Jesus Saves All? Or Only Some?

[Garland-Green]

Jesus died for the sins of everyone.

1 John 2:2
He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins,
and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.

It is up to each and everyone of how we respond to this (John 11:40, Daniel 12:2).
Do we reject his call to accept what he did for us, or do we accept it, and so have the forgiveness available to us applied to our life and person. Right now it is available to you, but not applied.
You have to reach out and accept the gift.

[Islamic Teacher]

Hierarchy of Angels

Jesus is not capable of saving all, when they refuse him. He tried to, to the point of death... but it is our choice, because God granted us a free will. But I would not worry though, because the mercy of God is great, I believe that He can save all, especially those who had not known him, because he solely died for the purpose of his mankind, who had known what they were doing, and are continuously doing so now.

Jesus isn't capable of saving us since he never died in the first place

[Mea quidem sententia]

The New Wineskin

Mea quidem sententia

Lela XX

As the article at this link shows, http://www.tentmaker.org/books/Prevailing.html, Christians accepted belief that hell was not eternal, as the Bible shows, for the first 500 years. It wasn't until the Latins mistranslated the Greek word aionios that they started to believe in eternal damnation. That's when the new "traditions of men" began to replace the teachings of God, much like the Pharisees did in Jesus' time.

I counter that with this and this.

It is interesting that you would cite a group of annihilationists to disprove the arguments against an eternal hell.

Only to demonstrate that the first 500 years wasn't made up of universalists.

I won't be able to reply soon, considering my current state of affairs.

[Hierarchy of Angels]

Islamic Teacher

Hierarchy of Angels

Jesus is not capable of saving all, when they refuse him. He tried to, to the point of death... but it is our choice, because God granted us a free will. But I would not worry though, because the mercy of God is great, I believe that He can save all, especially those who had not known him, because he solely died for the purpose of his mankind, who had known what they were doing, and are continuously doing so now.

Jesus isn't capable of saving us since he never died in the first place

He died, and rose from the dead. That is what I believe. But of course, I agree with you, He isn't dead. He is the way to eternal life. To die from this world, to give up oneself for the sake of others. That is what His death had taught me. Jesus has shown the way. He lived a humble life, and suffered a death he did not deserve. He asked pardon for us all. Forgive them Father for they know not what they do. I cannot be more grateful for such unconditional love he has showered upon us through his own blood. The blood of a God, the God.

[Islamic Teacher]

Hierarchy of Angels

Islamic Teacher

Hierarchy of Angels

Jesus is not capable of saving all, when they refuse him. He tried to, to the point of death... but it is our choice, because God granted us a free will. But I would not worry though, because the mercy of God is great, I believe that He can save all, especially those who had not known him, because he solely died for the purpose of his mankind, who had known what they were doing, and are continuously doing so now.

Jesus isn't capable of saving us since he never died in the first place

He died, and rose from the dead. That is what I believe. But of course, I agree with you, He isn't dead. He is the way to eternal life. To die from this world, to give up oneself for the sake of others. That is what His death had taught me. Jesus has shown the way. He lived a humble life, and suffered a death he did not deserve. He asked pardon for us all. Forgive them Father for they know not what they do. I cannot be more grateful for such unconditional love he has showered upon us through his own blood. The blood of a God, the God.

Incorrect
Jesus son of Mary (peace be upon him) was never killed, rather God saved him and rose him to Heaven and he shall return before the Day of Judgment

That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-
Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise;-
Quran 4:157-158

[NAGATO UZUMAKl]

He saves all those who wants to be saved.

[NAGATO UZUMAKl]

Islamic Teacher

Hierarchy of Angels

Islamic Teacher

Hierarchy of Angels

Jesus is not capable of saving all, when they refuse him. He tried to, to the point of death... but it is our choice, because God granted us a free will. But I would not worry though, because the mercy of God is great, I believe that He can save all, especially those who had not known him, because he solely died for the purpose of his mankind, who had known what they were doing, and are continuously doing so now.

Jesus isn't capable of saving us since he never died in the first place

He died, and rose from the dead. That is what I believe. But of course, I agree with you, He isn't dead. He is the way to eternal life. To die from this world, to give up oneself for the sake of others. That is what His death had taught me. Jesus has shown the way. He lived a humble life, and suffered a death he did not deserve. He asked pardon for us all. Forgive them Father for they know not what they do. I cannot be more grateful for such unconditional love he has showered upon us through his own blood. The blood of a God, the God.

Incorrect
Jesus son of Mary (peace be upon him) was never killed, rather God saved him and rose him to Heaven and he shall return before the Day of Judgment

That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-
Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise;-
Quran 4:157-158

The person is speaking from a Christian perspective. For you to say it is incorrect and provide a verse from the Quran is meaningless.

[Triratna]

Faith saves. heart

[NAGATO UZUMAKl]

Islamic Teacher

Hierarchy of Angels

Jesus is not capable of saving all, when they refuse him. He tried to, to the point of death... but it is our choice, because God granted us a free will. But I would not worry though, because the mercy of God is great, I believe that He can save all, especially those who had not known him, because he solely died for the purpose of his mankind, who had known what they were doing, and are continuously doing so now.

Jesus isn't capable of saving us since he never died in the first place

Yes he did. The bible says so.

^
See what I did there?

[Islamic Teacher]

IVovacane

Islamic Teacher

Hierarchy of Angels

Jesus is not capable of saving all, when they refuse him. He tried to, to the point of death... but it is our choice, because God granted us a free will. But I would not worry though, because the mercy of God is great, I believe that He can save all, especially those who had not known him, because he solely died for the purpose of his mankind, who had known what they were doing, and are continuously doing so now.

