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PART FIVE; THE RECKONING
Thank you to EVERYONE who has been waiting patiently for the continuation of what is shaping up to be one of the largest blunders in Gaia's history. After properly checking, I have discovered ANOTHER MULE. This mule is NOT an artist, they are NOT a moderator account.. THEY ARE A CURRENT ADMIN OF THE SITE, NAMED SANDOKIRI.
You see, I was alerted to this sale by Gash, an item that was purchased from him:
The user in question is Kinogassa.
At first glance, they appear to just be a normal user until you start to do some post digging.
1. [All] [Of these] [TEST threads?]
Don't you think it would have been smarter to do these tests on the dev version of Gaia? WHY would you do these on the live version? I mean, I get this was 2005.. but come on!
2.How did you think that posting this would never get questioned?
3. Again, another lack of a vend history?
Not to mention it took you three years to turn on your trading pass?
4. AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST: THE MULE'S ONE LONE GUILD.
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PART FOUR; The Plot Thickens..
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PART THREE; The Rebuttal
The Rainbow Ticket owner has created a thread in SF: Look at the hush hush money they are trying give him.
I'd like to make it clear NOW that Rina was NOT the only large purchase of that day. There is still trillions of additional gold that is being ignored. There is still also the fact that the mule was wearing a
CREME CRUZ HALO as well.. why are STAFF allowed to win/be granted this item? We never received a final TRUE winners list from this event.. ANOTHER STAFF MULE? WANDERING WAVELENGTH?
Gash Thrashum
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I don't understand how wandering wavelength purchased that when his store says he's made 0 transactions
Never fear, for I have an explanation! I hope you like digging graves because we're going in deeper.
ALL OF WANDERING WAVELENGTH'S PURCHASES EVEN THOUGH HE HASN'T LOGGED ON SINCE 2013?
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PART TWO; 133TGATE, THE GREATEST SLEUTH OF ALL TIME.
(This part was the original intent of the thread when I created it. It hosted ALL of the evidence that has been removed due to privacy on the staff member's part. I have included what could be left according to Zero and added the PM from Zero for proof that I did not edit the OP.)
I decided to do digging on that Licor person to see what I could find, to only unearth that it's the mule of an artist here on Gaia.
133 Trillion is the equivalent of 66 halos+. The user that was taking offers on the ticket originally was receiving offers of 3-4 halos worth. That's a HUGEEEEEEEEEEE discrepancy. Why would anyone want to overpay THAT much for a ticket?
133 Trillion pumped back in to the economy is equivalent to 2-3 successful gold sinks. All of that in the hands of ONE user now.
I did some additional digging of the user Licor, and all my findings are in that first post. It's a mule of artists on the site.
Frankly, I am DISGUSTED to know that staff are behind this account It makes so much sense why you were so quick to jump in this thread. Why do these artists have so much gold? Did you grant it to them? This is horrible if you're generating gold out of thin air.
DETECTIVE EMCEE OUT.
EDIT: ZERO OMEGA/ADMIN REPLY ON PAGE 11 OF MY SF THREAD.
Zero Omega
Hey Gaians,
We would like to explain the details of this situation and share what happened. To be direct, yes, we purchased this ticket along with other items from the Marketplace. The reason for this purchase was to put some of the items into Flynn’s Plunder and put the tickets up into our next gold sink event as a personal tier reward. Allow us to explain:
We opened up the possibility of donating items to Flynn’s Plunder with our LQI policy. We wanted to add some higher tier items into Flynn’s Plunder without expanding the current stock of existing items. We decided the best way to do this would be purchasing the items off of the Marketplace and donating them to Flynn to sell. As for the Rainbow Tickets, we wanted to add these tickets to our next gold sink event. They would be a personal tier run exactly like the ones we’ve done before where if you reach the tier, you have a chance of winning that ticket. We are currently overwhelmed with tickets and, as a result, we did not want to generate a new ticket to add to our backlog. Instead, we decided to purchase an existing ticket and use that. Any items put into Flynn’s Plunder that generate a ticket have been added from an existing stock.
We used a mule account so we could make these purchases. It would have looked weird for a staff account to actually purchase a ticket. We decided to use this account as it had enough gold on it from various tests we did in the past. For clarification on what this means, we use our mule accounts to interact with the community without the attention being drawn to the fact that we are staff. However, sometime we use them to test new features and products when we need to see what the experience is as a regular user, not a staff member. However, we made an error in purchasing the Double Rainbow Ticket, in particular, for 133 trillion gold and we will be reversing the transaction. We have contacted the user about this and we will be handling this as a separate issue.
Unfortunately, this did not pan out exactly as we imagined. The intent of this was to make a good will effort to the user base and give users a chance to get some pretty awesome items. The items will still make their appearance in Flynn’s Plunder tomorrow, the ticket will make its during our next gold sink event.
