Estrogen SUKA
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- Posted: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 20:29:16 +0000
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⌠There is a NEW Pregnancy Support Thread located HERE ⌡
Welcome to the Pregnancy Support Thread.
This thread was created because I felt compelled to offer my support to those Gaian Ladies who are facing pregnancy. Do not get me wrong, men are allowed in here too if they wish to give support or they themselves need support. This thread is geared mostly towards women who are pregnant, wanting to get pregnant, or have been pregnant.
I expect those who enter this thread to be civil, caring, compassionate, and to follow the ToS. Things may get a bit graphic in here since we are dealing with the female anatomy, please refrain from posting borderline porn pictures directly into the thread. Instead I suggest that you offer a link and forewarn your fellow Gaians to what it is.
I understand that some people may feel strongly about Pro-Life or Pro-Choice, but this is not the place to battle out the differences. You may suggest what you think is right for the person you are helping, but do not go crazy and try to force your view on them.
Conversations are naturally allowed in this thread as long as you keep it civil. I rather you not curse if at all possible.
Estrogen SUKA
If you have a problem with another frequent Pregnancy Supporter please take your disagreement/argument to PMs. A thread full of pregnant women is not the place to have a blowout. Many have said how arguments here stress them out just as badly as arguments in real life. Please do not stress out my preggies or I will be forced to take action. Whether that action be a simple PM warning you or me blacklisting those who are arguing. I simply cannot tolerate that type of behavior.
Please be aware that this thread does not support young teens who are trying to conceive just because they want a baby. If you are below the age of 18 and are trying to conceive just because you want to have a "cutesy" baby, you are not going to find support here. I cannot stress this enough! The Pregnancy Support thread in no way wishes to encourage young teenage girls to become pregnant. Thank you.
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Pro-Choice vs. Pro-Life.
(Time to get educated)
Pro-choice describes the political and ethical view that a woman should have complete control over her fertility and pregnancy. This entails the guarantee of reproductive rights, which includes access to sexual education; access to safe and legal abortion, contraception, and fertility treatments; and legal protection from forced abortion. Individuals and organizations who support these positions make up the pro-choice movement.
Some people who are pro-choice see abortion as a last resort and focus on a number of situations where they feel abortion is a necessary option. Among these situations are those where the woman was raped, her health or life (or that of the fetus) is at risk, contraception was used but failed, or she feels unable to raise a child. Some pro-choice moderates, who would otherwise be willing to accept certain restrictions on abortion, feel that political pragmatism compels them to oppose any such restrictions, as they could be used to form a slippery slope against all abortions.
On the issue of abortion, pro-choice campaigners are opposed by pro-life campaigners who argue that the central issue is a completely different set of rights. The pro-life view considers human fetuses and embryos to have the full legal rights of a human being; thus, the right to life of a developing fetus or embryo trumps the woman's right to bodily autonomy, although some pro-lifers believe that abortion should be legal in the case where the woman's life is at serious risk.
For more information on Pro-Choice click here Infomation
Pro-life describes the political and ethical view which maintains that fetuses and embryos are human beings, and therefore have a right to live. It can also be used to indicate opposition to practices such as euthanasia, human cloning, research involving human embryonic stem cells, and the death penalty, but such uses are less common.
On the issue of abortion, attempts by pro-life campaigners to pass laws against abortion are opposed by pro-choice campaigners who argue that the central issue is a completely different set of rights: the human rights of the pregnant woman to choose to terminate her pregnancy or carry it to term. The pro-choice view believes that a woman, and not the government, should have complete control over her fertility and pregnancy, and that this entails the guarantee of reproductive rights.
Stolen from: This website :]
Personhood USA: Need to back off my Preggos.
"What is personhood?
When the term “Person” is granted to a human being, it refers to the presence of a particular set of characteristics that grant that individual certain rights such as the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. In other words, to be a person is to be protected by a series of God given and constitutionally protected rights.
This terrifies the pro-abortion foes!!!
They know that if we clearly define the pre-born baby as a person then they will have the same right to life as all Americans do! This Amendment has the promise plugging the “Blackmun Hole,” a startling admission that if personhood could be established for the pre-born, the arguments in Roe would collapse.
