The Abortion Debate

[Cherry Cheri]

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OH ya, a fetus is real threat to humanity!!! what exactly has a fetus done to make it uninnocent? and murder is taking a life purpously...hhmmmm, choice and taking a life.....sounds like murder to me!

A fetus isn't guilty, but it isn't innocent, either. Duality of nature states that there must be guilt for there to be innocence, and a fetus has not had a chance for either.

And, if that's how you define murder, then is the death penalty murder? Is war murder? Is making eggs murder?

What makes the fetus' life more important than the life of an animal?

a fetus will grow into a human...thats what makes it more important. and all humans are created innocent. it's alive...you can't say it's not. the baby moves and grows and needs nurishment.

A fetus might grow into a human. Just like I might become President of the United States. But I'm not allowed to veto Congress. Why not? If the fetus is allowed rights for what it might be, should I not be allowed rights for what I might be?

And, yes, all human beings are BORN innocent. Once they have the capacity to be guilty, that is. But that's a moot point, as it deals with philosophies I have a sinking suspicion you don't know of.

And I never said a fetus wasn't alive. I want to know why its life is more important than that of an enemy of the state, a criminal, or an animal.

humans are above other animals. we have eternal souls, thay do not. you don't kill enemys of the state, and i am not supportive of the death sentance, the child should have the same rights as everyone...letting it live isn't giving it more rights

So, you can prove that humans have souls. And that animals do not also have souls?

[lymelady]

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Abortion is murder. And you do have a choice, keep the child or give for adoption, but it's not the woman's choice. It's BOTH parent's choice. if you think your to young to have a baby you should probably keep you pants on. if you've been raped, put the kid up for adoption. don't murder an innocent life

Abortion isn't murder. Murder is the illegal killing of someone with malicious intent. Abortion is not illegal, nor is it malicious in its intent. Also, it doesn't kill someone.

Also, a fetus is not innocent.

OH ya, a fetus is real threat to humanity!!! what exactly has a fetus done to make it uninnocent? and murder is taking a life purpously...hhmmmm, choice and taking a life.....sounds like murder to me!

A fetus isn't guilty, but it isn't innocent, either. Duality of nature states that there must be guilt for there to be innocence, and a fetus has not had a chance for either.

And, if that's how you define murder, then is the death penalty murder? Is war murder? Is making eggs murder?

What makes the fetus' life more important than the life of an animal?

a fetus will grow into a human...thats what makes it more important. and all humans are created innocent. it's alive...you can't say it's not. the baby moves and grows and needs nurishment.

A fetus might grow into a human. Just like I might become President of the United States. But I'm not allowed to veto Congress. Why not? If the fetus is allowed rights for what it might be, should I not be allowed rights for what I might be?

And, yes, all human beings are BORN innocent. Once they have the capacity to be guilty, that is. But that's a moot point, as it deals with philosophies I have a sinking suspicion you don't know of.

And I never said a fetus wasn't alive. I want to know why its life is more important than that of an enemy of the state, a criminal, or an animal.

Wait, newborns have the capacity to be guilty?

And really, why is the life of an infant worth more than that of an animal? There are animals more intelligent. I guess that only really applies if you think an infant is worth more than a cow though, so I shouldn't really assume you believe this. You may be someone who believes infanticide is okay and killing children is acceptable up to a certain point based on mental capacity.

[Heart of the Fallen Angel]

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OH ya, a fetus is real threat to humanity!!! what exactly has a fetus done to make it uninnocent? and murder is taking a life purpously...hhmmmm, choice and taking a life.....sounds like murder to me!

A fetus isn't guilty, but it isn't innocent, either. Duality of nature states that there must be guilt for there to be innocence, and a fetus has not had a chance for either.

And, if that's how you define murder, then is the death penalty murder? Is war murder? Is making eggs murder?

What makes the fetus' life more important than the life of an animal?

a fetus will grow into a human...thats what makes it more important. and all humans are created innocent. it's alive...you can't say it's not. the baby moves and grows and needs nurishment.

A fetus might grow into a human. Just like I might become President of the United States. But I'm not allowed to veto Congress. Why not? If the fetus is allowed rights for what it might be, should I not be allowed rights for what I might be?

