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Prinny Baal
Crew

PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:23 pm


If you have any questions regarding the workings of this game, feel free to post them here. I will place the answers to all the questions within the next few posts so that everyone can read them before posting, K?


Index

Post 0 -Index

The index...

Post 1 -Cross Overs

Those things that will be reappearing from the various NI games.


Post 2 -Player

Info regarding the basics. Suggested to be read before jumping in.

Post 3 -Overlord

Information helpful to Overlords.


Post 2 - General

General information of varying importance.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 9:24 pm


Cross-Overs
are we going to ever meet NPC overlords
Define nPC, do you mean not controlled by the standard faction team players? Yes then.

Cross-Overs
will all monsters be appearing
All monsters from the first game, and, as I reverse extrapolate the data, monsters from other games as well will all appear in this game.

Cross-Overs
will Baal and or Prinny Baal be appearing
Now honestly, you don't think I would use my own title deliberately like that? Of course I'll be in the game. I won't be taking an aggressive stance however, I don't want to kill everyone.

Cross-Overs
Geo Symbols? will they appear
Yes, quite frequently as you move away from the capitols in fact.

Cross-Overs
Will any main Disgaea Peeps appear Y'know Laharl, Etna, Adell
No, none of the standard cast, I'm trying to avoid using Canon characters, and am planning on giving warnings to anyone EXPLICITLY playing as Laharl, Etna, or any other such Canon character. Using a modified personality and background is fine, but if it's blatantly obvious, I'm not going to enjoy it.

Cross-Overs

item world? Maps? LOC? will either of these be in the game

LOC will make a showing, Item World is still being set up, I'm not going to release it at the start due to FAR too many variations being needed. I might just make a random index of 20 or so maps, and combine it with a random index of monsters and geo effects.

Cross-overs
WILL PLENAIR BE IN IT OR SAMMY AND USAGI
This is an odd one, I don't want to use Canon characters, but Pleinair is an odd case. I might end up using her, but I probably won't.

Cross-Overs

Can we have some special REAL DISGAEA weapons that'd be cool I would love to have a youshunitsa

I've already gotten ready on getting a variety of unique weapons ready, you've likely noticed the ridiculously overpriced, and underpowered weapons available in stores for the obsessive, as a quick note, nothing in this game is completely worthless, just be aware that some of them have... odd ways of coming in handy. That said, things like the Nemesis and Yoshi will be making their appearances, but be aware that although I'm willing to give out uniques, they won't be guaranteed to be yours forever.

Cross-overs

will we have the Dark World

Dark world will make a very BIG showing, read further down for a little sneak peek.

Cross-Overs
Will Felonies and the Dark COurt Appear?

The Dark court... will make an appearance, felonies will not show up. The dark court's purpose will be to allow checks and balances to the standard players. For instance, if wanted, a player can spend a little mana to indict another player of that faction. All players of the faction will then proceed to cast votes regarding whether the player is guilty, to be punished, and what the punishment is.

Cross-Overs
Can we travel to alternate Netherworlds at some point
Yes, there will be both cross-over alt maps with related dark assembly proposals, and various other little treats.

Prinny Baal
Crew


Pad Chief

Winner

PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:25 am


Player
what happens when a faction is wiped out
A couple things, depending. First of all, when the faction loses, everyone on that faction loses a portion of their stats, and may choose to reincarnate on either of the two remaining teams, assuming it was one of the other two factions who successfully captured them.

If the central faction captured them, as per the rules, A game loss against all players are called, and we simply go to the next cycle.

When the overlord is wiped out away from faction, the people who took out said overlord recieve a bit of mana and... nothing. If the faction is wiped out as their capitol is captured, then the capturing team receives impressive benefits, ranging from mana, to items.

Regardless of what happens, all players on said faction will be able to choose from the remaining factions, and carry a portion of their stats with them.


Player
if a Overlord has to leave for some reason what happens
A few things, first, all players on that faction are allowed to nominate any member, as well as recalled to their capitol. Next, an immense voting session takes place, with 1 vote taking up 1 turn. The player's who received the three lowest votes will be dropped each time, with tied scores dropping all members, excepting if everyone votes for them self. In that case, it's simply another vote. The vote continues until one player can obtain a vote of at least 3/4ths of their faction.

