Teaching of Evolution (your thoughts?)

Do you agree evolution should be taught?

yes	67.3%	[ 1018 ]
no	13.2%	[ 199 ]
I'm not sure.. but I want gold :3	19.5%	[ 295 ]
Total Votes:			[ 1512 ]

[Koravin]

Crushin_Russian

VoijaRisa

Crushin_Russian

I think Evolution should be taught but they should also teach Creationism.

Any reasoning on why the religious concept should be taught when this is blatantly illegal and ruled unconstitutional in 1987?

Did you acctually read my entire comment? roughly 47% of people belive that evolution is a load of bull so you offend 47% of the population by not acknowlaging there beliefs to appese 6% of the population

Creationism isn't science. Why would you teach it in a science class? You know, the whole world thought that the planet was flat and the sun orbited it. Majority doesn't make fact.

[Jaaten Syric]

Crushin_Russian

VoijaRisa

Crushin_Russian

I think Evolution should be taught but they should also teach Creationism.

Any reasoning on why the religious concept should be taught when this is blatantly illegal and ruled unconstitutional in 1987?

Did you acctually read my entire comment?

I'm going to venture a guess and say 'All that was in recognizable English, yes.'

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roughly 47% of people belive that evolution is a load of bull so you offend 47% of the population by not acknowlaging there beliefs

Because appeals to numbers aren't fallacious at all. Fact doesn't care whose toes it steps on little one, and blatant breaches of the law are generally frowned upon.

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to appese 6% of the population

Link evolution to atheism please (after all, you must account for that missing 47% right? And that is of course assuming all 6% believe in the theory to begin with...)

Math isn't your thing, is it?

[Crushin_Russian]

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to appese 6% of the population



Link evolution to atheism please (after all, you must account for that missing 47% right? And that is of course assuming all 6% believe in the theory to begin with...)

Math isn't your thing, is it?

Athiests do tend to not be Creationists and with 47% not believing evolution 53% do belive in evolution so people of religion are split about 50/50. that and since when is the U.S. a judical Oligarcy?

[Jaaten Syric]

Crushin_Russian

Athiests do tend to not be Creationists

Granted, but neither is their allegiance to evolution something to be presumed.

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and with 47% not believing evolution 53% do belive in evolution so people of religion are split about 50/50.

And this is relevant how?

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that and since when is the U.S. a judical Oligarcy?

Never so far as I know. When did the establishment clause go out of style?

[Shokushu]

Felix Frost

no one is listening to my points... either that or they just arnt responding/acknowledging them crying

When you agree with something it's hard to reply to it and riht now the few people who aren't on the side of logic and reason in this thread aren't really responding to anything so much as they're casting a vote but don't want to vote in the poll- it's weird and a little bit dumb.

Crushin_Russian

Shokushu

Crushin_Russian

there was a poll out about 3 weeks ago that showed 47% of the people in the U.S. dont believe evolution exists. now 6% of people claim to not belive in a godand they b***h and complain if god is reference in schools so outside the pledge of allegiance you cant say god in schools without getting in some sort of trouble. That being said, I think Evolution should be taught but they should also teach Creationism.

What percentage of people also want the police to stop giving out speeding tickets except in school zones?
If it was 90% would that automatically mean it would be a good idea?

The differnce is public safety if you were to stop inforcing laws there would be more accidents now how is teaching an alternate point of veiw going to affect public saftey

Actually I need to take it one step further back from safety to flat out quality of life to explain why these are the same.

America has come to rely on technological innovation- it's very important to our economy. If you teach creation next to science you will be doing extreme damage to children's understanding of what science is about and as such there will be fewer scientists and less innovation and pretty soon we will fall behind other countries.
Then we'll just be stupid AND worthless.
To further your beliefs it's actually in your best interest to keep them where they belong.

[Crushin_Russian]

Shokushu

Felix Frost

no one is listening to my points... either that or they just arnt responding/acknowledging them crying

When you agree with something it's hard to reply to it and riht now the few people who aren't on the side of logic and reason in this thread aren't really responding to anything so much as they're casting a vote but don't want to vote in the poll- it's weird and a little bit dumb.

Crushin_Russian

Shokushu

Crushin_Russian

there was a poll out about 3 weeks ago that showed 47% of the people in the U.S. dont believe evolution exists. now 6% of people claim to not belive in a godand they b***h and complain if god is reference in schools so outside the pledge of allegiance you cant say god in schools without getting in some sort of trouble. That being said, I think Evolution should be taught but they should also teach Creationism.

What percentage of people also want the police to stop giving out speeding tickets except in school zones?
If it was 90% would that automatically mean it would be a good idea?

The differnce is public safety if you were to stop inforcing laws there would be more accidents now how is teaching an alternate point of veiw going to affect public saftey

Actually I need to take it one step further back from safety to flat out quality of life to explain why these are the same.

America has come to rely on technological innovation- it's very important to our economy. If you teach creation next to science you will be doing extreme damage to children's understanding of what science is about and as such there will be fewer scientists and less innovation and pretty soon we will fall behind other countries.
Then we'll just be stupid AND worthless.
To further your beliefs it's actually in your best interest to keep them where they belong.

first i'd like to thank you for not insulting me but im not saying to teach it to small children im saying to teach it in a high school or collage course where people should be capable of understanding that yes one is a religious point of veiw but you are not wrong for believeing it.

[Felix Frost]

Crushin_Russian

Shokushu

Felix Frost

no one is listening to my points... either that or they just arnt responding/acknowledging them crying

When you agree with something it's hard to reply to it and riht now the few people who aren't on the side of logic and reason in this thread aren't really responding to anything so much as they're casting a vote but don't want to vote in the poll- it's weird and a little bit dumb.

