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I hope you all enjoyed the 12hr block format (!?) if so then definitely let us know!! I know we hit a few bumps in the road and some stuff got shifted around, but overall I enjoyed this format! And of course, if you haven't gotten your freebie yet: go visit the sale page or check out the links in the first post!!
The 12hr format was great! It took the stress away, and you didn't need to try and figure out when to be on at all times of the day, or worry about missing something because you were busy at work or couldn't make it on in the few hours something was available.

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it amy
I hope you all enjoyed the 12hr block format (!?) if so then definitely let us know!! I know we hit a few bumps in the road and some stuff got shifted around, but overall I enjoyed this format! And of course, if you haven't gotten your freebie yet: go visit the sale page or check out the links in the first post!!
The 12hr format was great! It took the stress away, and you didn't need to try and figure out when to be on at all times of the day, or worry about missing something because you were busy at work or couldn't make it on in the few hours something was available.

Love to hear that! I (personally) felt like the 12 hour blocks were nice too, but oh my gosh it felt like SO MUCH was thrown at me at a time (reading a big announcement felt daunting at times). Maybe I'd be interested in a mix of 12 and/or 6-hour blocks in the future so I can actually process all the information thrown at me? We'll see what happens in the future!

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    While I definitely found the 12hr format superior, there is a small part of me that misses the frantic chaos of the 2hr schedule, haha. But for everyone's sake, I think the 12hr format should stay.
    Loved the items in the sale!! Happy to have so many new items to play with. User Image - Blocked by "Display Image" Settings. Click to show. Still a little bummed about the direct sale items, but I know we'll see some pretty recolors in the future :3

    Thank you to all of the artists, staff, and thread volunteers who worked on the sale!! User Image - Blocked by "Display Image" Settings. Click to show.

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it amy
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That last Gaia Rewards update was the last surprise of them all!!! I hope you all find something fun in the rewards shop or rediscovered an old favorite!!

I had a lot of fun (and mild stress) with this BFS but thank you to everyone who helped put this Sales Hub together and all the artists n staff who made this all possible!!!! I think my favorite set is Wheel of Fortune — but I think it's because I really like this orange!! BUT PROBABLY, Justice was actual *CHEFS KISS* and that was me when I saw it gaia_right

I almost celebrated thinking there was nothing for me to dote on at midnight, then I remembered tomorrow is December and we have an Angel Item coming our way...!

I hope you all enjoyed the 12hr block format (!?) if so then definitely let us know!! I know we hit a few bumps in the road and some stuff got shifted around, but overall I enjoyed this format! And of course, if you haven't gotten your freebie yet: go visit the sale page or check out the links in the first post!!


Thank you guys for the sale this year, I really loved the 12 hour format and hope you guys do it again

Distinct Dabbler

While I list more Negatives than Positives, this list isn't for how I feel about the sale+items as a whole; it's pretty much only feedback/ideas on the process of running the sale except for one of the negatives.

Negatives

Seasonal Styles Advertising: A few days prior had been posting about what I'd hoped to see in a schedule and having direct buys well listed was a big point. Even if it was just a promo issue released a few days early with very little details I think it would help a lot

Ex: On the 23rd a promo image that has 8 large question marks [representing the 4 new series in LV and the 4 Umami] and possibly a bunch of smaller question marks peppered about, but at the bottom of the promo could have words "and some Special Seasonal Styles" with 3 more large question marks and 2 big bundle outlines, would give a LOT more heads up about what to expect. When the schedule launched only 4 Direct Buy items were listed, the Kindred Bundle wasn't on the schedule until later though I do not know if that was from being added later or due to display bugs with the schedule that were fixed over time.

Then even if the promo with silhouettes right before the sale didn't continue to separate the Seasonal Styles as long as there were at least 11 outlines could at least speculate that some of those were from the direct buys.

Schedule bugs: That there were significant display issues early on that were not fixed early were not great. In such cases would be ideal if someone were to go over the first 12-24 hours when the schedule as soon as it goes live to see if anything is amiss with that, such as the missing LV Re-Releases. Then a heads up could be given before it gets actually fixed. This does tie back into Seasonal Styles advertising and giving adequate heads up to people who are trying to plan their budgets carefully.