The player who receives said votes will be declared the new overlord. They will NOT obtain any of the original Overlord bonuses, although they will absorb the mana that the previous Overlord had.


Player
Can we have contact with other Overlords and Leak Rumors and Make Alliances
There will be a total of four threads available to players for chatting ingame.

These threads are:

Team threads, only available to the respective teams.

General Thread, available to everyone

Market Thread, available to everyone, meant specifically meant for in game item trades.

Announce thread, available to everyone, generally only posted in by the crew and overlords, anyone can spend mana to make posts in it.

Player
will are cities be upgradeable or something
The cities layouts, as well as what is in them, is decidable by the overlord, as well as the factions players to a large extent. I might be able to get some concept art out, as well as overlay maps if desired, however aside from that, the features of a city will be relatively dependent on the players. There will be features of the city that will be improved through various assembly bills, however those may not reflect how the city grounds are RPed. Please remember, this is still an RP.

Player

How much cash will we all start with?

None, I realize it's cruel, but you do start with equipment, I might be willing to change that, but at the moment, starting with more than none might provoke the rushing strategy being MUCH stronger than all others.

Player
Can we have new magic's like Lightning
Certain new abilities will be presented as I finish test balancing them. For your info, here's an interesting spell that the eventually to be released "Siege Mages" learn:

Phase In
Lv 50
SP Cost: 12
Mana Cost: Dependent (Character Level+1xintervening hexes)
Power: N/A
Effect: Allows the Siege Mage to move an allied faction member directly to the siege mage, regardless of intervening hexes and number of turns needed. Faction member may move immediately. Useful for moving players around the world for war fronts, it's mostly a support ability, as it can only be used outside of battle.

Player
will our base have anything interesting in it
This depends on your definition of interesting. I can't exactly enforce any RP traits, and as such, the only way I can truly put interesting things in is by giving a full word overview of the city. Although I will be doing that all the same.

Player
will the map get any larger or have secret areas on it EG: an underground or the sky
Expect the unexpected. I won't reveal too much on this yet, but I do have an interesting plan.
PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:11 pm


Player/Overlord

can we make students if I might want to learn heal

Players will be able to transmigrate for skills, Overlords are only allowed to transmigrate into their own class, but receive a couple unique benefits. Later I will announce a system of Pupils for players who want to get Extra Gain, but be aware that said system will cost money, among other things, and will be hard to work out in game. Until I have free time to work out the kinks that are present due to forum modification, please wait.

Overlord

Can I have Demon Lords or vassals of any kind



The ranks within any faction are decided by the Overlord, this means that you can call anyone in your faction whatever you want, be it Demon Lord, Vassal, or Freak, the title given doesn't mean they have a different stat growth chart, but it can be used to denote chain of command.


Overlord

can my base weapons I give to my subjects be different



Each faction is able to build up their weapon rank on three weapons at a time, it's possible to switch weapon choices at any time, and that's simple enough early on if you want to simply get a broad base of low level weapons, but as you get to high rank weapons, the Mana cost, and the time cost will become prohibitive to build up more than the three chosen weapons. All subjects are allowed to buy any of the rank 0 weapons, but beyond that it's required for the Overlord to spend mana to pass proposals to the Dark Congress to raise the faction's rank in weapons. Until the first rank bill is passed, they technically don't have any chosen weapons.

Let's say that the main Overlord uses Swords, it's likely he'll be passing the "Stronger Swords" Proposal for himself, and so his faction will have swords as one of their three weapons.

Next, Player B uses Staves, and needs to start using stronger Staves, so the Overlord passes the "Stronger Staves" Proposal, and Player B buys his desired Stave.

Now Player C is a Monster, and needs Monster weapons, so the Overlord passes the "Stronger Monster Weapons" Proposal, and player C gets his equipment.

Now Player D comes along, and uses Swords, and decides to buy the upgraded sword available (The "Stronger Swords" proposal is still in effect as they haven't reached more than three weapons yet)

Finally Player E comes along, and he wants a spear, now the Overlord has a choice:

He can ignore Player E, and this is entirely understandable if he's spent ALOT of mana on improving all three weapon growths.

