Teaching of Evolution (your thoughts?)

Do you agree evolution should be taught?

yes	67.3%	[ 1018 ]
no	13.2%	[ 199 ]
I'm not sure.. but I want gold :3	19.5%	[ 295 ]
Total Votes:			[ 1512 ]

[Ihavenoarmz]

the shadow keeper

The world hasn't been around for billions of years!

Is that so?

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Scientists have proved that the world isn't over 15 thousand years old.

Really? Might we get to know those scientists?

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[And that's with general mistakes made by carbon dating.]

Who's the dumbass who used carbon dating to find the age of rocks billions of years old?
Oh, a creationist. Nevermind then.

[account banning service12]

whait are there two people talking on the shadow worrior

[Ihavenoarmz]

hopper_G

all minerals have different metlting points unless thats changed over a billion years lol

All radioactive decay rates are constant unless that has changed over a billion years, "lol".

[Talroo]

So where do you stand, really?
- Lor/Rissa

[account banning service12]

The Big Bang theory says the earth formed and cooled slowly and it took a long time for it to complete its shape today so there would be meteorites found in the earth’s strata. Unfortunately that is not true. The moon is receding from the earth very slowly. If one rewinds time enough the moon is scraping the earth’s surface. The Big Bang says that the moon was part of the earth and was put into orbit when the earth was still molten. However the angle of the moon’s orbit does not match the angle of the earth’s rotation. in addition the sun is shrinking by five feet per hour. If one goes back a billion years in time, the planets in our solar system would be rapidly sucked into the sun by its emense gravitational pull.

[Ihavenoarmz]

the shadow keeper

So where do you stand, really?
- Lor/Rissa

I stand firmly by a fairly common view:
"Give me proof or stop firing your bullshit cannon."

Aka: "sources or GTFO".

[VoijaRisa]

hopper_G

the radioactive decay rate hasen't changed for 37 year but that dosen't proof that it didn't change over billions of year

are you guys to stupid to figur out my math

Your math made no sense.

And decay rate is based on quantum physical constants which we can use cosmological observations to test for all of time. They don't change, and thus, neither have decay rates.

Furthermore, we can additionally test decay rates via the Oslo reactor and confirm them against other dating methods.

hopper_G

The Big Bang theory says the earth formed and cooled slowly and it took a long time for it to complete its shape today so there would be meteorites found in the earth’s strata.

The Big Bang Theory says nothing of the kind. Go here and educate yourself.

hopper_G

The moon is receding from the earth very slowly. If one rewinds time enough the moon is scraping the earth’s surface.

Incorrect. If you assume a linear regression, this would almost be true, but gravity isn't a linear force.

hopper_G

The Big Bang says that the moon was part of the earth and was put into orbit when the earth was still molten.

Again, strawman.

hopper_G

However the angle of the moon’s orbit does not match the angle of the earth’s rotation

The current theory of lunar formation accounts for this. Too bad your astronomy knowledge is more than 50 years out of date.

hopper_G

in addition the sun is shrinking by five feet per hour. If one goes back a billion years in time, the planets in our solar system would be rapidly sucked into the sun by its emense gravitational pull.

Radius =/= mass.

[Talroo]

Micah, you're beating around the bush, giving textbook answers.
Our question remains.
-Lor

Thank you, Damion.
Apart from the explicit expressive language, that's rather well said.
- Rissa

Agreed.
- Lor

EDIT:
Micah, why are in this forum anyways?
You obviously do not know how to debate.... properly.
Not to mention your info in quite out of date, and you're not using it properly anyways.
::Le Sigh::
Goodness, you disappoint. Harsh, but true-ish.
- Lor / Rissa

[Ihavenoarmz]

hopper_G

The Big Bang theory says the earth formed and cooled slowly

No, the Big Bang theory doesn't say that. Neither does Evolution.

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and it took a long time for it to complete its shape today so there would be meteorites found in the earth’s strata. Unfortunately that is not true.

There are no meteorite residues on Earth?

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The moon is receding from the earth very slowly. If one rewinds time enough the moon is scraping the earth’s surface. The Big Bang says that the moon was part of the earth and was put into orbit when the earth was still molten. However the angle of the moon’s orbit does not match the angle of the earth’s rotation.

http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CE/CE110.html

I don't even KNOW why you expect the angle of the moon's orbit to match the angle of Earth's rotation.

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in addition the sun is shrinking by five feet per hour. If one goes back a billion years in time, the planets in our solar system would be rapidly sucked into the sun by its emense gravitational pull.

http://talkorigins.org/indexcc/CE/CE310.html
Emphasis on the second counter-argument.

I want proof of the bolded sentence. Mathematical proof.

[account banning service12]

anyone can write anything online go get me a book that says that

[VoijaRisa]

MyxineDamion

I want proof of the bolded sentence. Mathematical proof.

You know he can't do real math. He had enough trouble with subtraction. Differential equations is way past anything he could ever learn. Troll's brains aren't capable of it.

[linaloki]

hopper_G

The Big Bang theory says the earth formed and cooled slowly and it took a long time for it to complete its shape today so there would be meteorites found in the earth’s strata. Unfortunately that is not true. The moon is receding from the earth very slowly. If one rewinds time enough the moon is scraping the earth’s surface. The Big Bang says that the moon was part of the earth and was put into orbit when the earth was still molten. However the angle of the moon’s orbit does not match the angle of the earth’s rotation. in addition the sun is shrinking by five feet per hour. If one goes back a billion years in time, the planets in our solar system would be rapidly sucked into the sun by its emense gravitational pull.

So, you can rewind time?

You must be a really cool superhero! Or maybe the USS Enterprise!

Wait, the last can't be true... you know nothing of science.

[VoijaRisa]

hopper_G

anyone can write anything online go get me a book that says that

Books are not good souces. Any idiot can publish a book.

Talkorigins is a peer reviewed website on par with peer reviewed journals.

[linaloki]

hopper_G

2+2 always = 4
the RD rate is not the idea of puting 2 and 2 together

False. 2+2=10, 2+2=11, 2+2=4. All are true.

[linaloki]

VoijaRisa

MyxineDamion

I want proof of the bolded sentence. Mathematical proof.

You know he can't do real math. He had enough trouble with subtraction. Differential equations is way past anything he could ever learn. Troll's brains aren't capable of it.

Shoot, I'm minoring in math and I have trouble with DiffEQs...

Might be because I missed 2 out of 3 days the teach taught it, but that isn't my fault. crying