One Schedule idea: as people have desired a way to quickly tell what shop things are in: color bars that precede the icon [like a 10-15 wide bar, 30px high to pair nicely next to the icons, that was color coded with what shop it's in [button to sort by a shop would be in that color to act as a key]

Not-Released bugs: One of the plus sides of having fewer updates is that hopefully there's less times at which someone could have a reminder to check all the new items work. Potentially anyway, Frigid Empress of Ice was missing for the majority of the time the bundle was first in shop [although as it persisted to be missing longer than any of the other items I'm aware of it occurring to, the hang up could have been more difficult to resolve and not so much a fault of staff not noticing sooner to start the process of getting it working]

Item Names: It's more the theme of the sale that is the root of the issue perhaps, but lots of these new items have very limited tag searching potential. The easiest way to find many of these items and their future recolors / recolored poses is going to with the "Sort By; Newest Items" setting which is not ideal. While many are tagged "blackfriday2020" items have a tendency to lose such identifiers in future recolors or in their split off poses/user recolors.

Rewards: not so much having so many Rewards but because there were so many there was more potential for typo issues, over the last few days heard of at least 2 cases where the reward and it's grant weren't aligned for a bit. So Rewards is a type of item release that may need more manual checking once it goes live [which I consider a downside as it's more tedious for the Staff to have to maintain so many items]. Some great deals have been offered there, with more items dropping in Star Cost than ones that went up from their prior appearance in Rewards. so that's a positive.

Positives

12 hour cycles: less timing stress for purchasers and hopefully staff too.

Grab Bag fails: being stuffed with cheaper bundles rather than random thematic new recolors is a plus. I mean of course everyone wants to get the big prizes, but having a few items as a consolation prize doesn't deflate in quite as spectacular fashion as some of filler items of the past.

random negative: been an energy draining week irl, don't wanna spend energy on Angel Item guess, but the hat looks like a nice shape, probably won't play nice with horns though :p

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Not a perfect bfs, but definitely my fave of all bfs! I love the tarot theme this year. My only gripe that the tags are inconsistent. Only New Moon has bfs2020 tags which is easier to type while some recolors do not even have Blackfriday2020 tags. To the staff, please take time to check the items and bundles! Also, the broken images in the schedule. Please no more of this so people could prepare.

This is also the firstest sale that I nearly need all the new items and there's been great must-have unisex items and old item recolors. I wish Man of Your Nightmares had a recolor for rewards too since it fits the theme, and a new First Wishes recolor too! I'm iffy on the new Lightbringer recolor cause that item's been recolored many times already. There are better candidates like Pretentious Prince, Celestial Festival trio or even the Summer Sale 2020 items.

Thank you Sales Hub team for staying in late nights and mornings to prepare and finish this thread!

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as someone who works full time, the 12 hour schedule was nice, but like i read above, sometimes the announcements were suuuper daunting to read
so i kind of liked the periodic 2 hour releases, but 6 hour time to buy?

some great items! loved the new moon item and the wheel of fortune. having them be direct buy was super hard, but i was lucky to snag them off the mp. SUPER happy to see skyward make a return in the winter <:
also aurora sanctum sophia is beautiful
was also super super happy to finally snag some of my unlisted wishlist items since a few of them popped back up in bundles during the sale!!

WHAT I REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY WISHED FOR THIS BFS - tickets in the cs ; A;
and no, not in that 200kgc bundle good lord

overall pretty happy with the BFS, but i think i enjoyed the summer sale more~

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my one major criticism is the fact that Gaia should take into account that they have no refund system and think abt that for good reason: people pre-emptively buy gc thinking a release will be via gc and then it's direct buy. that s**t ain't cool and now the user can potentially be out money. i'd like there to be some sort of system or symbol saying an item will be gc only or direct buy before it proper screws someone over.
What are you actually suggesting here? The promo page had a direct buy tab, although I'm not sure if it was properly up to date or not since they didn't have the last day until...the last day. Having s**t organized should have happened, thats for sure. Now I don't understand why users would buy gc preemptively not even knowing anything about the sale. I don't really think that kind of mentality should be rewarded, especially when it's going to cost Gaia paypal tax to reverse the sale ( Gaia is never going to do refunds for real life cash for this reason ) . Eat the gc and use it at a later date, it is highly unlikely that there will be NO items someone would want to buy eventually. Or B) why not just buy gc when you can confirm what shop its going in for what amount? There's always direct buys with sales and rigs, don't set yourself up for failure when you don't have to. It was user error, and while Gaia didn't help by being vauge, Gaia certainly didn't put peoples credit cards into the paypal machine.

Assumptions makes an a** out of you and me!
I think the big issue actually lies in the fact that we aren't given the schedule for the sale at least 24 hours in advance. There's nothing wrong with buying GC ahead of time for the sale; I know some people that start saving up in early October, at the latest, for the BFS. That's been something done for years not only during BFS, but the summer sale as well. It's a good idea, given how extensive these sales are and how pricy they can be between all of the different releases we get, and how these sales are notorious for ticket sales/bundles with tickets, like what we had this year.