Alternatively he could choose to reduce his Stave Rank to 0, and pass the "Stronger Spears" proposal, this would mean that Player B wouldn't be able to buy improved Staves anymore, but Player E would be able to buy improved spears now.

The same applies to each of the weapons, although there's logic to not dropping the sword rank at the moment: There's already two different players using swords, and only one on Staves or Monster Weapons.




Overlord
Can an Overlord Be completely Custom with some Special attacks of his or her own
The overlord receives four unique skills, one at level 5, one at level 20, one at level 50, and one at level 100. These skills will vary from Overlord to Overlord, however there are limits to what their effects are.

Overlord

will their be any special slightly cool and weird bills to pass

Yes.


Overlord
Can you give us any Hints to what these Weird But Awesome Bills may be
Why yes! Here's an interesting one...

Bill- Dark Conversion
Mana Cost: 120*Hex distance from Capitol+500
Passing Difficulty: MAX
Effect: In a radius of 3 hexes, all hexes surrounding the targeted hex owned by this faction are converted to dark world hexes, these hexes use a new unique map made specifically for them until an faction succeeds in recapturing them, at which point they revert to the standard map.

Overlord
WIll the Dark Assembly Have Rivalries
There will be a variety of so to speak groups within the assembly, however, be aware that quite a few things would change to adapt it to forum use.

Overlord
Will the Dark assembly have likings eg. Orcs like Girls
See the above answer, this one has a similiar answer. Things will be adapted, so keep that in mind.

Overlord
can I send invites to people to join my faction at the moment
You may invite as many people as you want to join your faction. Please remember to tell those who aren't yet in the guild itself to send a join request. I will make a warning however: I have no intention to allow one team to get excessive numbers compared to any other, and as such, will be moving players from one team to another when it seems absolutely needed to maintain balance.

Prinny Baal
Crew


Pad Chief

Winner

PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 1:10 pm


General
Can every person have like 1 uniqe attack
Standard Players, unlike Overlords, are not allowed to receive -absolutely- unique skills. There are a number of classes available to them, and after each cycle, I will give all current players a chance to spend their mana to create a new unique class for themselves within certain limits, however in game, they will not learn unique skills.

General
Can we kidnap monsters
As of this moment, no. I have yet to find an efficient way to simulate this, and have essentially given up on trying at the moment.

General
Can we make towers?
You mean the lift towers? Yes, although be aware that people might not like being picked up against their will. I'd suggest getting the ok to make a human tower from everyone involved first.

General
Will Majin's ever be avalible
Yes, attained through essentially the same method.

General
Will we have innocents and that sort of stuff in our weapons
Store bought items won't have specialists in the beginning, however rewards for successful captures will.

General
If we go to the item world will we be an easy target
Players are allowed to team up when going through their item worlds, and I hope teamwork will be important. Assuming that people don't team up, it'll be extremely hard compared to the original game.

General
WIll their be a Hospital with rewards
People will naturally use the hospital to heal. I refuse to give out rewards, they would basically mean that people would be hoping to use the same abuse that occurred in disgaea 1.

General
Will their be moving Geo Panels
Yes.

General
how do we find out who wins in the end
You play ^_^ I expect the game to take awhile, it's not going to be called in the first several minutes is it?

General
how long will this be going on for
I plan to run each cycle for about 3 or 4 months, although it will vary, I'm pretty sure later cycles will start off deadlier, and the first few will involve near tutorial difficulty starting battles.

General
will there be many 1 of a kind NPCs
Well, bare minimum there will be... 17 nPCs that I can confirm. More will likely show up through various means.

General
will enemies vary in hardness or will they all have the same kind of kill the chest first idiotcy
Enemies will have stratagems, meaning each particular enemy will have something that it will maintain doing, under specific conditions. Stratagems will be layered, especially the harder the enemies get, allowing them to respond more and more specifically to various tactics. An example is staggered close, staggered, line, stratagem; If any attack mages are on the map, and at least one IDed ally with an ID lower than current monster has been killed, they move to the position indicated by the difference in ID numbers. If all enemies remain, they simply take their ID position among the formation. If no enemy mages are available, they instead line up to enter formation.

