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 Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 6:39 pm
Frank The Guardian Angel Crap, I forgot that I put that in there lol. I didn't mean to. Oh I see then nevermind if probably would be easy to sneak up on him.
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:07 pm
But, Cortez usually has a shield on, so he would not be good to attack since his shield is anti-matter, and it would destroy anything that tried touching him lol XD
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Frank The Guardian Angel Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:18 pm
Frank The Guardian Angel But, Cortez usually has a shield on, so he would not be good to attack since his shield is anti-matter, and it would destroy anything that tried touching him lol XD Hm what happens when the unstoppable force meets a unmovable object
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:24 pm
Well, the thing is that is really a pointless question, and it actually leads you in circles. The unstoppable force would be in exact equilibrium to the unmovable object, which would also come to say they are either the same thing, different things with very similar structure, or somewhere in between. But, if you don't want me to go into detail, they would be remarkably even. Since an immovable object can't be moved, this would mean that if it were sliding, that it would not be able to be stopped since it cannot be moved, which would also entail that it is an unstoppable force. There is the knot to the whole paradox. But, if you think that your character would be an unstoppable force, I would say that you're wrong, but I would not try to show it in the roleplay, at least, not until all the humans are demons, or if they are away from Kuoh Academy lol
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Frank The Guardian Angel Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:37 pm
Frank The Guardian Angel Well, the thing is that is really a pointless question, and it actually leads you in circles. The unstoppable force would be in exact equilibrium to the unmovable object, which would also come to say they are either the same thing, different things with very similar structure, or somewhere in between. But, if you don't want me to go into detail, they would be remarkably even. Since an immovable object can't be moved, this would mean that if it were sliding, that it would not be able to be stopped since it cannot be moved, which would also entail that it is an unstoppable force. There is the knot to the whole paradox. But, if you think that your character would be an unstoppable force, I would say that you're wrong, but I would not try to show it in the roleplay, at least, not until all the humans are demons, or if they are away from Kuoh Academy lol No it was more of you said that shield can destroy anything but what if the thing passing through is indestructible?
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:43 pm
Hello, I have a few questions for you.. I normally would've sent them to you via PM, but you have it set to friends only, so I had to accept your join request sooner than I normally would have. Anywho.... Please answer these questions. 1.How active do you plan to be? 2.Have you read the rules? 3.How literate are you? 4. I can has RP sample? emotion_kirakira
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Frank The Guardian Angel Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:46 pm
Well, Xaris also tried arguing with me that Void would be unable to be destroyed by his gear, but that would completely paradox his gear because it is able to destroy anything, which would also mean that it could destroy nothing. In addition, an indestructible object would have to be made of something that cannot be destroyed by anything or nothing, and it would have to be made of something that is nothing to nothing, otherwise known as being the enigma of all voids, in which there would be nothing able to be hit or destroyed, but it could still cause damage, which would be an impossibility with any form of physics, quantum physics, quantum mechanics, and all that fun stuff. So, to put it in simple terms, to have something that would not be able to be destroyed by Cortez, would be something that could not exist. (Also, I am an atheist, so you all know. I am just giving this as an example) It's similar to the God can create and do everything. So, if he can create anything and do anything, that would mean that he can create something that he cannot lift, but since he is an "almighty" god, he would be able to lift it, but it is something that he created that he is unable to lift, so technically he cannot do everything, but remember, he is almighty, so he makes himself stronger, and he lifts what could not be lifted before. However, he can still create something even heavier than that because that would mean that there is still something new that he can create due to him being able to lift what he could not lift before. In there lies the heart of the paradox.
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:14 pm
1. I plan to post in the guild 24/7 if possible.
2. Yes i have read the rules and will follow all.
3. I am very literate. ( or atleast i hope i am im 20 years old so i should be literate. Lol)
4. I sent you a friend request. Send me a pm and a topic to give you a sample on. Be it combat or whatever else you desire.
