Alchemy is a big ******** YOU to the Users-----------UPDATE 9/20

[FayBel]

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agreed.
i had all the porridges as a set and now its incomplete cause of this the new one

mad

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[Fayte Firelight]

http://www.gaiaonline.com/journal/?mode=view&post_id=33420761&u=15539598

In reply to that link I would like to thank you for pointing that out and I think everyone should read that post and the comments following. [Note - not a single comment was positive]

I have to laugh at this "Novelty Effect" he talks about. The only Novelty Effect I've ever seen in play in my 3 years here on gaia has been someone in towns seeing someone else wearing a rare/expensive item and telling them how much BS it is that they have it. x3

[Mangacide]

FayBel

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agreed.
i had all the porridges as a set and now its incomplete cause of this the new one

mad

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I'm kind of disappointed too that it looks like that's just a recolor of the hair without any of the clothing poses to go with it. (Also I'd rather have it in black ._.)

[D3monicWolv3s]

Agreed level 1 alchemy shouldn't be this hard or expensive.
The only thing I've completed is the recipe that requires 100 orbs from zomg.
Everything else is just ridiculous.

[Computosaurus]

I've already sold all my organs to get this far. I still have my limbs to sell, but there are no components to buy. WTF Gaia?

[Yulister]

I remember Gaia that Alchemy would be a challenge.

I think most people expect it to be a challenge for other people, and easy for them.


Really....

[Lucca the Inventor]

Yulister

I remember Gaia that Alchemy would be a challenge.

I think most people expect it to be a challenge for other people, and easy for them.


Really....

Maybe.

Although my perspective is that when someone tells me a system is about challenging hard work to obtain a reward, my mind doesn't jump to tossing real money into a hole and having to be lucky enough to receive components that are so rare that out of a site of many thousands of people, there is not one to be obtained no matter what I do because it simply doesn't exist yet.

No, when I think of challenging hard work, I think of months to years of farming renewable items all across the site to exchange them for high level items. The effort being in the sheer amount of time and effort I need to put in to gather the extremely hefty amount needed depending on the level/value of the end result. I think of the folks that spent literal tons of effort catching rarer fish to exchange them for items and still those items are rare to this day and hunting non-stop in Towns for a moderate amount of bugs to create body dyes.

I'm willing to work hard and farm my butt off on formulas that would make the 500 inks for body dye or the amounts of farmables needed for the GGB formula look like chump change. I've done it before on other MMOs and I'm sure others are willing to roll up their sleeves and do the same if they could. But Alchemy is not currently a system that rewards "working hard" and so I really don't believe that the dislike of it is simply people wanting things easy for themselves and hard for others.

[FightDAHPowah]

Sinivar

Yulister

I remember Gaia that Alchemy would be a challenge.

I think most people expect it to be a challenge for other people, and easy for them.


Really....

Maybe.

Although my perspective is that when someone tells me a system is about challenging hard work to obtain a reward, my mind doesn't jump to tossing real money into a hole and having to be lucky enough to receive components that are so rare that out of a site of many thousands of people, there is not one to be obtained no matter what I do because it simply doesn't exist yet.

No, when I think of challenging hard work, I think of months to years of farming renewable items all across the site to exchange them for high level items. The effort being in the sheer amount of time and effort I need to put in to gather the extremely hefty amount needed depending on the level/value of the end result. I think of the folks that spent literal tons of effort catching rarer fish to exchange them for items and still those items are rare to this day and hunting non-stop in Towns for a moderate amount of bugs to create body dyes.

I'm willing to work hard and farm my butt off on formulas that would make the 500 inks for body dye or the amounts of farmables needed for the GGB formula look like chump change. I've done it before on other MMOs and I'm sure others are willing to roll up their sleeves and do the same if they could. But Alchemy is not currently a system that rewards "working hard" and so I really don't believe that the dislike of it is simply people wanting things easy for themselves and hard for others.

bravo bro! you know also how I feel and we both had been already SUCCESS at crafting in other games where hard work is rewarded instead of luck.

[Eliza Rain]

The worst part is to know that people actually has reached level 10, and destroyed cash items just because the achievements. Now, commoners we're less, and less able to get some expensive CI's, and EI's. Very, very bad, Gaia. *Sigh*

[Miss-dark8607]

Opera Phantomess

This is the face on all Gaia staff right now: emotion_awesome

At this point I really do believe that's their default face.

[Opera Phantomess]

Miss-dark8607

At this point I really do believe that's their default face.

They either have that face on


or this one:


It just depends on the day and what they decide to ******** us sideways with. emotion_donotwant

Hide your face so the world will never find you.

[Nyeha_Cyka]

I agree with this wholeheartedly, and given every cookie I could to support the change proposals. I have been trying since day one to get up in alchemy levels without spending all my money...currently, I'm level 2. Just barely. And now I don't have any items to make the level 2 formulas, so I'm going to have to slow grind, if it's even possible to gain exp. off ones below your level, until I get blessed with shark's blood from a golden giftbox or philosopher's cache.

[rgjh8754]

Sinivar

Yulister

I remember Gaia that Alchemy would be a challenge.

I think most people expect it to be a challenge for other people, and easy for them.


Really....

Maybe.

Although my perspective is that when someone tells me a system is about challenging hard work to obtain a reward, my mind doesn't jump to tossing real money into a hole and having to be lucky enough to receive components that are so rare that out of a site of many thousands of people, there is not one to be obtained no matter what I do because it simply doesn't exist yet.

No, when I think of challenging hard work, I think of months to years of farming renewable items all across the site to exchange them for high level items. The effort being in the sheer amount of time and effort I need to put in to gather the extremely hefty amount needed depending on the level/value of the end result. I think of the folks that spent literal tons of effort catching rarer fish to exchange them for items and still those items are rare to this day and hunting non-stop in Towns for a moderate amount of bugs to create body dyes.

I'm willing to work hard and farm my butt off on formulas that would make the 500 inks for body dye or the amounts of farmables needed for the GGB formula look like chump change. I've done it before on other MMOs and I'm sure others are willing to roll up their sleeves and do the same if they could. But Alchemy is not currently a system that rewards "working hard" and so I really don't believe that the dislike of it is simply people wanting things easy for themselves and hard for others.

This.^

[Reen_Luin]

As always, I totally agree with you Flying.

[Miss-dark8607]

Opera Phantomess

Miss-dark8607

At this point I really do believe that's their default face.

They either have that face on


or this one:


It just depends on the day and what they decide to ******** us sideways with. emotion_donotwant

Hide your face so the world will never find you.

Indeed.