--- --- -5 --- ---
-1 --- --- --- -9
--- --- -4 --- ---
-2 --- --- --- -7
--- --- -6 --- ---
-3 --- --- --- -8

General
if you have 3 bounty squares do we get any sort of special items just hanging around in our base
Standing around in your own base won't earn you any rewards, however, taking control of an enemy base will.

General

I notice also that the tyrant has 6 squares around him could this be used somehow to give out the Yoshi and Nemesis could be your weapon which we have to Nick

Quite observant, for your info, even though I have 6 squares, there are only 3 bounty squares in that circle... wondering? Well, notice that there's three off-color squares? Those are the squares with bounties... It'll be a secret why until the game begins.

Arts

Can I draw Pic's of our charecters to be our offical Avatar for the game

Sure, but please ask others if they want you to draw their pic. If you draw a pic, please remember to include things such as weapons, I have a bitmap of all the weapons and all the sprites in the game if someone wants to edit that, but aside from that it's likely I'll just be using the standard colors.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 4:34 pm


Alright, quoting for ease of my mind.

Overlord
Can I have Demon Lords or vassals of any kind


The ranks within any faction are decided by the Overlord, this means that you can call anyone in your faction whatever you want, be it Demon Lord, Vassal, or Freak, the title given doesn't mean they have a different stat growth chart, but it can be used to denote chain of command.

Overlord
can my base weapons I give to my subjects be different


Each faction is able to build up their weapon rank on three weapons at a time, it's possible to switch weapon choices at any time, and that's simple enough early on if you want to simply get a broad base of low level weapons, but as you get to high rank weapons, the Mana cost, and the time cost will become prohibitive to build up more than the three chosen weapons. All subjects are allowed to buy any of the rank 0 weapons, but beyond that it's required for the Overlord to spend mana to pass proposals to the Dark Congress to raise the faction's rank in weapons. Until the first rank bill is passed, they technically don't have any chosen weapons.

Let's say that the main Overlord uses Swords, it's likely he'll be passing the "Stronger Swords" Proposal for himself, and so his faction will have swords as one of their three weapons.

Next, Player B uses Staves, and needs to start using stronger Staves, so the Overlord passes the "Stronger Staves" Proposal, and Player B buys his desired Stave.

Now Player C is a Monster, and needs Monster weapons, so the Overlord passes the "Stronger Monster Weapons" Proposal, and player C gets his equipment.

Now Player D comes along, and uses Swords, and decides to buy the upgraded sword available (The "Stronger Swords" proposal is still in effect as they haven't reached more than three weapons yet)

Finally Player E comes along, and he wants a spear, now the Overlord has a choice:

He can ignore Player E, and this is entirely understandable if he's spent ALOT of mana on improving all three weapon growths.

Alternatively he could choose to reduce his Stave Rank to 0, and pass the "Stronger Spears" proposal, this would mean that Player B wouldn't be able to buy improved Staves anymore, but Player E would be able to buy improved spears now.

The same applies to each of the weapons, although there's logic to not dropping the sword rank at the moment: There's already two different players using swords, and only one on Staves or Monster Weapons.

Player
Can we have some special REAL DISGAEA weapons that'd be cool I would love to have a youshunitsa
I've already gotten ready on getting a variety of unique weapons ready, you've likely noticed the ridiculously overpriced, and underpowered weapons available in stores for the obsessive, as a quick note, nothing in this game is completely worthless, just be aware that some of them have... odd ways of coming in handy. That said, things like the Nemesis and Yoshi will be making their appearances, but be aware that although I'm willing to give out uniques, they won't be guaranteed to be yours forever.

Player/Overlord
can we make students if I might want to learn heal
Players will be able to transmigrate for skills, Overlords are only allowed to transmigrate into their own class, but receive a couple unique benefits. Later I will announce a system of Pupils for players who want to get Extra Gain, but be aware that said system will cost money, among other things, and will be hard to work out in game. Until I have free time to work out the kinks that are present due to forum modification, please wait.

