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ffdarkangel

PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:41 pm


Monesty varies from person to person, from religion to religion. Some religions cover their head, some don't. Some people don't see anything wrong with showing a little something, just as long as they don't get in trouble with the law.

My view is that I should not wear tight tops or low cut tops. I even extend it to not wearing regular shorts.(Well, except for the swimming pool.) Other than making me self conious, I believe that wearing this clothes promotes not so nice thoughts in the mind of guys. (There are perverts out there. For example, went to camp and there was a pervert. He did perverted things to all the girls. It went to the point he got kicked out. One of the only non victims was me.)

Christianity, my religion I guess, doesn't give any rules when it comes to modesty. I just adapted this from the world around me. I'm fine with this but it does pose a problem when I shop for clothes. There are hardly any clothes in the juniors department that fit my standards.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 7:41 pm


I believe that the body is what you were given, and there is nothing obscene about it if one isn't overtly flaunting it. It is about as vulgar as a tree's trunk and branches, or a flower's petals.

But due to the general public's discomfort with nudity, I feel one should cover oneself reasonably, for the sake of being polite and respectful of others' feelings and comfort levels. As in nothing hanging out. AND that one shouldn't be flaunting parts.

Accenting is one thing; wearing a tailored shirt is very different than wearing a tight one.

Thus, personally, I have no problem being naked/nearly so in front of those I am familiar with and I know aren't particularly put off by it.

Mangolyn


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 8:09 am


Let's face it. I'm not modest at all. I see modesty first and foremost as not attracting attention to yourself, not thinking you're utterly fantastic, and covering your body so as to avoid becoming a 'sexual object'.

Firstly, I believe that the human body is only sexual when it is thought of that way by the body's inhabitant. (Unless you have a scenario similar to 'invasion of the body snatchers') If I don't see my body as sexual, it's not. There's nothing obscene or sexual about it. I personally don't care how many or how few items of clothing you choose to wear, or how revealing those items of clothing may be. I think clothing (or the lack of it) is the sole concern of the person wearing it. In response to Magnolyn's point about the general public's discomfort with nudity, I disagree. While it may be uncomfortable for some people to be exposed to certain states of undress, it's really not their problem, is it?

As for and not attracting attention to yourself, I think different people will have different comfort levels about attracting attention and such, but as a spiritual goal, I don't agree with it. While some people may not be comfortable talking about their achievements, or wearing short shorts, drawing attention to themselves, I don't think that it's a particularly good or bad thing. They just are that way, like some people just like spicy food, and some people hate it.

However, and this is especially pertinent with the clothing-related side of modesty, I do think that people should be aware that their perceived lack of modesty may hurt them. The example that ffdarkangel brought up illustrates this: Yes, if you wear revealing clothes, you may be at higher risk for attracting unwanted sexual attentions.

Finally, here's where I stand in all this. I think I'm fantastic, I love attention, I don't wear particularly revealing clothes by modern western standards, and I really don't care if I'm modest or not: I'll just keep being the way I am, thankyouverymuch. What bothers me a bit is that some people see my vanity and huge ego as arrogance and thinking I'm better than everyone else. Not so. I think I'm fantastic, and I think almost the whole rest of the planet is fantastic too. I suppose you could say I have a universal ego. My immodesty extends to the whole of creation. "Look how cool life is! Isn't existing super?" And so forth.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:33 am


I mostly just wear what I like and what is comfortable... aesthetics plus utility. Modesty doesn't really come into the picture for me, but as it turns out, both my aesthetic sense and utilitarian sense in tandem create what most would consider modest dress.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2007 5:54 pm


Like I always say, If you have it, flaunt it. If you don't, front it and snap to death anyone who dare say otherwise.

I'm as modest as a porn star.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2007 3:49 pm


There are 2 different definitions to modesty in my church, both of which are strict by most standards (but not by all).

Quote:
1. having or showing a moderate or humble estimate of one's merits, importance, etc.; free from vanity, egotism, boastfulness, or great pretensions.
2. free from ostentation or showy extravagance: a modest house.

In essence, being humble. This isn't that hard to understand if you believe everything you have comes from the Lord. It's not really yours, it's God's blessing to you. So there is no reason to brag... just to be GRATEFUL!

And I suppose that is the more common of a usage of the word modest nowadays. However, I imagine modest in dress means more of the second definition, which I practice as well, being Mormon.

Quote:
3. having or showing regard for the decencies of behavior, speech, dress, etc.; decent: a modest neckline on a dress.

Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints try to dress modestly, most avoiding sleeveless shirts or short shorts and usually opting for 1 piece swimsuits instead of bikinis and such. But it is up to the individual.

However, when a member of my faith makes covenants in the Temple (further than baptism, a decision made later in life as an adult, usually near an important time such as marriage or serving a mission) they promise to wear a special under garment (not really magic underwear! hee hee) and wear clothing that covers that. They typically go from upper arm (like a babydoll tee) to just a bit above the knee so members who have been through the tmple will usually be dressed to cover that accordingly.

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ffdarkangel

PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2007 5:51 pm


I can see that being useful in a holy place. If entering a temple, church, or other spiritial place, dress accordingly. For example, I have five dresses to wear to church. (Yeah, I probably only need one, but dresses, they are fun to buy xd ) I don't go to church anymore but they are still there. Okay, I am stopping before I take this off topic. I have been known to do that.
PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 1:58 pm


It's been a few years since I was baptised into the United Pentecostal Church, but lately modesty has been on my mind. I've been wanting to dress modest- to stop wearing low-cut tops, to wear skrts more often, etc., (and grow out my hair, like most Pentecostals) to not only protect myself from perverts, to prevent other guys from sinning by looking at me, but also to please God. We call it "conviction". smile I suppose I'm being convicted. It's not so bad, really. biggrin

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