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 Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2005 8:28 pm
In another thread, I stumbled across the revalation that the media magnifies crime. In several ways, too!
1. It puts complex devious criminal thoughts in the minds of thousands-to-millions of people thru drama. Whether it be a detective/law show, horror, thriller, romance or even a documentary may all introduce devious plots into people's minds.
2. The news often glorifies controversial criminals making them world renowned.
3. The news & cop reality shows show people how the police operate & different ways people screwed up... or didn't screw up, as the case may be.
4. Communicating mass anger throughout a community. If people see on the news that a riot is occurring in another part of town, it will attract criminally minded people. I mean... if those loonies are getting a free tv I want one, too!
5. Showing people that it's alright to be a dumbass. That you CAN get away with ******** with other people. That there ARE people out there just as dumb as they are.
This all relates to the meme - mind virus, in that stupid people are infecting everyone with their stupidity. Hence the proliferation of ebonics words & purposefully mispelling words.
I'm not saying I am going to quit watching TV, or that I'm a communist, 'cuz I'm not. But our current social structure is not advancing our culture. It is degrading our culture.
Any thoughts?
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Posted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 9:31 pm
Yes, the media does promote crime, in my opinion. By sensationalizing everything that happens, the media lulls us into a sense of insecurity. All we see on the news is rape and murder, so we believe that that is all that can be going on. This causes paranoia on our part, and leads to the conclusion of "It's a dog eat dog world" making us feel as though we have to fend for ourselves. When we decide that the rest of the world is out to get us, we become dispassionate about it, and no longer care about everyone else. After all, they're just trying to screw me over, right? So I'd better do the same to them. It's an endless cycle.
I've always wondered about movies like Ocean's Eleven. Although I love the movie, it seems dangerous to teach people, even through a movie, about how to think through a seamless robbery.
And I don't watch TV anymore, in case you're interested. Haven't since I got to school. Can't say I miss it much either. Nothing good on anymore anyway, in my opinion.
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 2:08 pm
Well, I suppose you could think of it that way. But it pretty much depends on the viewer. Each person might take something they see on TV differently.
As for the news, they are just doing what they can to get more viewers. And what kind of news get the most viewers? Violence and sex. Oh, and weather, but you can't sensacionalize that. They'll always choose the unsolved murder over general-subject news.
What really gets me is what they do with celebrities, making them look like gods. And people fall for it. That's great for marketing, mind you. A very important concept of marking is to make a superfluous product into something necessary. And how do you do that? The best way is to show a celebrity using your product. Why, if Jennifer Aniston uses that soap and gets that silky smooth skin, why shouldn't you?
And yeah, like Aria, I stopped watching TV a long time ago. I got all I need right here.
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 6:45 am
There's a similar discussion going on in the Netherlands (or parts of the Netherlands, anyway) at the moment regarding 'tile-tossing on highways'.
Tile-tossing:
v. To toss tiles from a viaduct or bridge onto the road below, with the occasional result of injury or death if the tile hits a car, or the car swerves to avoid the falling tiles and hits either other cars or slams into the fence type thingie that line these type of roads.
Whenever something like this occurs, it gets printed in the paper. Some believe that, by continuously paying attention to this, it gives people the idea that 'Hey! this is cool! We'll be in the papers!'.
This, of course, is not good, considering this type of thing has resulted, as stated before, in both injury and death.
Personally, I think that while there is the duty to report things (hey, you're a newspaper journalist, or you aren't), I do feel that certain people are more susceptible to being infected by the stupidity of suspected coolness.
Which could result in more tile-tossing.
So I'm kind of uncertain as to which side of the fence to take in this argument. I mean, people should just stop being stupid and then no one would have to report it, meaning no more stupid cycle.
But is being silent about it really the way to go?
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Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 12:55 pm
Maze But is being silent about it really the way to go? Is it just me... or is the news somewhat silent about the war? If that is so... they are being quiet about the wrong things. I think also the news gave away things that should actually remain secret... because news stations are broadcast worldwide if I remember right. (I don't want the news or anything... sweatdrop Please... stop staring at me like that...) But... it's just some things are best left unsaid, and some things actually need to be. However... I don't run the news. Plus... I don't watch it. Why I am giving an opinion on that... I don't know, I just know it's my opinion.
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:08 am
If you have an opinion, you're free to express it, last I heard.
Or, well, so long as it doesn't break the TOS.. sweatdrop
For what it's worth, I hardly ever watch the news either. Occasionally, I zap past it. Most of the newsfeed I'm presented with is through friends, heh and them mentioning it to me.
Unless I go to college, because then I bore myself with the papers in the trains, I admit. sweatdrop
Either way, I forgot what I was going to say, so I'm just gonna.. yeah, shut up and check the rest of the threads. Maybe edit this post once I remember but..
Don't count on it. ^_^;
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 1:20 pm
The sex and violence shown on the news doesn't exactly educate the viewers on how to do it. And while that kind of news is often depressing, I don't think it suggests anything to the viewers that they haven't already decided on their own.
What bothers me most is the law & order type cop/law shows... and some movies that depicts similar things. The writers spend a lot of time to think up the most twisted schemes ever devised, and then they act it out and televise it. Now, this would be great if it were something like a creative art project or something positive, but it never is. It's always about some psycho rapist or murderer or child molester. Always twisted.
You also have a point about the news promoting vandalism & other attention-grabbing criminal activities. Especially if it's something the typical juvenile delinquent hasn't thought of, yet.
