I used to be athiest untill...

[Crimson Ice Princess]

Phenomi

Crimson Ice Princess

Phenomi

Crimson Ice Princess

The only story I've got that helps me prove that there is, at least, life after death (I believe in God but not Christ as God; I find that view a little blasphemous since God himself said "Do not worship false idols," and "There is only one God," and dammit, God is one entity, not three. Sorry, I don't want to push this on anyone, I'm just trying to explain my reasoning.)
Anyways... my great-grandma died in a nursing home two Augusts ago, and it was the first time anyone had died that I knew. That day, I had wanted to hear a song by Our Lady Peace really badly, but my internet wasn't working. (The song was called Clumsy.) Anyways... my mom tells me that my great-grandma had died, and I knew it was coming, but it still hit me like a ton of bricks. I went into my room, turned the radio on for comfort, and sobbed... and wouldn't you know it, the song came on! I actually started sobbing harder because it felt like it was my great-grandma trying to comfort me.
As for the cripple... did he STAY standing? What happened later? Just wondering.

The song thing may have been a coincidence, you realize.

Of course I do. But it's more comforting to me to think about it as a visitation from my great-grandma. I think really that all religion is based on comfort so that the weaker of us don't go nuts from realizing that time is short and time is finite for us.

Alright, you can believe what you like. Though for me, believing in an afterlife only makes this one... paler, less meaningful. The fact that life ends is what makes it so special.

I see what you mean, however... the idea of there being absolutely nothing, just total blackness after death scares me. I tend to lean more towards atheism though. I guess you could call me a pessimistic agnostic. xD

[Asterisk07]

If an Atheist like you would convert that easily to any religion for minor reasons like that, then you were either never a strong atheist if anything a weak atheist, or you just make yourself believe in whatever you THINK will make life easier, which means you truly deep down do not believe in the things you say you do.

[The Tiger of the Flames]

Vertigo_Kiwi

So, what if they would have said something like "In the power of Isis..." instead of Jesus. Would you have become a follower of the Ancient Egyptian gods?

good point but how dum are you if you believe in the egyptian relgion

[Candypainted Low]

Phyzzie

Candypainted Low

Phenomi

Candypainted Low

Seriously, there are ******** millions of children starving all over the world, why would Jesus take the time to shut up a snake for an obnoxious, impatient old lady and not feed the bellies of starving children who pray every single day?

Exactly.

I can't comprehend it, I absolutely cannot. So many people of today just bastardize Christianity I can't help but disrespect the way it's portrayed as a religion.

I've come to percieve a bad impression about Christianity, too, theyre much too narrow minded to be REAL people, like come on. I mean, theres a whole world out there in ******** chaos because of our self-centered species, and Christians still only care about their safe little societies and trying to get everyone to marry before they populate even though humans dont need to overpopulate the world anymore.

You have made some really strong points. Alas, I must say, I do not hate Christians, absolutely not, I hate the way the religion is portrayed. I hate things that people do, but I don't hate people

The main thing that really bothers me is when hate, and bluntly uncivil acts are backed up by Christianity. Homophobia anyone? Then of course there are famous people who drag the religion through the mud with everything they do, i.e. Catholic priests who abuse children.(I'm sorry there are ******** endless cases with Priests molesting children who attend their church. Revolting. So much for the church being a sanctuary.)

[Phenomi]

The Tiger of the Flames

Vertigo_Kiwi

So, what if they would have said something like "In the power of Isis..." instead of Jesus. Would you have become a follower of the Ancient Egyptian gods?

good point but how dum are you if you believe in the egyptian relgion

No less dumb than believing in the Christian god or Thor or the Tooth fairy. In fact, the ancient Egyptians were pretty damn smart.

[Candypainted Low]

http://video.yahoo.com/watch/2392952/7452682
“What does it mean to speak of child protection when pornography and violence can be viewed in so many homes through media widely available today?”
- The pope, himself



Clever, blame it on the media.

[moonalink]

Your not converting me sister!

[DainTrinity]

Sounds like you made up the entire story. I don't mind religion but don't bullshit us.

[TalineTerror xX]

Well, you never know what god they were talking about or there beliefs in god in general
just because someone says the word god doesnt mean they portray that god the way the bible says.
Just saying (:

[Megumi Selwyn]

Phenomi

For the fist example, did you follow up on the guy afterward? Did you make sure his improvement was permanent and not psychological? Even if his legs didn't work well, that doesn't mean that he couldn't stand for a short while. I knew a few people who needed wheelchairs most of the time, but could stand or walk for a short while, just not for long. And how do you know for sure that this guy was really using the money for his legs? Maybe he stood up because the guy was invading his personal space and creeping him out. Or because he was religious and was compelled to by peer pressure, even if it was hard.