With that said and us coming out with the information, we want to let you know that we will be editing out the information posted here that identifies staff accounts. We do this not to censor our community, but for the protection of the privacy of our staff members. This is the same courtesy that we would extend to any user who wishes to have their information removed. We understand that situations like this can cause the community to want to figure out answers to their concerns, but that does not give anyone the right to spotlight the information, even if it is publicly available. We hope you understand why we are removing this information.
We do want to sincerely apologize for any distrust we have caused throughout the community by taking these actions. We have already implemented new policies internally to ensure that this situation will never happen again. We hope that this sheds some light on what why this occurred and we thank you for your understanding.
We would like to explain the details of this situation and share what happened. To be direct, yes, we purchased this ticket along with other items from the Marketplace. The reason for this purchase was to put some of the items into Flynn’s Plunder and put the tickets up into our next gold sink event as a personal tier reward. Allow us to explain:
We opened up the possibility of donating items to Flynn’s Plunder with our LQI policy. We wanted to add some higher tier items into Flynn’s Plunder without expanding the current stock of existing items. We decided the best way to do this would be purchasing the items off of the Marketplace and donating them to Flynn to sell. As for the Rainbow Tickets, we wanted to add these tickets to our next gold sink event. They would be a personal tier run exactly like the ones we’ve done before where if you reach the tier, you have a chance of winning that ticket. We are currently overwhelmed with tickets and, as a result, we did not want to generate a new ticket to add to our backlog. Instead, we decided to purchase an existing ticket and use that. Any items put into Flynn’s Plunder that generate a ticket have been added from an existing stock.
We used a mule account so we could make these purchases. It would have looked weird for a staff account to actually purchase a ticket. We decided to use this account as it had enough gold on it from various tests we did in the past. For clarification on what this means, we use our mule accounts to interact with the community without the attention being drawn to the fact that we are staff. However, sometime we use them to test new features and products when we need to see what the experience is as a regular user, not a staff member. However, we made an error in purchasing the Double Rainbow Ticket, in particular, for 133 trillion gold and we will be reversing the transaction. We have contacted the user about this and we will be handling this as a separate issue.
Unfortunately, this did not pan out exactly as we imagined. The intent of this was to make a good will effort to the user base and give users a chance to get some pretty awesome items. The items will still make their appearance in Flynn’s Plunder tomorrow, the ticket will make its during our next gold sink event.
With that said and us coming out with the information, we want to let you know that we will be editing out the information posted here that identifies staff accounts. We do this not to censor our community, but for the protection of the privacy of our staff members. This is the same courtesy that we would extend to any user who wishes to have their information removed. We understand that situations like this can cause the community to want to figure out answers to their concerns, but that does not give anyone the right to spotlight the information, even if it is publicly available. We hope you understand why we are removing this information.
We do want to sincerely apologize for any distrust we have caused throughout the community by taking these actions. We have already implemented new policies internally to ensure that this situation will never happen again. We hope that this sheds some light on what why this occurred and we thank you for your understanding.
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PART ONE; The Beginning of 133TGATE
(start here if you're new to everything that has happened)
This thread is in reference to this thread, but DEFINITELY deserves its own topic.
TL;DR of the above thread and situation detailed below
If you read the thread that was linked in my OP, it's a link to Gash's thread trying to find out if there was an glitch with gold gens. There wasn't, because Zero came in immediately and so did the mule in question.
We learned not even a few pages in that the mule in question was the one that purchased the ticket.
[Before this image was edited to protect the user from getting a warning, it had the LicroSkein user in question as the purchaser]
[See this post here for validity of that claim.]
Additional supporting evidence from Gash's thread about the account in question:
Gash Thrashum
I don't know about you guys, but this doesn't sound like someone with 133 trillion gold.
"I don't purchase gold gens."
"I can't afford a 75b gold sink achievement."
Check out the dates, too. That's only a couple of months ago.
How the account was then able to amass 133 trillion gold for a purchase is bizarre to me. Furthermore, this same account also purchased a brand new item for 1 trillion gold just because:
There's obviously more where that came from if they can throw around their gold and play God with the MP.
If it's true that there wasn't a glitch in the gold gens, how else would a user go from being unable to afford a 75b achievement to purchasing 133 trillion + in items within the span of a couple of months? Any ideas? Their MP sales total and post history aren't showing much activity.
That this user came in here to muddy the waters almost instantly makes me wary.
"I don't purchase gold gens."
"I can't afford a 75b gold sink achievement."
Check out the dates, too. That's only a couple of months ago.
How the account was then able to amass 133 trillion gold for a purchase is bizarre to me. Furthermore, this same account also purchased a brand new item for 1 trillion gold just because:
There's obviously more where that came from if they can throw around their gold and play God with the MP.
If it's true that there wasn't a glitch in the gold gens, how else would a user go from being unable to afford a 75b achievement to purchasing 133 trillion + in items within the span of a couple of months? Any ideas? Their MP sales total and post history aren't showing much activity.
That this user came in here to muddy the waters almost instantly makes me wary.