Prinny Baal
Crew


Pad Chief

Winner

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 12:18 pm


item world? Maps? LOC? will either of these be in the game


How much cash will we all start with?

will their be any special slightly cool and weird bills to pass

will we have the Dark World

Can I draw Pic's of our charecters to be our offical Avatar for the game

I notice also that the tyrant has 6 squares around him could this be used somehow to give out the Yoshi and Nemesis could be your weapon which we have to Nick

Thats all I can think of for now But I'll have more questions later
PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 12:48 pm


Player
item world? Maps? LOC? will either of these be in the game
LOC will make a showing, Item World is still being set up, I'm not going to release it at the start due to FAR too many variations being needed. I might just make a random index of 20 or so maps, and combine it with a random index of monsters and geo effects.


Player
How much cash will we all start with?
None, I realize it's cruel, but you do start with equipment, I might be willing to change that, but at the moment, starting with more than none might provoke the rushing strategy being MUCH stronger than all others.

Overlord
will their be any special slightly cool and weird bills to pass
twisted Yes.

Player
will we have the Dark World
Dark world will make a very BIG showing, but, that's for me to know for now.

Arts
Can I draw Pic's of our charecters to be our offical Avatar for the game
Sure, but please ask others if they want you to draw their pic. If you draw a pic, please remember to include things such as weapons, I have a bitmap of all the weapons and all the sprites in the game if someone wants to edit that, but aside from that it's likely I'll just be using the standard colors.

Player
I notice also that the tyrant has 6 squares around him could this be used somehow to give out the Yoshi and Nemesis could be your weapon which we have to Nick
Quite observant, for your info, even though I have 6 squares, there are only 3 bounty squares in that circle... wondering? Well, notice that there's three off-color squares? Those are the squares with bounties... It'll be a secret why until the game begins.



Again, Please ask as needed, I'm always open to questions.

Prinny Baal
Crew


Pad Chief

Winner

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 1:12 pm


more questions



Geo Symbols? will they appear

Will any main Disgaea Peeps appear Y'know Laharl, Etna, Adell

Can we have new magic's like Lightning

Can an Overlord Be completely Custom with some Special attacks of his or her own

Can every person have like 1 uniqe attack

Can we have those Overlords/Demon Lords Flames

Can you give us any Hints to what these Weird But Awesome Bills may be

Can we kidnap monsters

And I'll be back with more questions once I read a bit of the Disgaea Strategy Guide


FInal and posssibly Most important Question


WILL PLENAIR BE IN IT OR SAMMY AND USAGI
PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 1:51 pm


Player
Geo Symbols? will they appear
Yes, quite frequently as you move away from the capitols in fact.

Player
Will any main Disgaea Peeps appear Y'know Laharl, Etna, Adell
No, none of the standard cast, I'm trying to avoid using Canon characters, and am planning on giving warnings to anyone EXPLICITLY playing as Laharl, Etna, or any other such Canon character. Using a modified personality and background is fine, but if it's blatantly obvious, I'm not going to enjoy it.

Player
Can we have new magic's like Lightning
Certain new abilities will be presented as I finish test balancing them. For your info, here's an interesting spell that the eventually to be released "Siege Mages" learn:

Phase In
Lv 50
SP Cost: 12
Mana Cost: Dependent (Character Level+1xintervening hexes)
Power: N/A
Effect: Allows the Siege Mage to move an allied faction member directly to the siege mage, regardless of intervening hexes and number of turns needed. Faction member may move immediately. Useful for moving players around the world for war fronts, it's mostly a support ability, as it can only be used outside of battle.

Overlord
Can an Overlord Be completely Custom with some Special attacks of his or her own
The overlord receives four unique skills, one at level 5, one at level 20, one at level 50, and one at level 100. These skills will vary from Overlord to Overlord, however there are limits to what their effects are.

Player
Can every person have like 1 uniqe attack
Standard Players, unlike Overlords, are not allowed to receive unique skills. There are a number of classes available to them, and after each cycle, I will give all current players a chance to spend their mana to create a new unique class for themselves within certain limits, however in game, they will not learn unique skills.

Overlord
Can we have those Overlords/Demon Lords Flames
Could you define this question a little more? I'm not sure what this means.

Overlord
Can you give us any Hints to what these Weird But Awesome Bills may be
Why yes! Here's an interesting one...

