▌Project REDLINE ► resurrects when you least expect it

05.18.12 - present

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[nelle oh]

I HAVE A QUESTION!

• I've heard before that copying another artists drawings/style for practice is beneficial, like tracing over the works of Da Vinci might help you with anatomy, or copying your favourite artist's artwork (purely for practice) might help you develop the style you want. Is this true? I definitely have favourite artists that I'd love to be able to draw like, or colour like, but I'm not sure if trying to mimic their art is a big no no and will hurt me in the long run, or actually a good form of practice for a developing artist. I know I should be drawing from life and practicing but when it comes to developing a style I was wondering if what I've read elsewhere is true.
  Thanks for any help ;D

[fishcycle]

I think this is something that some people will have differing personal opinions on, and there may not be a right or wrong answer.

Personally, I think it's perfectly ok to look at a piece an artist has done, and try and duplicate it - for personal use only, though!
Copying can be a great way of learning, though I'd recommend you stay away from tracing? As I feel that really only teaches you how to follow a line, and you might not absorb anything. Whereas if you're looking at it and trying to draw it, that makes you think about how the artist did it and how the forms work and fit together.
Also, obviously don't try and copy 100% of an artist style - though I'm sure you know that already. ;D Just figure out what you like - for example, if you like how a particular artist draws noses, practise drawing some noses like they do. A lot of artists have tutorials on how they draw / colour, they have them there for learning purposes like this. C:
By being influenced and inspired by many different artists, you will begin to develop and perfect your own, individual style.

[WoefulInfinity]

Finni

Man this sounds like an awesome project, totally gonna stalk.... ninja

YOU.

[rhiou]

@nelle oh

I agree with fishcycle on this. Copying is great practice and it's fantastic at picking out what you like and don't like in terms of art and helps you to develop your own unique style in the long run. But by copying, I don't mean tracing over someone's art (which is possible now due to today's advancing technology whaaat), but more of finding a work you like and then trying to figure out how to make the same effects your own way (your own preferred programs, materials, etc). I did this tons of times during the short amount of time I studied art and art history very seriously and also did it in a variety of ways. For example, I preferred doing digital work over traditional work and often tried my hand at repainting famous Baroque, Renaissance, and Mannerist works using a combo of various art programs. In this way, not only did I discover my, I suppose you could call it, "place" in the art field, but also learned new techniques for different effects that were quite original. In the end, you'll also walk away with a sense of pride. The pride of an artist. *u*)/

[sweetspirit4evr]

emotion_bigheart

[rhiou]

WoefulInfinity

Link me?

Wgat bullshit. Kids these days...

What you do is get one of those items and put it in the marketplace for 1g.

Tgen tell them to rebid with LBP.

Honestly lol idk how this generations gonna have jobs lolilil

LOOK.
oh man, sometimes i wish gaia was virtually reality
so like punching someone's avatar is like destroying their monitor
like actually )8

[rhiou]

Abbacus

This is such a cute project! I have to leave in a few minutes, but I've subscribed and I'll be giving it a proper read-through later. <3

*u* YAY thanks~

[rhiou]

Coffee Frappuccino

^ agreed!!!

O HI

I AM
STALKING YOU
FOREVER

[WoefulInfinity]

Vixie Hartlock

OMG she suddenly turned sexy! o A ob I should probably try looking at real photos instead of poses drawn by others. The real thing is a much much better reference. o v ob

fishcycle

o/
Yes, I'd recomend looking at real life references over drawn ones, because people can and will
make mistakes, so it's better to look at the "original". In this case, a real body. C:

nelle oh

I HAVE A QUESTION!

• I've heard before that copying another artists drawings/style for practice is beneficial, like tracing over the works of Da Vinci might help you with anatomy, or copying your favourite artist's artwork (purely for practice) might help you develop the style you want. Is this true? I definitely have favourite artists that I'd love to be able to draw like, or colour like, but I'm not sure if trying to mimic their art is a big no no and will hurt me in the long run, or actually a good form of practice for a developing artist. I know I should be drawing from life and practicing but when it comes to developing a style I was wondering if what I've read elsewhere is true.
  Thanks for any help ;D

rhiou

@nelle oh

I agree with fishcycle on this. Copying is great practice and it's fantastic at picking out what you like and don't like in terms of art and helps you to develop your own unique style in the long run. But by copying, I don't mean tracing over someone's art (which is possible now due to today's advancing technology whaaat), but more of finding a work you like and then trying to figure out how to make the same effects your own way (your own preferred programs, materials, etc). I did this tons of times during the short amount of time I studied art and art history very seriously and also did it in a variety of ways. For example, I preferred doing digital work over traditional work and often tried my hand at repainting famous Baroque, Renaissance, and Mannerist works using a combo of various art programs. In this way, not only did I discover my, I suppose you could call it, "place" in the art field, but also learned new techniques for different effects that were quite original. In the end, you'll also walk away with a sense of pride. The pride of an artist. *u*)/

Quoted for truth. However, here's my personal psychology why:

We learn from our choices.