And, yes, all human beings are BORN innocent. Once they have the capacity to be guilty, that is. But that's a moot point, as it deals with philosophies I have a sinking suspicion you don't know of.

And I never said a fetus wasn't alive. I want to know why its life is more important than that of an enemy of the state, a criminal, or an animal.

humans are above other animals. we have eternal souls, thay do not. you don't kill enemys of the state, and i am not supportive of the death sentance, the child should have the same rights as everyone...letting it live isn't giving it more rights

Since you're bringing a soul into the arguement, prove the existence of a soul, then prove animals don't have them

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Heart of the Fallen Angel

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Abortion is murder. And you do have a choice, keep the child or give for adoption, but it's not the woman's choice. It's BOTH parent's choice. if you think your to young to have a baby you should probably keep you pants on. if you've been raped, put the kid up for adoption. don't murder an innocent life

Abortion is not murder, don't you dare even try to call abortion murder ever again, it's not. Here, let me give you the LEGAL definition of murder, which explains why abortion is NOT and NEVER will be murder. bolding and size on emphasis for relevance to debate. Please, read it, understand it, and learn something, and for god's sake, stop misusing words.

Law.com says

Murder
n. the killing of a human being by a sane person, with intent, malice aforethought (prior intention to kill the particular victim or anyone who gets in the way) and with no legal excuse or authority. In those clear circumstances, this is first degree murder. By statute, many states consider a killing in which there is torture, movement of the person before the killing (kidnapping) or the death of a police officer or prison guard, or it was as an incident to another crime (as during a hold-up or rape), to be first degree murder, with or without premeditation and with malice presumed. Second degree murder is such a killing without premeditation, as in the heat of passion or in a sudden quarrel or fight. Malice in second degree murder may be implied from a death due to the reckless lack of concern for the life of others (such as firing a gun into a crowd or bashing someone with any deadly weapon). Depending on the circumstances and state laws, murder in the first or second degree may be chargeable to a person who did not actually kill, but was involved in a crime with a partner who actually did the killing or someone died as the result of the crime. Example: In a liquor store stick-up in which the clerk shoots back at the hold-up man and kills a bystander, the armed robber can be convicted of at least second degree murder. A charge of murder requires that the victim must die within a year of the attack. Death of an unborn child who is "quick" (fetus is moving) can be murder, provided there was premeditation, malice and no legal authority. Thus, abortion is not murder under the law. Example: Jack Violent shoots his pregnant girlfriend, killing the fetus. Manslaughter, both voluntary and involuntary, lacks the element of malice aforethought.

I'll call it what it is! MURDER MURDER! it's not illeagal...yet, but i will protest at city hall, and i'll go to DC with my peers and rally for life, IT IS MURDER! deal with it! you are killing a life!!! MURDER! and yes, I dare to say it again!

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Heart of the Fallen Angel

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linaloki

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OH ya, a fetus is real threat to humanity!!! what exactly has a fetus done to make it uninnocent? and murder is taking a life purpously...hhmmmm, choice and taking a life.....sounds like murder to me!

A fetus isn't guilty, but it isn't innocent, either. Duality of nature states that there must be guilt for there to be innocence, and a fetus has not had a chance for either.

And, if that's how you define murder, then is the death penalty murder? Is war murder? Is making eggs murder?

What makes the fetus' life more important than the life of an animal?

a fetus will grow into a human...thats what makes it more important. and all humans are created innocent. it's alive...you can't say it's not. the baby moves and grows and needs nurishment.

A fetus might grow into a human. Just like I might become President of the United States. But I'm not allowed to veto Congress. Why not? If the fetus is allowed rights for what it might be, should I not be allowed rights for what I might be?

And, yes, all human beings are BORN innocent. Once they have the capacity to be guilty, that is. But that's a moot point, as it deals with philosophies I have a sinking suspicion you don't know of.

And I never said a fetus wasn't alive. I want to know why its life is more important than that of an enemy of the state, a criminal, or an animal.

humans are above other animals. we have eternal souls, thay do not. you don't kill enemys of the state, and i am not supportive of the death sentance, the child should have the same rights as everyone...letting it live isn't giving it more rights

Since you're bringing a soul into the arguement, prove the existence of a soul, then prove animals don't have them

i don't have proof but, i have my faith, my religion. I'm pretty sure i have the right to that!

