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Atheist 0.39387684898521 39.4% [ 1145 ]
Protestant 0.16890264877881 16.9% [ 491 ]
Catholic 0.14035087719298 14.0% [ 408 ]
Hindu 0.013071895424837 1.3% [ 38 ]
Muslim 0.018231854145167 1.8% [ 53 ]
Jew 0.023047815617475 2.3% [ 67 ]
Buddhist 0.05125558995528 5.1% [ 149 ]
Greek Orthodox 0.0072239422084623 0.7% [ 21 ]
Pagan 0.14207086343309 14.2% [ 413 ]
Egyptian 0.041967664258686 4.2% [ 122 ]
Total Votes:[ 2907 ]

Fluffz0rs the Wise
Why is atheism listed in the poll as a religion? Honestly, what the hell? That's retarded. =/


glad i'm not the only one who noticed that, and other than that i'm happy scientology was not included since I dont want that to be recognized as a religion.
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dragonmatt5
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Bibbly
Mutations are Real=Evolution is Real

I hope you know what mutations are.

Mutations are changes in coding within the DNA. Every mutation ever recorded has not helped the subject. Yes, there were some mutations that, say, gave the subject amazing strength, but it also either shortened the lifespan or caused a severe sickness or some other thing that counteracted and/or overpowered the benificial mutation.

Mutations do occur, yes... but they are not good. So if "Mutations are Real=Evolution is Real" then if "Evolution is Real=Evolution is Bad".
evolution isn't always bad. do you think blue eyes are bad???? thats a mutation in human DNA. evolutions are not always bad they are often what helps animals survive especially when it comes to natural selection. i understand how you get that mutations are bad since a common example most hear is a mutation in a virus like lets say the flu. but if you think about it in the virus' point of view then its actually a good thing. the virus finds hosts easier and can reproduce better unfortunatly for humans we happen to be the hosts and we die. a difference in perspective.


Well what behold doesn't know or doesn't care about is his being utterly wrong in every conceivable way. Mutations are mostly neutral, not harmless nor beneficial. His idea that mutations have a negative aspect for any positive is also so full of holes and so disproven by scientific study, it literally insults the intelligence of everyone who reads it.

As for evolution, there is a little more to it then just mutation. It is mutations affect on survivability that induces evolution. Otherwise you just have increasingly mutated animals.
There has to be a relation on the mutation either helping the creature adapt to a changing environment or allowing it to breed more effectively or something.


Name 3 mutations that are beneficial to the animal kingdom...
if you are thinking of Adaptation then you are correct where it has positive effects... but virtually all observed Mutations have been with a Loss of information. There have been rare occurrences where an animal has lost information to create - say a wing on a beetle who lives on a windy island - and therefore was not blown out to sea. This was beneficial but it was still a loss of information in the genetic code.


Hmm...well, lets go back and look at a few things...Because if I really want to address this right, it seems I will have to somehow uproot untold years worth of not only incorrect but outright bullshit information from your mind before even addressing your complaints about evolution.

First off though, an explanation of your definition of 'adaption' and 'mutation' would be required, as adaption in evolution can only come FROM mutation (some change in the animal that helps it better ADAPT to it's environment.) Mutation is the force that drive adaption, as creatures have a limited ability to adapt on their own, and changes the like of growing or changing function of a limb or developing a change in fur color are not conscious decisions.
Now to address the mass of bullshit that seemed to be the whole of your arguement. All observed mutations have NOT been only lose of information. Any scientist studying fruit fly, bacteria or viruses would b***h slap you for daring to say such a thing, and rightfully so. Hell the amount of study alone on the genetic changes of the microscopic world easily disproves that garbage you're simply stating as fact.

DNA replication that occurs when genetic traits are passed on from one generation to the next (
this would be, when an animal has offspring) is never perfect and it is there that the mutations occur. These mutations can be anything from.
1. The loss of a gene. Yes it is a possibility to lose genes, I don't dispute that aspect. Though this doesn't have to be bad for the organism, it may be depending on the gene that is lost in the transition. If it is bad for the organism, well, natural selection kicks in and the thing is more likely to die and be unable to pass it's genetic code on to the next generation.

2. The variation of a gene. This is when the gene changes in purpose or effect from the parent to the offspring. Again, this can be good, bad or indifferent.