Consider every drawing as an interpretation of real life - in your own style. You can push features and pick your lines and accents. When you draw from life, these are your choices to make - and as with all learning, we learn from our choices. Even photos are not as good since the camera has still made some choices for you.

However, if you are studying someone else's work, you have every right to master study. It lets you figure out what choices someone else made in their interpretation. However, if you claim these as your choices - well, that's not something a decent person should do. Try not to trace. Because tracing does not let you analyze the work - you are not re-creating through choices, just mechanically. But master copies are called 'studies' for a reason, and I think it is fine if you do them and credit source.

[fishcycle]

Vixie Hartlock

OMG she suddenly turned sexy! o A ob I should probably try looking at real photos instead of poses drawn by others. The real thing is a much much better reference. o v ob

The clothes?o v ob

Alright, here we are ~ hope this is ok ;A;
The thing that stood out most to me was how the dress flared out at the back.
I'm not sure if that was the design, or if it's meant to be blowing in the wind, so I went with the latter o/
Hmm, I don't know the best way to explain this, hehe. But basically, the bottom of dresses have a circumference
and a lot of artist tend to stretch it too much when having it move ~
D-does that make sense? ;o; Anyways, I toned that down a bit in the redline ovob

Another thing that really helps in drawing convincing clothes on a figure is to have it wrap around said figure.
Like the two examples I pointed out in the redline. It gives both the fabric and figure a sense of depth and volume C:

And wrinkles ~ I think there would be some wrinkles at her waist. I imagine the top of the "skirt" part of the dress is rather tight where it bunches up,
so the fabric sitting on top of that might gather and form those wrinkles ~


@ rhiou:
Heeeey bby I still need my mentor id thingy teehee o/

[rhiou]

k-jieun

I HAVE A QUESTION!

• This is mainly for the pixel artists. * u *
  When lining, how do you get smooth, nice lines and not uneven ones like this~?
  I would hope you don't have to go pixel by pixel. ._. (I use PS, by the way.)
  Thank you!
  
  [EDIT] // Also, is there any way to correct your picture if you finish lining it and realize it's a little slanted? ; u ; /sob example

mmm I'm not a super pixel artist god (like the lovelies under the pixels mentor category <3)
but I think I can help a bit (or kind of a tiny add-on maybe to caustic's amazing EVERYTHING). :3 For the uneven lines, it does depend slightly on the program you're using. But for the most part, I believe you'll need to strip away and the rigid edges manually. It may be difficult at first because you don't know which pixels to chip away and sometimes just removing one square makes a big difference, but after some practice, you'll definitely get the hang of it! When I started pixeling, I made use of the zoom function a lot.... like A LOT. Besides the undo button I mean. XD Or sometimes I would just push my chair back a bit to see if everything looked okay. Another thing I would say is BLINK A LOT. Pixeling involves so much eye strain like you wouldn't believe. @_@

[rhiou]

Finni

Man this sounds like an awesome project, totally gonna stalk.... ninja

lol I totally wanted to ask you if you would be interested in being a mentor but then, I'm like super scared of asking people when I don't know if they're busy or not. emo

[WoefulInfinity]

rhiou

Finni

Man this sounds like an awesome project, totally gonna stalk.... ninja

lol I totally wanted to ask you if you would be interested in being a mentor but then, I'm like super scared of asking people when I don't know if they're busy or not. emo

finni is always busy yet always on gaia, lol.

best lurker.

[Coffee Frappuccino]

rhiou

Coffee Frappuccino

^ agreed!!!

O HI

I AM
STALKING YOU
FOREVER

haiii (notifIstalkyoufirst!)

URGH MY LIFE SUCKS SO MUCH

omg. I went from having like 4 hours of class a day to being at work for 9 hours a day +1 hours drive.

URGH. and I come home.. and work on a freaking graphic design s**t and its bedtime /weeps

no time to draw D:

I went to AnimeNorth Saturday though so its not all doom and gloom +_+

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AND MY 2 CENTS.

I think copying -not-tracing is a great way to learn. I find that even if I try really really hard to copy something exactly, it ends up looking nothing like the original because your own style or... (sometimes difference in skill ahah) changes it. So in then end, it all goes to developing your own style! biggrin

[Coffee Frappuccino]

Sry in hindsight I seem to spazz alot.

+_+ But seeing all these amazing artists here makes me want to draw and get better too!!!

Thursday I will set aside at least 2 hours to lurk and draw!!!