second birthday, so I have no memory of it. All I know is, fourteen years later, and I think my mom's still getting over it, and still expecting him to come back. I'm sorry.

I'm glad that school's going well, though. It's good that you're feeling better (everyone deserves to be able to feel good about themselves physically at some time), and that your strengths were tested and proven, that you were able to be proud of yourself. What is it with this Stephen that happens to be bothersome, though?

I know what you mean; I would never be able to put into such poetic and flowing words or allud to mythology, but beauty, pretty, being attractive, it's something that I don't believe is possible when it comes to myself. I imagine a lot of people feel the same way. I suppose it should be considered a good thing, that you're becoming happy about your outer appearance, feeling better about yourself, but I can understand how it stirs up such confusion, perhaps even guilt (but that one might just be me, actually). Really, it's a topic I have not much voice or opinion on at all. Just try not to see it as something so shocking and surprising, that you can look in the mirror and see something other than what you once did.

Oh, I didn't mean to make it sound so... I don't know, weird? Our rooming together was fine. Well, actually, it was a little awkward, us and two other girls rooming together, because the other three of us, it was our first year to go on a class trip, so we all didn't really know each other very well. There were two full-sized beds and a couch; two of the other girls each slept in a different bed, the other girl slept on the floor, and I on the couch. We just weren't comfortable with each other yet because we didn't know each other very well. It just somewhat surprised me that I managed to spend four days in the same room with someone, and yet still I'm too however I am to meet her eye. Then again, she did spend most of the time with her boyfriend. About hurting her feelings, maybe, I don't know. We don't really ever have time to talk, she's not in my class anymore, I usually just see her in the mornings when I'm leaving the orchestra room and she's going to put her instrument up. We usually say hi, and I'll talk to her casually if she's hanging out after school like she was today. Besides, we're both kind of similar in the way that at certain times, when out of our comfort zones, we're total wallflowers, but then with people we know, we become loud and fun. I kind of think that to each other we're both just a foot out of our comfort zones.

Yeah, as a matter of fact, though, I actually feel really guilty about the fact that until recently, there was ONE person whom I claimed to have hatred for. He was senior last year when I was a freshman, so he just graduated. He's friends with my sister, although not good friends, and he's the only person who has made me cry during school. He's just a horrible person. He has two other friends, one his best friend who I don't like because he's pretty much an a** as well, the other because he should have graduated last year and yet he dates impressionable freshmen girls, usually breaks up with them when they won't put out. It really sickens me that those four are going to be renting out my father's empty house, when I know that the one I claimed to hate and his best friend at the least are potheads. The thought of them smoking pot in the house where my father died is sickening. And yet, I still feel guilty about having said the word 'hate' about him.
You're the second person I've heard make a statement like that, that certain people shouldn't breed, but my sister said it in a more humorous manner. She believes neither me nor her should breed, because we have bad vision and wear glasses, had to have braces as children, and all the things like that; she says only 'perfect' people should breed. As for love, I agree that love is something that should be spread world-over, but I have come to the perhaps childish conclusion long ago that I was going to prevent myself from ever falling in love, getting married, or having children. I feel bad, because I'm supposed to be a girl, and girls my age are usually obsessed with babies and small children, but... They make me sick. That's a bit harsh, I can stand them sometimes, but for the most part, I just really don't like kids and I don't want to have kids. Marriage, more recently, I've decided that is something I won't do. I remember once, a straight boy I was talking to said that he believed in gay-marriage, because marriage is about love, not about gender. I know I sound crazy, but in my mind, the way I see it, marriage isn't about love; it's not about gender. Closed-minded people think that only men and women should marry, and most people think that marriage is based on love, but in my mind, it's nothing but responsibility. I'm just being... well, myself, but I don't want that. Then, love. I would want to fall in love. Like any other human being on the earth considered the conformity known as normal, I would like to experience falling in love. It just feels like something I don't deserve. I can't help but love so many people, in my friends and family sort of way, but I'm never going to fall in love, I decide that firmly.