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:18 pm
Frank The Guardian Angel Well, Xaris also tried arguing with me that Void would be unable to be destroyed by his gear, but that would completely paradox his gear because it is able to destroy anything, which would also mean that it could destroy nothing. In addition, an indestructible object would have to be made of something that cannot be destroyed by anything or nothing, and it would have to be made of something that is nothing to nothing, otherwise known as being the enigma of all voids, in which there would be nothing able to be hit or destroyed, but it could still cause damage, which would be an impossibility with any form of physics, quantum physics, quantum mechanics, and all that fun stuff. So, to put it in simple terms, to have something that would not be able to be destroyed by Cortez, would be something that could not exist. (Also, I am an atheist, so you all know. I am just giving this as an example) It's similar to the God can create and do everything. So, if he can create anything and do anything, that would mean that he can create something that he cannot lift, but since he is an "almighty" god, he would be able to lift it, but it is something that he created that he is unable to lift, so technically he cannot do everything, but remember, he is almighty, so he makes himself stronger, and he lifts what could not be lifted before. However, he can still create something even heavier than that because that would mean that there is still something new that he can create due to him being able to lift what he could not lift before. In there lies the heart of the paradox. Can he destroy someone's gear? I don't know what it is made of especially since sometimes it defies the science. Such as people who's gear is to make a sword with powers they basically made a sword out of nothing which isn't possible I think. To be honest I'm not a expert in science so I don't know a lot of this stuff which you apparently do (at least more than me)
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:31 pm
Apparently, to some people's opinion, no, but I do believe that he ca n and I even told the Captain Mystie that he could, and she approved of it, but I'm not entirely sure if it is approved now. And no, the gears' weapons do not come from nothing. To use said weapons, you have to devote energy to receive it, which means that you used something to get it. And the Law of Conservation of Energy specifically states that Energy cannot be created nor destroyed, which also says that you cannot have something and make it nothing, nor can you have nothing and make it into something. You have to have something to make something, and you have to have nothing to have nothing. This is also called equivalent exchange, a term from alchemy. To get something, you must have something in equal proportions. So, Cortez needs enough energy to summon anti-matter, and he does. But, to be able to something the enigma of nothing is to have nothing at all, which would mean that you would be nothing as well, and that's why the gear would not work because you are actually something, and you cannot have something to have the absence of nothing. And yes, that does mean that Cortez's gear can destroy things, but that doesn't wipe them from existence; it turns them into different forms of matter or energy, which is where the Law of Conservation of Matter. And that states nearly the exact same thing as The Law of Conservation of Energy. And no, he does not create things from nothing, he uses his own energy to create it, which is an equivalent exchange. Hey, Mystie, do you still think it's okay that Cortez can destroy Sacred Gears?
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Frank The Guardian Angel Vice Captain
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:46 pm
Frank The Guardian Angel Apparently, to some people's opinion, no, but I do believe that he ca n and I even told the Captain Mystie that he could, and she approved of it, but I'm not entirely sure if it is approved now. And no, the gears' weapons do not come from nothing. To use said weapons, you have to devote energy to receive it, which means that you used something to get it. And the Law of Conservation of Energy specifically states that Energy cannot be created nor destroyed, which also says that you cannot have something and make it nothing, nor can you have nothing and make it into something. You have to have something to make something, and you have to have nothing to have nothing. This is also called equivalent exchange, a term from alchemy. To get something, you must have something in equal proportions. So, Cortez needs enough energy to summon anti-matter, and he does. But, to be able to something the enigma of nothing is to have nothing at all, which would mean that you would be nothing as well, and that's why the gear would not work because you are actually something, and you cannot have something to have the absence of nothing. And yes, that does mean that Cortez's gear can destroy things, but that doesn't wipe them from existence; it turns them into different forms of matter or energy, which is where the Law of Conservation of Matter. And that states nearly the exact same thing as The Law of Conservation of Energy. And no, he does not create things from nothing, he uses his own energy to create it, which is an equivalent exchange. Hey, Mystie, do you still think it's okay that Cortez can destroy Sacred Gears? Side note I have almost no education in this expect what I can look up and just knowledge I have. So would his gear have to use the same or more energy to destroy the object as people are using energy to keep the weapon there and in that form and the shield is basically pulling it apart matter wise. So let's say a gear makes a gun and if they shot at Cortez then whoever had the more energy to keep each thing together wins. Cortez uses energy to form the shield and the person the bullets which means most likely than not Cortez would lose because he uses his energy all the time which means he usually doesn't have that much all the time.
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 9:50 pm
Frank The Guardian Angel Hey, Mystie, do you still think it's okay that Cortez can destroy Sacred Gears? As long as you don't have him do it without the permission of the person who created the character who's gear he's destroying, I see nothing wrong with it.... But you have to have permission first!!!!!!!!!!!! And if he does it and the person says that you didn't have permission, just know that I will side with that person if you don't get said permission here in the guild where everyone can see.. Okies? Edit: And... I like what Doom said... o.o That would be a super good weakness for his gear...
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 10:00 pm
Mystiecat537 Frank The Guardian Angel Hey, Mystie, do you still think it's okay that Cortez can destroy Sacred Gears? As long as you don't have him do it without the permission of the person who created the character who's gear he's destroying, I see nothing wrong with it.... But you have to have permission first!!!!!!!!!!!! And if he does it and the person says that you didn't have permission, just know that I will side with that person if you don't get said permission here in the guild where everyone can see.. Okies? Edit: And... I like what Doom said... o.o That would be a super good weakness for his gear... How would that affect someone like Izumi though. Her gear is focused on healing not attacking. She'd be utterly defenceless to that.
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 10:03 pm
I'm not sure..... *staaaares at Frank*
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Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 10:03 pm
Alright guy's just tossing this out there simply because I think it pertains to your discussion and most of the time people over look such a simple fact. The one thing that I would say without a shadow of doubt would be that Cortez would not be able to destroy absolute darkness. Reasons being before creation there only existed darkness, were ever something appears darkness is already there, people say that there is nothing faster than the speed of light but in fact before light even reaches a place darkness is already there, then lastly you simply can't destroy something that is omnipresent even if there was a plane of nothing but light should something ever venture there to discover it then in fact that thing would bring the means for a shadow thus a form of darkness would in fact be present in a plane of pure light. Anyway just tossing that out there have fun with your discussion.
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