Direct buys in sales like this is still a fairly new concept. It's not something that is entirely a habit for people to factor in because it's only started to be a major system over the past year or so. But also, people have been very adamant with opposition to direct buys in these sales, largely because no one is given enough notice. People that either have saved up GC for weeks/months for the sale or people that can only have a certain budget to spend on Gaia basically get screwed over because they hadn't been told well ahead of time that some items are only direct buy. So now people with saved up GC have to fight the MP or trades to get those items, and people with specific budgets are forced to choose between getting a lot more GC for their money with the bonuses and the like or spending part of their funds strictly on one or two items. And it sucks for the consumers for this reason.

Let's just use this sale for an example: the schedule was found out probably about 30 minutes before the sale actually went into effect. When you looked at that schedule at first, the direct buy items were NOT on the schedule under the direct buy tab. They weren't under any tab except for "all". So it gave NO hints as to what they were being categorized as. This is where the suggestion of having a proper symbol on the items would also help, because we've all learned that the schedule system we have right now has been bugged all sale. But guess what happened at midnight? Sale started, and that was the first time people were learning about the direct buy items. Schedule was fixed shortly after the sale started to reflect this, which then just rubbed more salt onto the wound, as it were. So again, people were pissed off to find out about the direct buy items at such a short notice.

Gaia isn't going to give refunds for GC bought ahead for these sales, and yes, people can just use it for something else down the line. However, what Gaia should try and do is give us the schedule earlier than waiting until the sale begins so we can properly budget and not waste our money and/or be screwed out of buying things we'd like because they categorized them into a different purchase system. 24 hours notice, at the very minimum, can make a WORLD of difference for consumers, as well as for morale for the sale overall.
The sale schedule was super sketch. Nobody had any clue the sale would even start except a staff member posted that it would. We didn't get any silhouettes until almost 6pm the day of. At midnight the schedule was question marks with only a couple of items and the items weren't in the CS for another 10 mins. Nobody knew where the pets were until noon ( ? ) of day 4. For sure there was a bouquet of oopsie-daisies that I hope gets fixed next sale. Not even sure how it happened this sale, the staff is really good!!

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Background as a freebie was 10000% best thing to do thank you for that!!!!!

12hour format: It was nice, because I could just check the schedule before had and make a decision if i wanted to buy before or after work. At the same time it sorta made boring after the releases. Maybe 8 hours might be better? I dunno...

Direct sale Items: We should get more of a warning if there is going to be direct sale items/bundles. For Black Friday a lot of us buy GC early to save up for what we might want. I was barely luckily to be able to afford some of the direct buy items. If I had known there were going to be those many items as direct buy I would have save more for the sale and not turned it into GC.

Star Rewards: WOO Was I happy to see all those star rewards over the days! I managed to use almost all my stars which where expiring fast! Thank you so much!!! The rewards are also placing some of those items into the marketplace were they have been asked for for a while.

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yess to the 12 hr blocks!!

i liked the theme but i pretty much like every sale theme and core CI theme lol

the items were all awesome incl the new recolors and the background freebie yayyy

also very glad the halo/laurel/etc mini rigs came back, managed to get more laurels (that i'll never use) which i missed in the past

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I wasn't able to post any thoughts on the items during the sale but I enjoyed it.
I loved and wishlisted a lot of items!


Fated Figments rig was really nice.
I wishlisted majority of the items in it, the veil and the flamepoints being my favorites.
And I like the warm set better hehe


Brand new all sale long items were all really beautiful honestly. I loved Death even! It kind of looked like a partner item for In Peace He Sleeps to me xD

The New Moon was amazing too, I just love star prints etc on clothes, space related designs I'm a huge fan of!
It reminds me of this short webtoon I read called The Boy and The Moon.

The best among them was Wheel of Fortune for sure though! I loooooved the hair a lot emo


The Umami Drops all have been nice and unique too except for Cat Tower, it wasn't my style at all.
I wanted to like the background it's kinda nice but the pixeling threw me off for some reason. Actually I thought it was an older umami release at first o.o
The Hermit was hands down the best.


Other items I liked and wishlisted are Strength, The World and The Sorcerer. I don't remember how they were sold if they were umami or not anymore but the designs were really great~


The freebie was nice too, lol. It had more detail than some of the background we get in the monthly CIs User Image - Blocked by "Display Image" Settings. Click to show.

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When will raffle winners be announced, those who bought the grab bags. Thank you

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When will raffle winners be announced, those who bought the grab bags. Thank you

Unfortunately, they didn't say that there would be an announcement. Only that winners would be contacted and awarded on the 2nd.

Sucks because we can't confirm if they actually gave out the prizes. Then people would just let it slip their minds and forget about it...

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i wished the recolors weren't chance items though

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