The Chronology of Ivalice

[Aria_Knight_Lyrac]

Well you have a long ways to save up for Tales of Vesperia, since the fact that it's gonna be awhile.. and the future holds... ok, Bamco holds the answer of when it will ever come out here.

And... back to the topic at hand, yeah, if they consider making a remake of Vagrant Stories, then I'll get it as soon as it comes out.  

[Vagabond Setzer]

GAH! if they do that i'd buy it for sure! they should make it like...modern....yeah that's it! modern graphics!  

[Aven XVI]

Tales of Vesperia comes out in 2008. So it is sometime this year.

Is Advance 2 at all confirmed for a U.S. release?  

[Vagabond Setzer]

dunno...i should go look that up!  

[DeathsMercy]

Sounds interesting, I've just recently gotten into the "Tales" series, Symphonia and Legendia being my first games. They aren't at the same level as Final Fantasy but they are good nonetheless.  

[Nadir Teniz]

Such a great game.  

[Redd Phoenix]

I have a question/synical/obvious thought...
I know we are trying to figure out, chronologically, where everything fits it, but don't you think that there are just some..."mistakes"
Cloud is clearly fan-service from the PSX Tatics, and luso is here only to promote his new game A2 (fan service: whats luso writing in? FIND OUT IN FINAL FANTASY TACTICS AVANCED 2 GRIM. OF THE RIFT! BUY IT TODAY! What did luso say about having friends? Looking for them? What friends? FIND OUT IN FINAL FANTASY TACTICS AVANCED 2 GRIM. OF THE RIFT! BUY IT TODAY).
Balthier plays a role as to lure people into buying his game (whats the cache of glabados? FIND OUT IN FXII, BUY IT NOW BEFORE IT BECOMES A CLASSIC AND WORTH MILLIONS!!)
Therefore, aren't they just "misplaced" and actually do not fit in chronologically?
And if Final Fantasy Tactics is modern now, then thats the modern Ivalice (saint Ivalice, the town) that the game starts in the with snowball fight? The dream world is clearly a dream/ fantasy.
The one unanswered question here is, how did the HUGE continent of Ivalice dwindle down to a small, quant, city/village/thing?

Anyway, thats just my sense of this. I'm just as confused as everyone else. Oh, and if the whole "misplaced character" thing had come up on pages 3 or 4, then just tell me you covered it, i haven't gotten to those pages yet sweatdrop xd  

[Alec Randall]

I know this may sound somewhat off topic, but if you look at the top-right corner of the FFT map, and look at the most western part of the whole map on FFXII, don't the ends sort of match up?  

[Squall Blade Lionheart]

nobody cares about final fantasy 8 and squall do they -_-"  

[Scythemaster Deatharte]

Hey I liked 8, but this isn't about 8. This is about the Ivalice Alliance Final Fantasy games, which does no include 8. Comrende?  

[Squall Blade Lionheart]

well at least i gave it a try biggrin  

[Really Fat Dwarf]

This post is extremely helpful. But how did Dalmasca dissapear?  

[Seraphor]

Really Fat Dwarf

This post is extremely helpful. But how did Dalmasca dissapear?

How did Mesopotamia and Ancient Isreal disappear?

This answers Redd as well; countries and kingdoms change through time and political tides. The continents didn't necessarily move, but the borders of the countries did.
Modern Day Ivalice see only one small town still carrying the name, while the rest of the continent of Ivalice still exists, it's just not known by that name any more.
Tactics is not modern day Ivalice, it would be best to think of old Valendia(XII) as 'Ancient Ivalice', Tactics as 'Medieval Ivalice' and Tactics Advance as 'Modern Ivalice'.  

[ayden409]

That is intesne. It makes a lot of sense too now that I look back. If it is alright in asking, what was the story of Vagrant Story. I never had a chance to play it... *tear* (You don't need to post here but if you don't mind telling me you can just PM me. Thanks.)  

[FirstMarshall]

The timeline of Ivalice in Final Fantasy Tactics and Final Fantasy XII, provided by Square Enix's official guide book, Final Fantasy XII Ultimania Omega. Translation is as follows:

Final Fantasy XII History (brown)

* 1st Upper Box: Unknown Era - The Occuria reside in Giruvegan.
* 2nd Upper Box: Old Valendia 1 - Establishment of the Galtean Federation.
* 3rd Upper Box: Old Valendia 394 - The Galtean Federation breaks apart.
* 4th Upper Box: Old Valendia 706 - Final Fantasy XII takes place.
* 5th Upper Box: Several decades after Old Valendia 706 - Female St Ajora establishes a new religion.

Grey box: Are they the same person?

Final Fantasy Tactics History (blue)

* 1st Lower Box: Unknown Era - 12 Knights kills a demon, and rescues Ivalice.
* 2nd Lower Box: 1200 years before the Middle Ages - St Ajora establishes the Glabados religion.
* 3rd Lower Box: Unknown Era - A catastrophe befalls the civilization at this age.
* 4th Lower Box: Middle Ages - Final Fantasy Tactics takes place.

This is something I found on the FF Project. I didn't translate or do anything other than discover what someone else had done, but I thought it was interesting. I hope you all like it, and man I wish I could read Japanese I would so get that book. Oh the picture is from the Ultimania, and official Square-Enix book.