Crushin_Russian

Shokushu

Crushin_Russian

there was a poll out about 3 weeks ago that showed 47% of the people in the U.S. dont believe evolution exists. now 6% of people claim to not belive in a godand they b***h and complain if god is reference in schools so outside the pledge of allegiance you cant say god in schools without getting in some sort of trouble. That being said, I think Evolution should be taught but they should also teach Creationism.

What percentage of people also want the police to stop giving out speeding tickets except in school zones?
If it was 90% would that automatically mean it would be a good idea?

The differnce is public safety if you were to stop inforcing laws there would be more accidents now how is teaching an alternate point of veiw going to affect public saftey

Actually I need to take it one step further back from safety to flat out quality of life to explain why these are the same.

America has come to rely on technological innovation- it's very important to our economy. If you teach creation next to science you will be doing extreme damage to children's understanding of what science is about and as such there will be fewer scientists and less innovation and pretty soon we will fall behind other countries.
Then we'll just be stupid AND worthless.
To further your beliefs it's actually in your best interest to keep them where they belong.

first i'd like to thank you for not insulting me but im not saying to teach it to small children im saying to teach it in a high school or collage course where people should be capable of understanding that yes one is a religious point of veiw but you are not wrong for believeing it.

Belief is not a matter for the schools. College and University maybe as part of religious studies or something but Public schools are supposed to be neutral. Evolution can only be removed from the curriculum if something more feasible replaces it. Im afraid a theory that relies on an unfounded assumption that there is a divine being is not feasible enough.

[Moon Dream]

Because I'm big on religious rights, I believe that all the options (ie Darwinism, Creationism, etc.) should be covered briefly and the student should be allowed to make up their own mind on the matter. There's no sense in forcing anything down anyone's throat.

[chibi-faolan]

Moon Dream

Because I'm big on religious rights, I believe that all the options (ie Darwinism, Creationism, etc.) should be covered briefly and the student should be allowed to make up their own mind on the matter. There's no sense in forcing anything down anyone's throat.

The difference is that Darwin's theory and, more importantly, the theory of evolution, are not religious.

Furthermore, the question is not whether religious mythology should be taught as factual science in public schools, which is, in fact, illegal, but whether evolution should be taught. Since it is an integral part of life science, then of course there is no question that a balanced, objective education requires the teaching of evolution and the omission of mythological fantasies.

[Felix Frost]

chibi-faolan

Moon Dream

Because I'm big on religious rights, I believe that all the options (ie Darwinism, Creationism, etc.) should be covered briefly and the student should be allowed to make up their own mind on the matter. There's no sense in forcing anything down anyone's throat.

The difference is that Darwin's theory and, more importantly, the theory of evolution, are not religious.

Furthermore, the question is not whether religious mythology should be taught as factual science in public schools, which is, in fact, illegal, but whether evolution should be taught. Since it is an integral part of life science, then of course there is no question that a balanced, objective education requires the teaching of evolution and the omission of mythological fantasies.

thank you so much... ive been saying roughly that in my own posts but either no one was listening or I was wording it terribly lol

[chibi-faolan]

Felix Frost

chibi-faolan

Moon Dream

Because I'm big on religious rights, I believe that all the options (ie Darwinism, Creationism, etc.) should be covered briefly and the student should be allowed to make up their own mind on the matter. There's no sense in forcing anything down anyone's throat.

The difference is that Darwin's theory and, more importantly, the theory of evolution, are not religious.

Furthermore, the question is not whether religious mythology should be taught as factual science in public schools, which is, in fact, illegal, but whether evolution should be taught. Since it is an integral part of life science, then of course there is no question that a balanced, objective education requires the teaching of evolution and the omission of mythological fantasies.

thank you so much... ive been saying roughly that in my own posts but either no one was listening or I was wording it terribly lol

Hehe I've been saying it over and over for days now -- I've worked it down to a very concise jab that kills on contact... and that's evolution for you! rofl

[Mr Bennet]

Moon Dream

Because I'm big on religious rights, I believe that all the options (ie Darwinism, Creationism, etc.) should be covered briefly and the student should be allowed to make up their own mind on the matter. There's no sense in forcing anything down anyone's throat.

Sacrificing the understanding of reality, lying to children, and pissing on the Constitution for the sake of political correctness and ignorance-based relativity? When do we start?

[VoijaRisa]

Crushin_Russian

Did you acctually read my entire comment? roughly 47% of people belive that evolution is a load of bull so you offend 47% of the population by not acknowlaging there beliefs to appese 6% of the population

Yes. That's what we call a non sequitor. It has nothing to do with anything.

Just because a lot of people want to believe it doesn't mean that they get to ignore the law.

[VoijaRisa]

Moon Dream

Because I'm big on religious rights, I believe that all the options (ie Darwinism, Creationism, etc.) should be covered briefly and the student should be allowed to make up their own mind on the matter. There's no sense in forcing anything down anyone's throat.

Well, how do you feel about lying to students?

Telling them that creationism is supported by evidence, or is a valid scientific theory is nothing short of an outright lie.

Last I checked, that doesn't go over too well.

[[Monochromatic Rainbow]]

I think Christianity is to blame, call me predjudice, but that's the truth. Because so many Americans are close-minded Christians, Darwin's Theory isn't taught in many schools, including mine. Probably because the schools are afraid they'll be sued for teaching "Blasphemy" or whatever. It's the same reason cloning research was slowed, because cloning is a sin, playing God.