I suppose not exactly 'unique,' but it's still something one goes through. Coming out stories do sound pretty simliar most of the time, now that you mention it. It just wouldn't be like Erich, the half-outed gay senior friend I so oft mention. He had the moment where he told one person, and for a long time there was that one person who held your biggest secret, and then later, he gathered all his friends together to announce that he was coming out.

I'm sorry, a stupid word, right? Egh. I suppose you're right. You're right. You're probably right. It's not that big a deal right now. Just today, I learned that someone in my only on-level class - aka, the class where I have to be scared of everyone being druggies or gangsters - is bisexual, and two other girls are actually okay with lesbians (being a wallflower, no one notices when conversations carry toward you). Last year, that was the class in which everyone was talking about how disgusting homosexuality is. And then a few nights ago, I was talking to my grandfather about a neighbor my grandfather assumes is gay (not kidding, he HAS been right about gay neighbors before), because of the way he acts, and I pointed out that I supposedly acted butch but I wasn't lesbian. He said in response that I wasn't old enough to be considered anything yet, and basically said that either way, he'd still love me. So I guess that that's kind of progress. I know, that the ripe old age of sixteen is the definition of wild crazy teenager, when the hormones kick in and virginities are lost, but I still kind of believe that sometimes that isn't old enough to know who you are. Either way, I was glad to hear that.


In today's happenings, I think Erich is officially considered out. My sister's boyfriend knows (without being disgusted and freaked out), and while she was drinking apple juice she randomly said something about 'gay fuel,' which dates back long ago as an orchestra inside joke, and with other people around, I think Erich made his first open joke about his sexuality in front of people. I heard a girl in Biology telling the bi boy in my class to ask out this guy she's been trying to set him up with. I've formally introduced myself to a gay sophomore friend of my best friend's. And then at lunch, the boy who we suspected was gay confirmed it for us. I'm phasing once again into the happy 'is this really Texas?' period of time.

Juria-San


Leavaros

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 7:48 pm


I'm glad things are going well for you, Juria. Just a quick update, and then I'll go from top to bottom....
-----
UPDATE!

Schedule changes are upon us--Steven switched out of PE, a bunch of people switched into a number of my other classes. Things fall apart, and come back together, too.

I was out two days last week with a fever, and have a number of tests to make up. And almost certainly, an untenable amount of homework. Fun.

Still unused to the attention. I keep getting hit-on in school. By guys and girls. I don't know what they see in me--I'm not pretty at all, and I'm eccentric, at best. Today, a friend of mine, Dani, came into the Media Center (I TA third period), and wanted to print something out. Austin (another TA) asked for the password, and she said "Drew's a cutie". I rolled my eyes. I know she's joking, but I play along. Then in Weight Training, we were sitting in the bleachers because of picture day, and this kid came up to me and said that his friend, another guy--wearing an orange tee, of all things--liked me. I blew it off, thinking God, what is this? Third grade? If he really liked me, he would come talk to me.

Aside from that, nothing's new. It's just the same old grind. Day after day. Day after day after day.
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I didn't know that both of us have lost a parent to cancer. Mine was my mother. Oh, Juria, you would have loved her--strong and smart and charismatic and caring. A better me. And older. And female. She died two years ago, on May 4th, 2006. She had been diagnosed the November before with a rare kidney cancer in advanced stages. It was a death sentence. If you don't mind me asking, what cancer took your father?

No, Stephen wasn't a bother. As you put it before (or later, rather), with that girl, Stephen's just a little outside my comfort zone. Cute (and ripped!), male, way too smart for his own good--it's no wonder he put me off-balance.

Well, I don't know about that. Writing just takes some time and practice, a little talent and a lot of skill. I'm sure that, given focus, your words would positively shine.

Ah, I see. Well, that explains it--you and she are a little too much for one another. Even so, I'm glad to see that you're still trying to bridge the gap. It's important to do.