Jesus isn't capable of saving us since he never died in the first place

Yes he did. The bible says so.

^
See what I did there?

I was making a statement from a generalized Islamic perspective
Thanks anyway

[NAGATO UZUMAKl]

Islamic Teacher

IVovacane

Islamic Teacher

Hierarchy of Angels

Jesus is not capable of saving all, when they refuse him. He tried to, to the point of death... but it is our choice, because God granted us a free will. But I would not worry though, because the mercy of God is great, I believe that He can save all, especially those who had not known him, because he solely died for the purpose of his mankind, who had known what they were doing, and are continuously doing so now.

Jesus isn't capable of saving us since he never died in the first place

Yes he did. The bible says so.

^
See what I did there?

I was making a statement from a generalized Islamic perspective
Thanks anyway

I already know this. I was just informing that your post wasn't effective.

[Islamic Teacher]

IVovacane

Islamic Teacher

IVovacane

Islamic Teacher

Hierarchy of Angels

Jesus is not capable of saving all, when they refuse him. He tried to, to the point of death... but it is our choice, because God granted us a free will. But I would not worry though, because the mercy of God is great, I believe that He can save all, especially those who had not known him, because he solely died for the purpose of his mankind, who had known what they were doing, and are continuously doing so now.

Jesus isn't capable of saving us since he never died in the first place

Yes he did. The bible says so.

^
See what I did there?

I was making a statement from a generalized Islamic perspective
Thanks anyway

I already know this. I was just informing that your post wasn't effective.

Alright
cool signature by the way

[NAGATO UZUMAKl]

Islamic Teacher

IVovacane

Islamic Teacher

IVovacane

Islamic Teacher

Hierarchy of Angels

Jesus is not capable of saving all, when they refuse him. He tried to, to the point of death... but it is our choice, because God granted us a free will. But I would not worry though, because the mercy of God is great, I believe that He can save all, especially those who had not known him, because he solely died for the purpose of his mankind, who had known what they were doing, and are continuously doing so now.

Jesus isn't capable of saving us since he never died in the first place

Yes he did. The bible says so.

^
See what I did there?

I was making a statement from a generalized Islamic perspective
Thanks anyway

I already know this. I was just informing that your post wasn't effective.

Alright
cool signature by the way

Thankyou.

[Hierarchy of Angels]

Islamic Teacher

Hierarchy of Angels

Islamic Teacher

Hierarchy of Angels

Jesus is not capable of saving all, when they refuse him. He tried to, to the point of death... but it is our choice, because God granted us a free will. But I would not worry though, because the mercy of God is great, I believe that He can save all, especially those who had not known him, because he solely died for the purpose of his mankind, who had known what they were doing, and are continuously doing so now.

Jesus isn't capable of saving us since he never died in the first place

He died, and rose from the dead. That is what I believe. But of course, I agree with you, He isn't dead. He is the way to eternal life. To die from this world, to give up oneself for the sake of others. That is what His death had taught me. Jesus has shown the way. He lived a humble life, and suffered a death he did not deserve. He asked pardon for us all. Forgive them Father for they know not what they do. I cannot be more grateful for such unconditional love he has showered upon us through his own blood. The blood of a God, the God.

Incorrect
Jesus son of Mary (peace be upon him) was never killed, rather God saved him and rose him to Heaven and he shall return before the Day of Judgment

That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-
Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise;-
Quran 4:157-158

With all due respect, this is where our belief differs. Peace be with you, I do not wish to argue. If you say I am incorrect, then you may say so, for I will always be wrong in your eyes, and thine in mine. Our differences cannot be cast aside, but must we be against one another, because of our beliefs? Where wars once waged because Muslims and Christians did not agree with one another. I respect your belief and admire your determination, but you have no chances at moving me from where I stand.

[Islamic Teacher]

Hierarchy of Angels

Islamic Teacher

Hierarchy of Angels

Islamic Teacher

Hierarchy of Angels

Jesus is not capable of saving all, when they refuse him. He tried to, to the point of death... but it is our choice, because God granted us a free will. But I would not worry though, because the mercy of God is great, I believe that He can save all, especially those who had not known him, because he solely died for the purpose of his mankind, who had known what they were doing, and are continuously doing so now.

Jesus isn't capable of saving us since he never died in the first place

He died, and rose from the dead. That is what I believe. But of course, I agree with you, He isn't dead. He is the way to eternal life. To die from this world, to give up oneself for the sake of others. That is what His death had taught me. Jesus has shown the way. He lived a humble life, and suffered a death he did not deserve. He asked pardon for us all. Forgive them Father for they know not what they do. I cannot be more grateful for such unconditional love he has showered upon us through his own blood. The blood of a God, the God.

Incorrect
Jesus son of Mary (peace be upon him) was never killed, rather God saved him and rose him to Heaven and he shall return before the Day of Judgment

That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-
Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise;-
Quran 4:157-158

With all due respect, this is where our belief differs. Peace be with you, I do not wish to argue. If you say I am incorrect, then you may say so, for I will always be wrong in your eyes, and thine in mine. Our differences cannot be cast aside, but must we be against one another, because of our beliefs? Where wars once waged because Muslims and Christians did not agree with one another. I respect your belief and admire your determination, but you have no chances at moving me from where I stand.

Alright
Peace be with you too