For the snake part, that snake must have been at least partially domesticated or trained to be in a display. Even though it got down, it may have felt insecure and wanted back to it's familiar trainer, or it was even part of the demonstration. If it was around a trainers hand, it couldn't have been that big or venomous. Nobody was in any danger, most snakes are very benign. You even said you couldn't see much, perhaps somebody else waved it back, just a simple hand wave was probably enough to get the snake to retreat to it's trainer.

In any case, if this were real, these people are evil because they are not in hospitals helping sick people or in places where venomous snakes are a problem. Seriously, if this were real how selfish is that?

Neither of those stories were very convincing, I'm sorry.

Agreed. Especially about the snake...snakes aren't really all that dangerous, it wouldn't have hurt anyone anyway. >.>

[Kaitos Wolfhaart]

Xx Lil-Holly xX

I wait at a busy bus stop to go to school every day.
Everyday, this cripple guy would sit there and beg for money.
Every. Day. For the six years I would go to the bus stop to go to school.
There's not a single day I didn't see that man asking for food and money. He had a sign that said, "Help me pay for better legs"

So, last year, I was at the bus stop. Everyone was walking around and being busy and stuff, I wasn't paying so much attention to the cripple.
This guy and his friend walked up to the cripple, and asked, "What's wrong with your legs?"
"I don't know, they've never worked good." The cripple responded.
One of the guys grabbed the cripple's arms.
"What are you doing?!"
"In the name of the Lord Jesus, STAND UP!"
The cripple just stood up. Just as the guy stood up, my bus came.

And the guy could stand. I myself didn't believe it. It took a few weeks for it to register in my head, it was just so incredible. That's not the only thing.

A few months after that, my family took me to the zoo. (Which was disgusting) A guy had a snake on display, it was wrapped around his hand. As the man was talking about the snake, it just suddenly slipped down and started to slither everywhere, hissing.
This lady scolded the snake in the name of God. (I don't remember what she said, but It was still awesome. I was in the back, so I couldn't see a lot) The snake, amazingly, went back it its owner, and stopped hissing. It wasn't staged, why would they put zoo visitor's lives in risk if it was staged?

So ya, I finally decided there had to be God if things like that happened so much. After I started believing, my life got so much better.(1) I could overcome the bad times more, and since my parents are atheists, they didn't drive me to church, so I started walking. God was my answer. smile

I'm not trying to shove this down anyone's throat, I'm just sharing my story on how I went from a committed Atheist to a devoted and faithful Christian. Feel free to choose smile

Cute stories. Got any evidence backing them up? Anyone else who can come here and tell us it really happened? Maybe something in a newspaper?

You'd think that if a crippled man could suddenly walk again after having something said to him it would be written about somewhere? I've heard tons of these stories but I have never actually seen anything indicating any of them actually happened.

(1) Life becomes much better once you start seeing everything from a positive angle. You didn't find anything other than a positive view on life. People VERY OFTEN mistake that for a divine thing. It's not, it's just regular people realise how simple life is if you don't let the little stuff bother you. So stop crediting some imaginary god for something you achieved on your own, something you should be very proud of.

[Axis of Fabulousness]

I'm glad that you've embraced faith, no matter for what reason. I don't go to church, and I'm definitely no hardcore Christian, but it makes me feel better knowing that there's someone watching me that loves me unconditionally.

EDIT:

@ all the negative people: You guys need to back off, seriously. Even if her stories involved no intervention from a divine power, she says she's happier now as a Christian. She's not hurting anyone else through her faith, so why should you attack it?

I mean, you get mad when Christians attack your Atheist beliefs and reasons for believing that way. What makes you think it's okay to do it to us?

[Hana Maehata]

Vertigo_Kiwi

Xx Lil-Holly xX

Vertigo_Kiwi

So, what if they would have said something like "In the power of Isis..." instead of Jesus. Would you have become a follower of the Ancient Egyptian gods?

To be honest, I don't know. I was still unsure until I saw the lady tame the snake.

Well, what if just simple loud voices scared the snake into being "obedient" or whatever. I mean, it probably didn't matter what anyone said. They probably could have shouted a grocery list in a mean tone and that would make an animal go back to its comfort zone. I don't know, I'm a skeptic so I always have to think of all possibilities before coming to a conclusion about something.

Uh, snakes can't hear. They sense the world around them by "tasting" the air.

That's all I'm going to say, and staying out of the actual discussion, since I don't have much to say on the topic. Sorry! sweatdrop

[DarkChao1663]

Chao- Wow. eek

[Turquoise Cat]

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