[Cherry Cheri]

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Heart of the Fallen Angel

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Abortion is murder. And you do have a choice, keep the child or give for adoption, but it's not the woman's choice. It's BOTH parent's choice. if you think your to young to have a baby you should probably keep you pants on. if you've been raped, put the kid up for adoption. don't murder an innocent life

Abortion is not murder, don't you dare even try to call abortion murder ever again, it's not. Here, let me give you the LEGAL definition of murder, which explains why abortion is NOT and NEVER will be murder. bolding and size on emphasis for relevance to debate. Please, read it, understand it, and learn something, and for god's sake, stop misusing words.

Law.com says

Murder
n. the killing of a human being by a sane person, with intent, malice aforethought (prior intention to kill the particular victim or anyone who gets in the way) and with no legal excuse or authority. In those clear circumstances, this is first degree murder. By statute, many states consider a killing in which there is torture, movement of the person before the killing (kidnapping) or the death of a police officer or prison guard, or it was as an incident to another crime (as during a hold-up or rape), to be first degree murder, with or without premeditation and with malice presumed. Second degree murder is such a killing without premeditation, as in the heat of passion or in a sudden quarrel or fight. Malice in second degree murder may be implied from a death due to the reckless lack of concern for the life of others (such as firing a gun into a crowd or bashing someone with any deadly weapon). Depending on the circumstances and state laws, murder in the first or second degree may be chargeable to a person who did not actually kill, but was involved in a crime with a partner who actually did the killing or someone died as the result of the crime. Example: In a liquor store stick-up in which the clerk shoots back at the hold-up man and kills a bystander, the armed robber can be convicted of at least second degree murder. A charge of murder requires that the victim must die within a year of the attack. Death of an unborn child who is "quick" (fetus is moving) can be murder, provided there was premeditation, malice and no legal authority. Thus, abortion is not murder under the law. Example: Jack Violent shoots his pregnant girlfriend, killing the fetus. Manslaughter, both voluntary and involuntary, lacks the element of malice aforethought.

I'll call it what it is! MURDER MURDER! it's not illeagal...yet, but i will protest at city hall, and i'll go to DC with my peers and rally for life, IT IS MURDER! deal with it! you are killing a life!!! MURDER! and yes, I dare to say it again!

Yes, lets use large red letters, that will prove your point. Who needs to actually provide sources...

[Heart of the Fallen Angel]

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Heart of the Fallen Angel

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Abortion is murder. And you do have a choice, keep the child or give for adoption, but it's not the woman's choice. It's BOTH parent's choice. if you think your to young to have a baby you should probably keep you pants on. if you've been raped, put the kid up for adoption. don't murder an innocent life

Abortion is not murder, don't you dare even try to call abortion murder ever again, it's not. Here, let me give you the LEGAL definition of murder, which explains why abortion is NOT and NEVER will be murder. bolding and size on emphasis for relevance to debate. Please, read it, understand it, and learn something, and for god's sake, stop misusing words.

Law.com says

Murder
n. the killing of a human being by a sane person, with intent, malice aforethought (prior intention to kill the particular victim or anyone who gets in the way) and with no legal excuse or authority. In those clear circumstances, this is first degree murder. By statute, many states consider a killing in which there is torture, movement of the person before the killing (kidnapping) or the death of a police officer or prison guard, or it was as an incident to another crime (as during a hold-up or rape), to be first degree murder, with or without premeditation and with malice presumed. Second degree murder is such a killing without premeditation, as in the heat of passion or in a sudden quarrel or fight. Malice in second degree murder may be implied from a death due to the reckless lack of concern for the life of others (such as firing a gun into a crowd or bashing someone with any deadly weapon). Depending on the circumstances and state laws, murder in the first or second degree may be chargeable to a person who did not actually kill, but was involved in a crime with a partner who actually did the killing or someone died as the result of the crime. Example: In a liquor store stick-up in which the clerk shoots back at the hold-up man and kills a bystander, the armed robber can be convicted of at least second degree murder. A charge of murder requires that the victim must die within a year of the attack. Death of an unborn child who is "quick" (fetus is moving) can be murder, provided there was premeditation, malice and no legal authority. Thus, abortion is not murder under the law. Example: Jack Violent shoots his pregnant girlfriend, killing the fetus. Manslaughter, both voluntary and involuntary, lacks the element of malice aforethought.

