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User Image The Alchemist's Case. The Final Frontier repository of Gaia's most valuable Alchemy Formulas, and a frustrating RIG both to craft and to open. This thread's purpose is to measure and report the probabilities of getting any particular one of the 89 different formulas that can be found within...just so you'll know what you're getting into if you want to try for one.

Here's the data we've gotten so far, from opening 2,670 Alchemist's Cases:

Sorted by Rarity First

User Image 75x Formula 6: Jade and Black Short Keido Wig
User Image 64x Formula 9: Radiant Heart Headband
User Image 62x Formula 7: Black and Red Long Keido Wig
User Image 61x Formula 5: Floating Angel Imp Potion C
User Image 61x Formula 6: White and Gold Short Keido Wig
User Image 60x Formula 6: Blue and Silver Short Keido Wig
User Image 60x Formula 9: T-1011 Cyborg Endo Skeleton
User Image 58x Formula 5: Floating Devil Imp Potion C
User Image 58x Formula 5: Floating Devil Imp Potion E
User Image 58x Formula 7: Gold and Black Long Keido Wig
User Image 57x Formula 8: Gardener's Red Twin Curls
User Image 56x Formula 5: Floating Devil Imp Potion A
User Image 55x Formula 7: White and Navy Long Keido Wig
User Image 54x Formula 5: Floating Angel Imp Potion E
User Image 54x Formula 9: Aquamarine Porridge Locks
User Image 52x Formula 5: Floating Devil Imp Potion D
User Image 50x Formula 8: Rainbow Pixie Wings
User Image 48x Formula 5: Floating Angel Imp Potion F
User Image 48x Formula 5: Floating Devil Imp Potion B
User Image 47x Formula 2: Norman
User Image 47x Formula 8: Gardener's Brown Twin Curls
User Image 47x Formula 9: Violet Porridge Locks
User Image 44x Formula 9: Rose Porridge Locks
User Image 44x Formula 10: Lunarian's Mint Bao
User Image 43x Formula 5: Floating Angel Imp Potion D
User Image 42x Formula 5: Floating Angel Imp Potion B
User Image 42x Formula 8: Gardener's Blonde Twin Curls
User Image 41x Formula 10: Lunarian's Pink Bao
User Image 40x Formula 5: Floating Angel Imp Potion A
User Image 40x Formula 5: Floating Devil Imp Potion F
User Image 35x Formula 7: Low Candy Horns
User Image 34x Formula 4: Uni Candy Horn
User Image 34x Formula 7: Grace Meow
User Image 34x Formula 10: Lunarian's Blonde Bao
User Image 33x Formula 3: MANtis Sr
User Image 33x Formula 4: MANnequin
User Image 33x Formula 7: Jagged Candy Horns
User Image 32x Formula 6: WoMAN
User Image 32x Formula 7: Pokeman
User Image 30x Formula 6: Hooked Candy Horns
User Image 30x Formula 10: Erebus' Moon
User Image 29x Formula 8: MANga-kun
User Image 28x Formula 3: BroMANce
User Image 27x Formula 4: Silly Candy Horns
User Image 27x Formula 6: Arrow Candy Horns
User Image 27x Formula 7: MANthro
User Image 26x Formula 5: VitaMAN
User Image 25x Formula 8: Triple Candy Horns
User Image 25x Formula 9: Lace Meow
User Image 25x Formula 10: Minthamella
User Image 24x Formula 8: Long Candy Horns
User Image 23x Formula 6: Forked Candy Horns
User Image 23x Formula 7: Pointy Candy Horns
User Image 22x Formula 8: Space Meow
User Image 21x Formula 5: BathMan
User Image 21x Formula 5: Single Candy Horn
User Image 21x Formula 7: Liam Companion
User Image 20x Formula 8: Edmund Companion
User Image 19x Formula 8: MANinthemoon
User Image 18x Formula 6: Sasha Companion
User Image 17x Formula 10: Glacemella
User Image 16x Formula 7: Sam Companion
User Image 16x Formula 8: Nicolae Companion
User Image 15x Formula 6: Ruby Companion
User Image 15x Formula 10: Custard
User Image 14x Formula 5: Dual Candy Horns
User Image 14x Formula 9: Ian Companion
User Image 13x Formula 9: Louie Companion
User Image 13x Formula 9: O'Manan
User Image 12x Formula 7: Tall Candy Horns
User Image 12x Formula 10: Cream
User Image 11x Formula 10: Butter
User Image 11x Formula 10: Case Meow
User Image 10x Formula 4: Wicked Loud Horn
User Image 9x Formula 9: Moira Companion
User Image 9x Formula 9: Spiral Candy Horns
User Image 9x Formula 10: Aurora Kitten Star
User Image 9x Formula 10: Cat Faces
User Image 9x Formula 10: Gentleman
User Image 8x Formula 1: Celestial Quest Inizio
User Image 8x Formula 9: Curled Candy Horns
User Image 8x Formula 10: Nice Suit for Work
User Image 7x Formula 1: Angelic Quest Inizio
User Image 7x Formula 10: HARMony
User Image 7x Formula 10: Risky Angels
User Image 4x Formula 1: Fallen Quest Inizio
User Image 3x Formula 1: Demonic Quest Inizio
User Image 3x Formula 1: Devilish Quest Inizio
User Image 2x Formula 1: Risen Quest Inizio