One example of how the media can change social opinions and dramatically affect things... many years ago a new station reported there was a shortage on toiletpaper due to problems at a paper manufacturing plant. Before too long, ALL of the news stations were reporting this. The people got paniced and started buying mass quantities of toilet paper - thereby causing a shortage. And the ironic thing? There was no shortage to begin with. And toiletpaper isn't that dependent on one manufacturer, unlike oil is.
Uh, oh. I heard there's an extreme shortage on brains due to supply chain problems. We better all rush out and buy one.
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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 6:54 am
Regardless of violence in the media, people still have their free will, and have nobody to blame for their own actions but themselves.
Some people exposed to violence will act against it, some will side with it.
It is up to each of us to make our own decisions.
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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 8:13 pm
It is just easier to state that the media is filtered. Think about it this way: How much news goes without media coverage through your town ALONE? The news stations as well as the newspapers and other media will put out what they believe will rake in the most ratings. 60-70% of the time it is about something unpleasant. The rest of the time it is about something that is UBER special. When was the last time you saw/read about a simple car wash for a fundraiser/charity? Things go on all the time on my campus, but over half of it goes unheard of because there are 'more important issues' going on in the world. Our campus calender in the paper is about a quarter of a page. The rest of it deals with our sports, and worldy issues. Some of which have nothing to do with any of our students on the campus (and, yes, that includes our foreign students). Yes, we do need to know about the world...but why is over half of a student newspaper taken up with world news? Shouldn't have a bit more to do with local news? There was a shooting recently somewhere (I don't remember where, but it was nowhere NEAR where the campus I go to is), and that was headlining news...Why? I don't think there was ONE person whom that affected on this campus. Ok..maybe one..but seriously, why was it front page? The reason: because it will draw more attention to the paper if the headline is "recent shootings cause an uprising fear". More people will pick it up thinking that it is something near by. Of course, they open it up and realize..oh shizz...they tricked me...AGAIN!
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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 11:09 pm
The mind-virus of stupidity is an epidemic in america. It is given to the children before they develop immunity, which turns it into a chain link effect. It is especially predominant because here, stupid people have more offspring, thus have more pull in the genepool. Ultimately, stupidity will prevail, since humans have excluded themselves from natural selection of a healthy sort. Instead of developing traits that improve our chances of survival, we now develop only those traits which help us mate more.
On an interesting note, culture cannot degrade, only change.
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Posted: Thu Nov 23, 2006 8:28 am
ochimaru 2. The news often glorifies controversial criminals making them world renowned. ... This all relates to the meme - mind virus, in that stupid people are infecting everyone with their stupidity. Hence the proliferation of ebonics words & purposefully mispelling words. ... I'm not saying I am going to quit watching TV, or that I'm a communist, 'cuz I'm not. But our current social structure is not advancing our culture. It is degrading our culture. Any thoughts?
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Only stupid people pick up their actions and habits from what they are fed, everyone has a choice about what they do unless they lead some sort of blindly uncritical existence.
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Our culture is always advancing, and it is no less the case today.
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Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:26 am
Hm. Well, it depends: a lot of liberal media in particular tends to lean toward justifying some acts of crime above others, whereas conservatives take the somewhat totalitarian outlook of "rape is rape. Stealing is stealing. The end."
Edit: on the other hand, if you're talking about movies, books, and such, some of it does "promote" crime if the viewer has an exceptionally low IQ, but a lot of it doesn't. Even those idiotic crime fighing shows have some aspect saying, "don't do evil things: it's bad."
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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:24 pm
ochimaru In another thread, I stumbled across the revalation that the media magnifies crime. In several ways, too! 1. It puts complex devious criminal thoughts in the minds of thousands-to-millions of people thru drama. Whether it be a detective/law show, horror, thriller, romance or even a documentary may all introduce devious plots into people's minds. Just like Plato's Discourses, involving his hero Socrates, put the ideas of dumb people into the readers. ochimaru 2. The news often glorifies controversial criminals making them world renowned. And culture has glorified murder, rape, wife-beating, animal abuse, adultery, and bestiality since it began. ochimaru 3. The news & cop reality shows show people how the police operate & different ways people screwed up... or didn't screw up, as the case may be. So, humanity lacks perfection. You're blaming the news, why? ochimaru 4. Communicating mass anger throughout a community. If people see on the news that a riot is occurring in another part of town, it will attract criminally minded people. I mean... if those loonies are getting a free tv I want one, too! That's how the crusades started. People heard the riot the pope started and started leaving for the crusades too. ochimaru 5. Showing people that it's alright to be a dumbass. That you CAN get away with ******** with other people. That there ARE people out there just as dumb as they are. Politics, mythology, tales told in a bar... this is pretty universal. ochimaru This all relates to the meme - mind virus, in that stupid people are infecting everyone with their stupidity. Hence the proliferation of ebonics words & purposefully mispelling words. I'm not saying I am going to quit watching TV, or that I'm a communist, 'cuz I'm not. But our current social structure is not advancing our culture. It is degrading our culture. Any thoughts? You neglect to understand that all language is two-sided. You have the speaker (the TV) and the listener. The speaker has the responsibility to keep the listener engaged and be interesting in some way. The listener has the responsibility to judge what they're seeing. When we as listeners (and watchers) take the responsibility to think about what we see (as I grew up doing), then we can blame TV for having trash that insults our intelligence. however, if we're not smart enough for it to be an insult, it's our fault, as the listeners/watchers.
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