I'll call it what it is! MURDER MURDER! it's not illeagal...yet, but i will protest at city hall, and i'll go to DC with my peers and rally for life, IT IS MURDER! deal with it! you are killing a life!!! MURDER! and yes, I dare to say it again!

The Law disagrees with you completey, as I have already proven. It is not murder, nor will it ever be murder, but you go ahead and protest, I'll simply continue to prove you wrong. By the way, I've proven that it is not murder, can you please prove that it is? Wait, no, that's impossible for you to do, my proof is a legal definition for a legal term from a site that specializes in legal matters, you cannot find a stronger source that will disprove my claim. Seriously, either accept your defeat and concede that I'm right and you're wrong or get the ******** out of ED and go whine on your pro-life boards about how a big mean evil pro-choicer completely PWNed you.

[linaloki]

lymelady

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OH ya, a fetus is real threat to humanity!!! what exactly has a fetus done to make it uninnocent? and murder is taking a life purpously...hhmmmm, choice and taking a life.....sounds like murder to me!

A fetus isn't guilty, but it isn't innocent, either. Duality of nature states that there must be guilt for there to be innocence, and a fetus has not had a chance for either.

And, if that's how you define murder, then is the death penalty murder? Is war murder? Is making eggs murder?

What makes the fetus' life more important than the life of an animal?

a fetus will grow into a human...thats what makes it more important. and all humans are created innocent. it's alive...you can't say it's not. the baby moves and grows and needs nurishment.

A fetus might grow into a human. Just like I might become President of the United States. But I'm not allowed to veto Congress. Why not? If the fetus is allowed rights for what it might be, should I not be allowed rights for what I might be?

And, yes, all human beings are BORN innocent. Once they have the capacity to be guilty, that is. But that's a moot point, as it deals with philosophies I have a sinking suspicion you don't know of.

And I never said a fetus wasn't alive. I want to know why its life is more important than that of an enemy of the state, a criminal, or an animal.

Wait, newborns have the capacity to be guilty?

And really, why is the life of an infant worth more than that of an animal? There are animals more intelligent. I guess that only really applies if you think an infant is worth more than a cow though, so I shouldn't really assume you believe this. You may be someone who believes infanticide is okay and killing children is acceptable up to a certain point based on mental capacity.

The infant's brain works. If it can think, it can have guilt, even if it can't think well. Innocence isn't typically proven until around toddler age.

And, no. It's not mental capacity, it's the fact that it can think, period, the fact that it has legal rights, the fact that I believe in the soul entering the body on first breath, and the fact that I fully believe that humans are superior to animals that makes me against infanticide.

[Heart of the Fallen Angel]

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linaloki

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a fetus will grow into a human...thats what makes it more important. and all humans are created innocent. it's alive...you can't say it's not. the baby moves and grows and needs nurishment.

A fetus might grow into a human. Just like I might become President of the United States. But I'm not allowed to veto Congress. Why not? If the fetus is allowed rights for what it might be, should I not be allowed rights for what I might be?

And, yes, all human beings are BORN innocent. Once they have the capacity to be guilty, that is. But that's a moot point, as it deals with philosophies I have a sinking suspicion you don't know of.

And I never said a fetus wasn't alive. I want to know why its life is more important than that of an enemy of the state, a criminal, or an animal.

humans are above other animals. we have eternal souls, thay do not. you don't kill enemys of the state, and i am not supportive of the death sentance, the child should have the same rights as everyone...letting it live isn't giving it more rights

Since you're bringing a soul into the arguement, prove the existence of a soul, then prove animals don't have them

i don't have proof but, i have my faith, my religion. I'm pretty sure i have the right to that!

You have a right to your faith, but seeing as this is a debate, proof is required for any claim you make. Since you have no proof, your claim is by default disproven, and cannot be used as evidence to support your stance.

[Cherry Cheri]

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Heart of the Fallen Angel

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linaloki

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a fetus will grow into a human...thats what makes it more important. and all humans are created innocent. it's alive...you can't say it's not. the baby moves and grows and needs nurishment.

A fetus might grow into a human. Just like I might become President of the United States. But I'm not allowed to veto Congress. Why not? If the fetus is allowed rights for what it might be, should I not be allowed rights for what I might be?