Sorted by Level First

User Image 8x Formula 1: Celestial Quest Inizio
User Image 7x Formula 1: Angelic Quest Inizio
User Image 4x Formula 1: Fallen Quest Inizio
User Image 3x Formula 1: Demonic Quest Inizio
User Image 3x Formula 1: Devilish Quest Inizio
User Image 2x Formula 1: Risen Quest Inizio
User Image 47x Formula 2: Norman
User Image 33x Formula 3: MANtis Sr
User Image 28x Formula 3: BroMANce
User Image 34x Formula 4: Uni Candy Horn
User Image 33x Formula 4: MANnequin
User Image 27x Formula 4: Silly Candy Horns
User Image 10x Formula 4: Wicked Loud Horn
User Image 61x Formula 5: Floating Angel Imp Potion C
User Image 58x Formula 5: Floating Devil Imp Potion C
User Image 58x Formula 5: Floating Devil Imp Potion E
User Image 56x Formula 5: Floating Devil Imp Potion A
User Image 54x Formula 5: Floating Angel Imp Potion E
User Image 52x Formula 5: Floating Devil Imp Potion D
User Image 48x Formula 5: Floating Angel Imp Potion F
User Image 48x Formula 5: Floating Devil Imp Potion B
User Image 43x Formula 5: Floating Angel Imp Potion D
User Image 42x Formula 5: Floating Angel Imp Potion B
User Image 40x Formula 5: Floating Angel Imp Potion A
User Image 40x Formula 5: Floating Devil Imp Potion F
User Image 26x Formula 5: VitaMAN
User Image 21x Formula 5: BathMan
User Image 21x Formula 5: Single Candy Horn
User Image 14x Formula 5: Dual Candy Horns
User Image 75x Formula 6: Jade and Black Short Keido Wig
User Image 61x Formula 6: White and Gold Short Keido Wig
User Image 60x Formula 6: Blue and Silver Short Keido Wig
User Image 32x Formula 6: WoMAN
User Image 30x Formula 6: Hooked Candy Horns
User Image 27x Formula 6: Arrow Candy Horns
User Image 23x Formula 6: Forked Candy Horns
User Image 18x Formula 6: Sasha Companion
User Image 15x Formula 6: Ruby Companion
User Image 62x Formula 7: Black and Red Long Keido Wig
User Image 58x Formula 7: Gold and Black Long Keido Wig
User Image 55x Formula 7: White and Navy Long Keido Wig
User Image 35x Formula 7: Low Candy Horns
User Image 34x Formula 7: Grace Meow
User Image 33x Formula 7: Jagged Candy Horns
User Image 32x Formula 7: Pokeman
User Image 27x Formula 7: MANthro
User Image 23x Formula 7: Pointy Candy Horns
User Image 21x Formula 7: Liam Companion
User Image 16x Formula 7: Sam Companion
User Image 12x Formula 7: Tall Candy Horns
User Image 57x Formula 8: Gardener's Red Twin Curls
User Image 50x Formula 8: Rainbow Pixie Wings
User Image 47x Formula 8: Gardener's Brown Twin Curls
User Image 42x Formula 8: Gardener's Blonde Twin Curls
User Image 29x Formula 8: MANga-kun
User Image 25x Formula 8: Triple Candy Horns
User Image 24x Formula 8: Long Candy Horns
User Image 22x Formula 8: Space Meow
User Image 20x Formula 8: Edmund Companion
User Image 19x Formula 8: MANinthemoon
User Image 16x Formula 8: Nicolae Companion
User Image 64x Formula 9: Radiant Heart Headband
User Image 60x Formula 9: T-1011 Cyborg Endo Skeleton
User Image 54x Formula 9: Aquamarine Porridge Locks
User Image 47x Formula 9: Violet Porridge Locks
User Image 44x Formula 9: Rose Porridge Locks
User Image 25x Formula 9: Lace Meow
User Image 14x Formula 9: Ian Companion
User Image 13x Formula 9: Louie Companion
User Image 13x Formula 9: O'Manan
User Image 9x Formula 9: Moira Companion
User Image 9x Formula 9: Spiral Candy Horns
User Image 8x Formula 9: Curled Candy Horns
User Image 44x Formula 10: Lunarian's Mint Bao
User Image 41x Formula 10: Lunarian's Pink Bao
User Image 34x Formula 10: Lunarian's Blonde Bao
User Image 30x Formula 10: Erebus' Moon
User Image 25x Formula 10: Minthamella
User Image 17x Formula 10: Glacemella
User Image 15x Formula 10: Custard
User Image 12x Formula 10: Cream
User Image 11x Formula 10: Butter
User Image 11x Formula 10: Case Meow
User Image 9x Formula 10: Aurora Kitten Star
User Image 9x Formula 10: Cat Faces
User Image 9x Formula 10: Gentleman
User Image 8x Formula 10: Nice Suit for Work
User Image 7x Formula 10: HARMony
User Image 7x Formula 10: Risky Angels


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A more precise pie chart of this data would hurt to look at (trust me, I've constructed it. 0.< ), so let me toss some percentages at you to give you a rough idea of what we're dealing with.

