My story

[rmcdra]

joseph m 102

rmcdra

joseph m 102

fine then no, i wanted to be all deep but no gosh

If there is no honesty in your depth then it is nothing but a raging whirlpool that one drowns in.

you do know i was just kiding right

Oh sorry. Tone doesn't carry very well over text lol.  

[warhead1029]

ncsweet

joseph m 102

Violet Song jat Shariff

joseph m 102

rmcdra

joseph m 102

fine then no, i wanted to be all deep but no gosh

If there is no honesty in your depth then it is nothing but a raging whirlpool that one drowns in.

If you don't mind me asking, what do you mean by not believe in Yeshua's God? Do you mean that you deny that Yeshua's God exist or do you deny that he exists as most Churches teach?

his name is Yeshua's? and i deny that he himself exists to answer your second question

Yeshua = Jesus.
YHVH = God.

So, I have to ask. Why do you think YHVH doesn't exist, but somehow the gods you are worshiping/getting to know do?

i know nothing but whenever i started studing these gods/ godesses caught my attention and intreasted me.

It's fine that other Gods/Goddesses interest you, however why does the existence of those Gods/esses, preclude the existence of YHVH (or any other God/ess)? Just because you don't choose to follow/worship a particular God, does that mean that they automatically don't exist?

i've been told that my favorite phrase is i dont know and i choose to use that statement in this scenerio. but i can answer a part ive actualy never really beleived in YHVH because when i was little i tohught they were just stories they told us but when i got old enough yo think on my own i realized i didnt want to be catholic.  

[Brass Bell Doll]

If you do not believe in him, then moving on with your spiritual life shouldn't be a problem as long as you are willing to accept any consequences if it turns out you've misunderstood things and he is real.  

[warhead1029]

ok  

[dark_angel_32189]

After reading the posts on the first page...

I personally don't think an oath counts unless you've made it yourself by your own choice at an age where you're old enough to make it an educated decision.

Just wanted to share that.

Edit: I know you said you were baptized. Was it your choice? And how old were you?  

[warhead1029]

no it eas not my choice i hardly knew what it even meant my age is XIII or is it XIIV eithor way 13  

[Brass Bell Doll]

dark_angel_32189

I personally don't think an oath counts unless you've made it yourself by your own choice at an age where you're old enough to make it an educated decision.

Just wanted to share that.

How do you feel about religious texts that describe deities accepting and enforcing oaths with people who did not enter into them in the terms you described?  

[dark_angel_32189]

Brass Bell Doll

dark_angel_32189

I personally don't think an oath counts unless you've made it yourself by your own choice at an age where you're old enough to make it an educated decision.

Just wanted to share that.

How do you feel about religious texts that describe deities accepting and enforcing oaths with people who did not enter into them in the terms you described?

I don't believe someone can be bound by an oath that someone else made for them. An oath doesn't mean anything unless you knowingly and willingly make it yourself. Especially if it's an oath for a religion or to a god that you don't practice or believe in (or even if you acknowledge that the particular god might exist, but you don't choose to worship them).

I'm just going to leave it at that.  

[Brass Bell Doll]

dark_angel_32189

I don't believe someone can be bound by an oath that someone else made for them. An oath doesn't mean anything unless you knowingly and willingly make it yourself. Especially if it's an oath for a religion or to a god that you don't practice or believe in (or even if you acknowledge that the particular god might exist, but you don't choose to worship them).

I'm just going to leave it at that.

I feel I understood that from the earlier post you made. What I was trying to understand is your opinion of religious texts, including the lore of these religions that have examples of oaths being made on another's behalf. Are they false? Are they misrepresenting something?  

[dark_angel_32189]

I'm sorry, I said I was going to leave it at that because I'm not going to get into a deeper converstion about religious texts. Believe me, my opinions on religious texts are very strong and not something that most people like to hear. I answered your question in my last post, whether you're capable of seeing/understanding it or not.  

[Brass Bell Doll]

My understanding is this guild encourages us to support our positions, and I inquired further because I feel we can have a respectful discussion even if we disagree, all the while supporting the spirit of this guild and it's intentions.

If you would prefer, I could rephrase it to ask why you believe there can be no oath without the active participation of the individual when the texts show there can be.  

[warhead1029]

if she doesnt want to respond she doesnt have to (even though i would like you two to carry o )  

[Brass Bell Doll]

joseph m 102

if she doesnt want to respond she doesnt have to (even though i would like you two to carry o )

I'm not sure how that position fits in terms of what is expected within the guild, which was why I asked.  

[warhead1029]

Brass Bell Doll

I'm not sure how that position fits in terms of what is expected within the guild, which was why I asked.

Oh i see i think i misunderstood the post