And, yes, all human beings are BORN innocent. Once they have the capacity to be guilty, that is. But that's a moot point, as it deals with philosophies I have a sinking suspicion you don't know of.

And I never said a fetus wasn't alive. I want to know why its life is more important than that of an enemy of the state, a criminal, or an animal.

humans are above other animals. we have eternal souls, thay do not. you don't kill enemys of the state, and i am not supportive of the death sentance, the child should have the same rights as everyone...letting it live isn't giving it more rights

Since you're bringing a soul into the arguement, prove the existence of a soul, then prove animals don't have them

i don't have proof but, i have my faith, my religion. I'm pretty sure i have the right to that!

Yes, but you do not have a right to force your faith or religion onto others. No one does. And that's all you're really doing. Other people don't believe what you believe so you are trying to force them through law.

[Noora of God]

PhoenixDenz

Been reading through the past few pages, and I honestly have to say, I would have phrased almost exactly how Mipsy did.

To expect me to be friends with somebody who believes that I shouldn't have the right to my own body, that having sex means I consented to carrying an unwanted pregnancy to term, who would force their views on my body, is beyond bullshit.

I will not repsect pro-lifers.
Their arguments are full of crap. None of them have ever held up in a debate.

I despise how they think they have the right to tell me what I can and cannot do with my body.

I hate how they think they get to decide what sex is and isn't for.

Their lack of logical, convincing arguments and insistence on using faulty information and emotional appeals pisses me off, frankly.

I will not be friends with them. I will not respect them. I honestly cannot be friends with someone who believes they have the right to tell em what I can and cannot do with my body. That sort of sheer arrogance pisses me off beyond all measure, and will ruin a friendship.

People are making friends with each other despite some naysayers. Could be the reasons you despise the opposition is because you only encounter them on these tedious debates which looks to me like people talking past each other.

This is why I feel that there is more than a simple communication problem, but in fact an actual language barrier that is hardwired into our brains.

To befriend someone who is your enemy is a wonderful exercise in character development and self mastery. It is rather like strong medicine. If Palestinians and Israelis could make friends, do you not agree that a peace process in the Palestine Levant would be facilitated a little sooner?

I offer you the Protestant Northern Ireland as an example of peacemaking. By making friends between Catholics and Protestants from this region, a new culture shift has transpired, although fragile. Children from Catholic and Protestant families were brought to America for a summertime of making friends. Everyone felt they benefited by it, although prior they had been mortal enemies.

The Protestants told stories later of how they had been told by their older brothers and sisters to throw rocks at the Catholic Children as they walked to school.

These two groups could not have possibly hated each other less than the Pro-Choice and Pro-Life.

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Cherry Cheri

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Heart of the Fallen Angel

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linaloki

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a fetus will grow into a human...thats what makes it more important. and all humans are created innocent. it's alive...you can't say it's not. the baby moves and grows and needs nurishment.

A fetus might grow into a human. Just like I might become President of the United States. But I'm not allowed to veto Congress. Why not? If the fetus is allowed rights for what it might be, should I not be allowed rights for what I might be?

And, yes, all human beings are BORN innocent. Once they have the capacity to be guilty, that is. But that's a moot point, as it deals with philosophies I have a sinking suspicion you don't know of.

And I never said a fetus wasn't alive. I want to know why its life is more important than that of an enemy of the state, a criminal, or an animal.

humans are above other animals. we have eternal souls, thay do not. you don't kill enemys of the state, and i am not supportive of the death sentance, the child should have the same rights as everyone...letting it live isn't giving it more rights

Since you're bringing a soul into the arguement, prove the existence of a soul, then prove animals don't have them

i don't have proof but, i have my faith, my religion. I'm pretty sure i have the right to that!

Yes, but you do not have a right to force your faith or religion onto others. No one does. And that's all you're really doing. Other people don't believe what you believe so you are trying to force them through law.

It's more than just religion!! even in animals, you don't give them abbortions. HELLO! it is a life!

[linaloki]

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linaloki

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OH ya, a fetus is real threat to humanity!!! what exactly has a fetus done to make it uninnocent? and murder is taking a life purpously...hhmmmm, choice and taking a life.....sounds like murder to me!

A fetus isn't guilty, but it isn't innocent, either. Duality of nature states that there must be guilt for there to be innocence, and a fetus has not had a chance for either.