The most commonly reported formula, the Jade and Black Short Keido Wig, has had 75 draws reported. Out of a total of 2670 draws, that's a 2.81% chance. So even if the formula you want is among the most common, you could still open two dozen Alchemist's Cases and have less than a coin-flip's chance of getting it.

The least commonly reported formula, Risen Quest Inizio, has only been drawn and reported twice. Out of a total of 2670 draws, that's a 0.07% chance. So, roughly one in every 1,250 Alchemist's Cases is going to contain that formula.

The six different Backwings formulas have been drawn (and reported) a total of 27 times. Out of a total of 2670 draws, that's a roughly 1.01% chance to draw a Backwings formula, any Backwings formula.

Good luck! twisted




Can't get enough of gathering probability data? Check out these other threads!

Opening the Base Cache: Probabilities
A thread that does for the base Philosopher's Cache what this one does for the Alchemist's Case.
What Are The Odds? (Collating Crafting Chances)
Check out this thread if you want to know how many times you're likely to fail when crafting a formula!

Pokekaiju Catcher

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Eloquent Informer

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I've updated the data in the first post, but the only info I had to add was the seven Cases I've opened since I made the thread. Also, by request I've added the chance of drawing any of the six Backwings formulas.

Anyone else out there opening Alchemist's Cases?

Pokekaiju Catcher

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We need more data on this thing...

Eloquent Informer

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From now on, I'm going to update the OP every time I get any new data for it. It'll be easier that way. I won't necessarily bother bumping the thread, since one new data point is usually trivial...although, this time, I did break the four-way tie for most common formula.

Lucky Angel

I could have provided soooo much data for this thread. I have opened nearly 1000 cases since this thread was made.

Perhaps I'll inform you from now on. (I have send all my formulas to my mule, to start fresh)

Eloquent Informer

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Wow, it's been a while since this thread was posted to. I just gave the OP a very minor update, so I might as well BUMP while I'm at it!

Vicious Visionary

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Wow, I don't like the odds for them there quest formulas. xd

But I figure I'll try making 100-200 Cases before making a decision whether to continue the quest. smile

Eloquent Informer

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Bump. No further data, but maybe bumping it will get someone who has data to notice the thread.

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Platonix
Bump. No further data, but maybe bumping it will get someone who has data to notice the thread.

Thank you for taking this over :3
I had some issues logging in and whenever I tried to update the old thread, my computer reset and I had to start over. sad

I opened quite a few but I'll let you know the results once I've opened a few hundred more most likely surprised

Godlike Nerd

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I am full of sad crying

40 Cases:

1 x Formula 3: Mantis Sr
1 x Formula 4: MANnequin
1 x Formula 4: Silly Candy Horns
1 x Formula 4: Uni Candy Horn
1 x Formula 5: Floating Angel Imp Potion B
1 x Formula 5: Floating Angel Imp Potion D
2 x Formula 5: Floating Angel Imp Potion F
4 x Formula 5: Floating Devil Imp Potion B
1 x Formula 5: Floating Devil Imp Potion D
1 x Formula 5: Floating Devil Imp Potion E
1 x Formula 5: Vitaman
1 x Formula 6: Blue and Silver Short Keido Wig
2 x Formula 6: White and Gold Short Keido Wig
1 x Formula 7: Jagged Candy Horns
2 x Formula 7: Low Candy Horns
3 x Formula 7: Grace Meow
1 x Formula 7: Black and Red Long Keido Wig
1 x Formula 8: Edmund Companion
1 x Formula 8: Gardener's Blonde Twin Curls
1 x Formula 8: Gardener's Red Twin Curls
1 x Formula 8: MANga-kun
1 x Formula 9: Ian Companion
1 x Formula 9: Louie Companion
1 x Formula 9: Rose Porridge Locks
1 x Formula 9: Violet Porridge Locks
2 x Formula 9: Radiant Heart Headband
1 x Formula 9: T-1011 Cyborg Endo Skeleton
1 x Formula 10: Erebus' Moon
1 x Formula 10: Glacemella
1 x Formula 10: Lunarian's Mint Bao
1 x Formula 10: Lunarian's Pink Bao

emotion_donotwant
Anyone else who have Ice Crystal?

Eloquent Informer

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CherryblueSky's data added to the OP. Could be worse; at least Erebus' Moon is a decent seller...

Loyal Traveler

I crafted one, and got Formula 2: Norman

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