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[Tarrou]

William C. Wonka

Thank you for clearing that up, Tangled...although, it woulda helped if you shared this with us earlier.

My job here isn't to elucidate points for you guys on demand: it's to maintain a modicum of civility on the forums. If the information I provided would have been more useful at some earlier point, any of you were more than capable of finding it for yourselves.  

[Sinner]

Oh, you didn't understand what an ad hominem argument was? I had presumed that if you didn't know its meaning, you would have brought that up after my initial use of it. If you had said something, I would have linked it for you.

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by constantly implying that all I wanted to do was indignify you, you have offended me, trying to make me seem like a monster.

If you were made to appear monstrous, you managed that by your own actions, not my words.  

[ferretfan1]

oh my lord, i didnt mean to cause this much trouble. this wasnt supposed to be a debate and im still sorry.

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What I don't understand is why you're defending this garbage. There is no positive side to what's being done here. The story is fairly interesting to some people (re: not me), but there is no conceiveable defense for using Einstein's name.

no positivity? the story suggests that einstein deffended himself very effectavly against his proffessor. proving that nobody is always right (i am refering to the professor) , that we are human and god still loves us.  

[Sinner]

ferretfan1

no positivity? the story suggests that einstein deffended himself very effectavly against his proffessor. proving that nobody is always right (i am refering to the professor) , that we are human and god still loves us.

Precisely the problem. The story suggests something which isn't true.  

[ferretfan1]

Sinner

ferretfan1

no positivity? the story suggests that einstein deffended himself very effectavly against his proffessor. proving that nobody is always right (i am refering to the professor) , that we are human and god still loves us.

Precisely the problem. The story suggests something which isn't true.

whether its true or not doesnt matter, whats matters is whats in the story. there are plenty of fictional stories everywhere, and some of them have moral, like this one.  

[Sinner]

ferretfan1

whether its true or not doesnt matter, whats matters is whats in the story. there are plenty of fictional stories everywhere, and some of them have moral, like this one.

I beg to differ. Truth does matter.

I'm not saying that all inspirational stories should have to be true, I'm saying that you shouldn't tell untrue stories about real people and/or events.  

[ferretfan1]

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I beg to differ. Truth does matter.

I'm not saying that all inspirational stories should have to be true, I'm saying that you shouldn't tell untrue stories about real people and/or events.

you dont give up, do you?  

[blackiza]

Amen.  

[Darem]

Grrr...The fact that Einstein's name was used here doesn't dispute the truth of the story. ((Not the truth that the events actually happened, but the truth that what was said by the fictional characters is true.)0 Sinner, you're arguing over technicalities! She says at the beginning of the post that she isn't sure if it's true! Personally, I have absolutely no respect for Einstein whatsoever, but that doesn't affect my opinion, that a tachnicality doesn't change the truth. Gosh, this is like arguing over what a fruit's name is! As long as it's healthy, or tastes good, who gives a care what it's called?  

[Darem]

Sinner

ferretfan1

no positivity? the story suggests that einstein deffended himself very effectavly against his proffessor. proving that nobody is always right (i am refering to the professor) , that we are human and god still loves us.

Precisely the problem. The story suggests something which isn't true.

The untrue part is that Einstein did this! The moral is completely true! One line doesn't make that much of a difference! Actually, it could convert non-Christians faster, if they have respect for Einstein!  

[ferretfan1]

thank you, luthos! finally, someone gets it.  

[ferretfan1]

blackiza

Amen.

i hear you  

[Sinner]

Luthos of the MoonClan

The untrue part is that Einstein did this! The moral is completely true! One line doesn't make that much of a difference! Actually, it could convert non-Christians faster, if they have respect for Einstein!

So we should deceive people to convert them? That sounds like an awfully Christian thing to do. I think I remember a parable about that, where Jesus threatened and bribed people into following him.

Oh, wait, he liked honesty. My bad.

Deceiving people to convert them is a terrible thing to do.  

[ferretfan1]

thats not what he meant! i bet he thought that if people saw the moral, instead of the deceit, then they would convert.  

[Sinner]

ferretfan1

thats not what he meant! i bet he thought that if people saw the moral, instead of the deceit, then they would convert.

That's great. But then you should just take out the deceitful part. Just don't perpetuate false ideas. Very, very simple.