Justice Harry Blackmun wrote in the majority opinion for Roe v. Wade in 1973, “The appellee and certain amici [pro-lifers] argue that the fetus is a ‘person’ within the language and meaning of the Fourteenth Amendment. In support of this, they outline at length and in detail the well-known facts of fetal development. If this suggestion of personhood is established, the appellant’s case, of course, collapses, for the fetus’ right to life would then be guaranteed specifically by the Amendment.”
During Blackmun’s time, the “well-known facts of fetal development” were a far cry from what is known today. Ultrasonography and DNA testing were yet to be invented. In 1973, most held that “life” began at “quickening,” or when a woman first feels movement of the baby in the womb at 18 to 24 weeks. Some even held to the “Recapitulation Theory,” the scientifically debunked notion that the human baby underwent his entire evolutionary cycle in the womb, being first a simple one-celled creature, then later a fish, then later a mammal, then finally a human, which of course now seems absurd.
The science of fetology in 1973 was not able to prove, as it can now, that a fully human and unique individual exists at the moment of fertilization and continues to grow through various stages of development in a continuum (barring tragedy) until natural death from old age.
If the Court considers the humanity of the pre-born child, for which there is overwhelming scientific evidence, it could restore the legal protections of person-hood to the pre-born under the 14th Amendment as Blackmun foretold, stopping abortion in a few and then in all fifty states!
There are essentially two issues which must be resolved concerning unborn embryos and fetuses. The first is, "Are they human beings?" The second is, "Should they be recognized as persons under the law?" We've already established that there is no debate on the first question. It is a matter of plain, objective science. Embryos and fetuses are fully and individually human from the moment of fertilization on. If this were not true, if unborn children were not demonstrably human, there would be no need to even talk about rights of personhood. "Removing a fetus" would be the moral equivalent of pulling a tooth. This, however, is not the case, and so the debate must now enter the political arena.
There is a very real sense in which the need to answer this second question is, in itself, an absurdity. If you look up the word "person" in your average dictionary (we'll use Webster's), you'll find something like this:
Person n. A human being.
A person, simply put, is a human being. This fact should be enough. The intrinsic humanity of unborn children, by definition, makes them persons and should, therefore, guarantee their protection under the law. For more than thirty years, however, this has not been the case. The situation we are left with is this. In America today, there is a huge and singular group of living human beings who have no protection under the law and are being killed en masse every day. Is that not astounding?! It is astounding, but not wholly unprecedented.
There have been at least two other instances in American history in which specific groups of human beings were stripped of their rights of personhood as a means of justifying their horrible mistreatment. African-Americans and Native-Americans both felt the brunt of a system which denied their humanity, stripped their personhood and subjected them to horrors beyond measure. While the legal framework that made such injustice possible has now been removed, it remains firmly in place for unborn Americans.
There remains one, and only one, group of human beings in the U.S. today for which being human is not enough. The inconvenience of their existence has resulted in a legal loophole of shameful proportions. What is a person? A person is a human being (unless, of course, you haven't been born yet, in which case we'll define personhood in any way possible so as to exclude you, kill you and forget you)." PersonhoodUSA.com
What PersonhoodUSA really means for you, the expecting mother.
Seems sweet, doesn't it? All for the glory of God. I call bull and you'll see why when you watch this video on PersonhoodUSA and how it will hurt every pregnant woman in the states.
PersonhoodUSA Harms Pregnant Women: YouTube
They have the right to chain down a pregnant woman and force a c-section on her against her will.
They have the right to charge a woman with MURDER if she has a STILLBORN child. How is this even right?
They have the right to charge a woman with MURDER if she has an abortion! This is insanity!
They have the right to let the mother die if the fetus will live, again...against the mother's will.
They have the right to not allow you to have a home birth.
They say we no longer have the rights to medical decisions once we conceive. This is not right!
Go against this! Rise against it! Stand against it! Just be against it! This is not how a pregnant woman should be treated.
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3rd post: Pregnancy Symptoms, 3 Choices/Premature&Miscarriage Info.
4th post: Trying to conceive.
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