The Preston Story

Yeah, I've been there with the hate thing. My freshman year, there was this senior guy in my Speech class who...was overly affectionate. I wasn't out yet, and even if I had been, I think he still would have annoyed me. As it was, he terrified me. Not because he was built like a bulldozer and ripped like a good pair of jeans, but because I liked it when he did something. I hated him for rousing this beast inside me. I loathed him for being a jock with the body of a Greek God. For turning me on. I remember choosing baggier shorts for the rest of the year after I met him. Damn.

But I began feeling guilty about all the things that had happened. More guilty then for liking another guy. It sucked. I just got this gnawing feeling in my gut every time I thought of him. Turns out, we're neighbors. He lives three houses down from me. I pass by there every time I walk to the park. Who would have guessed?

Fate intervened. I saw him outside. I faced down my fears and worries and apprehensions and guilt, and talked to him. I apologized for everything that had happened, and he did the same for antagonizing me. I asked if we could start over and he nodded, relieved. A few months later, I told him why he put me off so easily. He had no idea. (And I don't know how he didn't, but another story for another day.) I became friends with his mother, and fell in love with the family dog, Rosco. I don't even like dogs. Everything turned out really, really well.
~~~~~

On Love and Family and Self

You're confusing gender with gender roles. You can be very female without liking children. Gods, look at Marilyn Monroe. I don't know about marriage--I think it means something different for each person--but personally, I think it's about commitment. Not responsibility, but genuine, mutual sharing. Of time, of lives, of everything. One devotes himself to his partner. "In sickness in health", and all that jazz. Believe me when I say I know about responsibility.

Take family for example. I'm responsible for them, just as my grandparents are for me. But even so, when Mama was alive, when she got sick...it didn't feel like a burden I was forced to bear. I cared for her because I loved her. It isn't the same at all.

And I think you're wrong, Juria. You do deserve love--all of us do, or none of us. You choose--are you priceless (like I believe you to be), or are you worthless? If you have the capacity to love, then you have the capacity to be loved, too. I think that in time you will find the truth in these things.

...You know, Juria, in many ways we are very similar. I once swore off romanticism, too, thinking it was a petty waste of time. But I soon found that romanticism--that romantic love--gave me little choice in the matter. From the favorite poet of Morrie Schwartz, "Love one another or perish". So seemed to be the key here. I have studied many religions, and all reserve a special place for Love. Perhaps it is only a personal belief, but I think that the only true blasphemy is the refusal of Love.

I never choose the easy way out--it's been killing me for three years now.
~~~~~
Well, I'm glad that Texas is becoming less...right-winged. And I'm glad your grandfather is so accepting of who you are. It's good to have that kind of figure in your life.

But...I'm not sure about that "old-enough" bit. I knew I was gay for a long time. My aunt and uncle on my mom's side--her roommates from college, actually--said that they knew I was gay from an infant. I don't doubt them--they're sharp.

Well, I'm glad about your friend. It'll do him good to get everything out in the open. Just make sure he grabs a way cute outfit for me on the way out of the closet! wink

Dorothy: "Toto, I don't think we're in [insert mid-Western state here] anymore."

Toto: "No, the midgets and emerald city and golden-brick road are just parts of the new Gay Pride Parade."

Dorothy: "And the lion, tinman, and scarecrow?"

Toto: "Cats cosplayer, and drag kings."

Dorothy: "Well, it's a nice change from the Dust Bowl. Wait...are those flying monkeys?"

Toto: "Evil flying monkeys. They're attending the wicked witch float."

Dorothy: "Well, I'm glad they aren't throwing...well, you know." *clears throat* "Where's Glinda?"

Toto: "She's at the front. Oh, and she's keeping the slippers for herself."

Dorothy: "That sorry -----! I loved those shoes!"

Toto: "They fit her better, anyway. And with her skin tone...."

Dorothy: "Oh, shut up. Let's go see this Wizard person...."

Toto: "What? There aren't enough closet-queens for you?"
~~~~~

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

Love and Vale,
-Leavaros/Masq
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