And, if that's how you define murder, then is the death penalty murder? Is war murder? Is making eggs murder?

What makes the fetus' life more important than the life of an animal?

a fetus will grow into a human...thats what makes it more important. and all humans are created innocent. it's alive...you can't say it's not. the baby moves and grows and needs nurishment.

A fetus might grow into a human. Just like I might become President of the United States. But I'm not allowed to veto Congress. Why not? If the fetus is allowed rights for what it might be, should I not be allowed rights for what I might be?

And, yes, all human beings are BORN innocent. Once they have the capacity to be guilty, that is. But that's a moot point, as it deals with philosophies I have a sinking suspicion you don't know of.

And I never said a fetus wasn't alive. I want to know why its life is more important than that of an enemy of the state, a criminal, or an animal.

humans are above other animals. we have eternal souls, thay do not. you don't kill enemys of the state, and i am not supportive of the death sentance, the child should have the same rights as everyone...letting it live isn't giving it more rights

I believe in the soul as well. But you can't really prove that it exists, or that animals don't have them, so that line of reasoning is a tad out. Besides, how do you know a fetus has one? If you're Christian, the Bible states that the soul doesn't enter the body until the first breath.

And, yes, we do kill enemies of the state. It's called war.

And it's not letting it live that gives it "more" rights. It's letting it use a person's body against their will that does.

[Denzorz]

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not all murder is premeditated or illegal.

Someone doesn't know how to use a dictionary.

[url=http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/murder]Merriam-Webster

1: the crime of unlawfully killing a person especially with malice aforethought

Unlawfully meaning illegal.
Person meaning someone who is born.
Malice aforethought meaning premeditation.

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and they are people, they just havn't left the woumb.

No, they aren't people.
They aren't conscious. They have no thought, no feeling, no preferences, no beliefs, nothing.

[url=http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode01/usc_sec_01_00000008----000-.html

US Code TItle 1, 8

(a) In determining the meaning of any Act of Congress, or of any ruling, regulation, or interpretation of the various administrative bureaus and agencies of the United States, the words “person”, “human being”, “child”, and “individual”, shall include every infant member of the species homo sapiens who is born alive at any stage of development.
(b) As used in this section, the term “born alive”, with respect to a member of the species homo sapiens, means the complete expulsion or extraction from his or her mother of that member, at any stage of development, who after such expulsion or extraction breathes or has a beating heart, pulsation of the umbilical cord, or definite movement of voluntary muscles, regardless of whether the umbilical cord has been cut, and regardless of whether the expulsion or extraction occurs as a result of natural or induced labor, cesarean section, or induced abortion.
(c) Nothing in this section shall be construed to affirm, deny, expand, or contract any legal status or legal right applicable to any member of the species homo sapiens at any point prior to being “born alive” as defined in this section.

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oh, and you are ready foe kids and sex at the same time.

No I'm not.
I'm emotionally, mentally, financially, and physically ready to have sex. I have the funds to pay for an abortion and for the copays on my doctors visits for checkups and for my condoms.

I am not ready to raise a kid. I dont' have enough money. I dont' haeva steady job, or a stable home environment. I'm still in school.

Physically, I'm not ready either. I'm too underweight and my body has health problems which would make childbirth dangerous.

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just because you want to have sex doesn't mean your ready.

It isn't just because I want to. It's because I can handle sex.
I can not handle carrying a pregnancy to term.

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and it takes 2 people to make a baby. they are both parents-together-

Sorry, but no.
He contributes sperm. He isn't risking his life.
I am.
He isn't risking his future.
I am.
He isn't risking his health.
I am.

My body. My risks.
My choice.
I am.

[linaloki]

mychals_username

I'll call it what it is! MURDER MURDER! it's not illeagal...yet, but i will protest at city hall, and i'll go to DC with my peers and rally for life, IT IS MURDER! deal with it! you are killing a life!!! MURDER! and yes, I dare to say it again!

And I'm willing to bet that several pro-choice persons will be there to counter-protest. It isn't murder. Please, deal with it.

And you have yet to explain how the fetus has a higher quality of life than:

1) A criminal.
2) Someone we're at war with.
3) An animal.
4) A bacterium.
5) A cancerous cell.