Bill- Dark Conversion
Mana Cost: 120*Hex distance from Capitol+500
Passing Difficulty: MAX
Effect: In a radius of 3 hexes, all hexes surrounding the targeted hex owned by this faction are converted to dark world hexes, these hexes use a new unique map made specifically for them until an faction succeeds in recapturing them, at which point they revert to the standard map.

Player
Can we kidnap monsters
As of this moment, no. I have yet to find an efficient way to simulate this, and have essentially given up on trying at the moment.


Player
WILL PLENAIR BE IN IT OR SAMMY AND USAGI
This is an odd one, I don't want to use Canon characters, but Pleinair is an odd case. I might end up using her, but I probably won't.

Prinny Baal
Crew


Pad Chief

Winner

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 2:05 pm


Y'know those flames in disgaea 2 when the Overlords Get angry or are ready to fight


When Rozalin Insults Demon Lord Etna is a good example she gets those purple flames


If we can I'm having Black Flames
PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 2:19 pm


PrinnyLaharal
Y'know those flames in disgaea 2 when the Overlords Get angry or are ready to fight


When Rozalin Insults Demon Lord Etna is a good example she gets those purple flames


If we can I'm having Black Flames


Ah, those are visual effects, that's an entirely different point. There's no real reason for me to add them, but if you do your art with them I don't mind.

Prinny Baal
Crew


Pad Chief

Winner

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 2:39 pm


Will Felonies and the Dark COurt Appear?


Can we make towers?

WIll the Dark Assembly Have Rivalries

Will the Dark assembly have likings eg. Orcs like Girls

Will Majin's ever be avalible

Will we have innocents and that sort of stuff in our weapons

If we go to the item world will we be an easy target

WIll their be a Hospital with rewards

Will their be moving Geo Panels

Can we travel to alternate Netherworlds at some point

Can we have contact with other Overlords and Leak Rumors and Make Alliances
PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 3:09 pm


Cross-Overs
Will Felonies and the Dark COurt Appear?

The Dark court... will make an appearance, felonies will not show up. The dark court's purpose will be to allow checks and balances to the standard players. For instance, if wanted, a player can spend a little mana to indict another player of that faction. All players of the faction will then proceed to cast votes regarding whether the player is guilty, to be punished, and what the punishment is.

Players
Can we make towers?
You mean the lift towers? Yes, although be aware that people might not like being picked up against their will. I'd suggest getting the ok to make a human tower from everyone involved first.

Overlord
WIll the Dark Assembly Have Rivalries
There will be a variety of so to speak groups within the assembly, however, be aware that quite a few things would change to adapt it to forum use.

Overlord
Will the Dark assembly have likings eg. Orcs like Girls
See the above answer, this one has a similiar answer. Things will be adapted, so keep that in mind.

Player
Will Majin's ever be avalible
Yes, attained through essentially the same method.

Player
Will we have innocents and that sort of stuff in our weapons
Store bought items won't have specialists in the beginning, however rewards for successful captures will.

Player
If we go to the item world will we be an easy target
Players are allowed to team up when going through their item worlds, and I hope teamwork will be important. Assuming that people don't team up, it'll be extremely hard compared to the original game.

Player
WIll their be a Hospital with rewards
People will naturally use the hospital to heal. I refuse to give out rewards, they would basically mean that people would be hoping to use the same abuse that occurred in disgaea 1.

Player
Will their be moving Geo Panels
Yes.

Cross-Overs
Can we travel to alternate Netherworlds at some point
Yes, there will be both cross-over alt maps with related dark assembly proposals, and various other little treats.

Player
Can we have contact with other Overlords and Leak Rumors and Make Alliances
There will be a total of four threads available to players for chatting ingame.

These threads are:

Team threads, only available to the respective teams.

General Thread, available to everyone

Market Thread, available to everyone, meant specifically meant for in game item trades.

Announce thread, available to everyone, generally only posted in by the crew and overlords, anyone can spend mana to make posts in it.

Prinny Baal
Crew


Pad Chief

Winner

PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 3:29 pm


thanks for the info I'll have more questions tommorow and ybe some members


actually I do have a question

Will their be 10% Level Geo Symbols Because they may be abused

also how can we tell which people are part of the game and have a position I need to know this so I know who to recruit
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