3. The addition of new genes. Yes, this is the one you seem to dislike, despite it's proven existence for the last several decades and more. It can happened when the organism duplicates (reproduces) and a gene is simply copied in the process. Since there are two of the same genes, if one of them is bad, it doesn't harm the organism (they have the backup). Now on occasion, the second gene is changed to be beneficial. The ability of certain bacteria to now digest synthetics is an example of the top of my head.
here, this vid will probably explain things more clearly then I.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLnr_3J1IT8

course, while you are at it, please give the lot of them a look. Good information and it addresses a lot of bullshit arguements.
Ayame-Sohhma
Fluffz0rs the Wise
Why is atheism listed in the poll as a religion? Honestly, what the hell? That's retarded. =/


glad i'm not the only one who noticed that, and other than that i'm happy scientology was not included since I dont want that to be recognized as a religion.


To quote Stephen Kent, "Rather than struggling over whether or not to label Scientology as a religion, I find it far more helpful to view it as a multifaceted transnational corporation, only one element of which is religious."
Queen of the tigers
ive seen alot of monkeys. ive never seen any of them turn in to men.
You don't seem to know what evolution is. Learn this before you renounce it. The survival of the fittest implies that an animal will die or lose its ability to mate if it does not have the required attributes to survive in its environment. So, over time, the species becomes more and more refined to suit its surroundings. Of course, it's a lot more complicated than that, I'm just dumbing it down for the kind of people who believe the Bible.
Which brings me on to a second point. The book of Genesis is a METAPHOR FOR EVOLUTION, people. Not even the original Christian or Jews believed that God made the earth in seven days; it took a lot longer. And as for the New Testament Gospels; to say events clash is a gross understatement. Most historians accept that the majority of information in the NT is false, and a lot of it (such as the virgin birth, amongst others) were borrowed from other Hellenistic religions and legends.

The Bible is a book.

People and chimpanzees and monkeys and pigs and cows and inchworms all evolved from a common ancestor. - There's just too much scientific proof to back this up for anyone to believe that it's all untrue, and that "God said there were people and then there were people."

You should all know that rain was "God's tears" before they figured out condensation.

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Still not sure why Atheist is listed as a religion. Though i'm glad to know its the biggest number in the pool 10 to 4.
Queen of the tigers
ive seen alot of monkeys. ive never seen any of them turn in to men.


It took a million years for us to evolve from a relative of the ape family.
Undyr Wurld
Queen of the tigers
ive seen alot of monkeys. ive never seen any of them turn in to men.


It took a million years for us to evolve from a relative of the ape family.
While your answer is close, I feel I must point out that you brought this thread back from the dead.

Like the last time people were posting here, Homo Erectus was literally roaming Asia.
MisatoMisura
Undyr Wurld
Queen of the tigers
ive seen alot of monkeys. ive never seen any of them turn in to men.


It took a million years for us to evolve from a relative of the ape family.
While your answer is close, I feel I must point out that you brought this thread back from the dead.

Like the last time people were posting here, Homo Erectus was literally roaming Asia.


I needed to resurrect it out of boredom.

My answer is not close. It is vague, but true.
Undyr Wurld
MisatoMisura
Undyr Wurld
Queen of the tigers
ive seen alot of monkeys. ive never seen any of them turn in to men.


It took a million years for us to evolve from a relative of the ape family.
While your answer is close, I feel I must point out that you brought this thread back from the dead.

Like the last time people were posting here, Homo Erectus was literally roaming Asia.


I needed to resurrect it out of boredom.

My answer is not close. It is vague, but true.
Yep, more or less. It's seems that you're using "a million years" to refer to a long time rather than literally 1000000 years. I'm with you.
FromFirstToLast_Rock
Hey heart
I used to believe that Humans evolved from Apes. That all life came from single celled Organisms called Amoebas.
Now I believe that god created us all, and the bible is fact.
I just wanted to know your opinions out there. Try to back up your idea... mrgreen


Well, I believe that both human and apes evolved from a common ancestor. There is much proof of this including fossils, the process of micro/macroevolution, and real life examples of speciation (including human beings). I find the theory of human evolution a much more plausable explaination and I consider it the correct explaination of how we got here (but if you disagree that is ok too). Evolution (as the difinition of evolution) is absolutely undenyable.

Personally I do not believe in God, or in a creator of any sort. I do not believe the cause of our creation comes from any sentiant being. There is much proof for my reasoning for this as well, but it would take me much to long to write it all wink
Undyr Wurld
Queen of the tigers
ive seen alot of monkeys. ive never seen any of them turn in to men.


It took a million years for us to evolve from a relative of the ape family.


It didn't take us a million years to evolve from a relitive of the ape family because we still are in the ape family. It might have been a million years since we splitted from our nearest common ansester though.
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