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Bluuberry

PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 12:21 am
A sin? Really now? I'm going to burn forever in the depths of hell away from the loving compansionate light of God because I mastrubate and don't repent for it?

I first had sex when I was twelve, then I dumped her because I only wanted to do that to challenge myself and boast about it to my friends. I don't feel an ounce of guilt about it. In fact, I feel great about it.

Materializing my love for the opposite sex in a sweet symphony of motionful thighs and grunts the likes of which can rival the beauty of the greatests componists greatests works. Couldn't possibly be a sin.  
PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 3:34 pm
Bluuberry
A sin? Really now? I'm going to burn forever in the depths of hell away from the loving compansionate light of God because I mastrubate and don't repent for it?

I first had sex when I was twelve, then I dumped her because I only wanted to do that to challenge myself and boast about it to my friends. I don't feel an ounce of guilt about it. In fact, I feel great about it.

Materializing my love for the opposite sex in a sweet symphony of motionful thighs and grunts the likes of which can rival the beauty of the greatests componists greatests works. Couldn't possibly be a sin.


You don't understand how sin works. If you are saved, a sin will not make you fall from God's grace, but it WILL break your communion with Him through the interruption of the joy of your salvation (Psalm 51), unless you confess your sins (1 John 1:9), or unless your heart has turned insensitive to sin because of overdoing it without confessing it to God.

You do not go to hell because you DO sin. You go to hell because you ARE a sinner. Unless Christ's blood covers your sins, you are certainly going to hell, no matter how morally or immorally you live in this life. And remember, that the guide for every Christian is the Word of God, and not our subjective, immature reflections on any of these things... especially in times of great confusion and indecisiveness, such as the ones we're living in. Read Romans 6 to understand how we are called to live in holiness, despite that the grace of God already cleaned us from our sins when we went in repentance and faith accepting Christ.

It would be absurd for a Christian to continue living in sin because God no longer considers eternal punishment on those who have been saved. If they do continue in that sinful lifestyle, then it means that they were never Christians (1 John 2:19).
 

daviderentxun


aTerraxia

PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:51 pm
Bluuberry
A sin? Really now? I'm going to burn forever in the depths of hell away from the loving compansionate light of God because I mastrubate and don't repent for it?

I first had sex when I was twelve, then I dumped her because I only wanted to do that to challenge myself and boast about it to my friends. I don't feel an ounce of guilt about it. In fact, I feel great about it.

Materializing my love for the opposite sex in a sweet symphony of motionful thighs and grunts the likes of which can rival the beauty of the greatests componists greatests works. Couldn't possibly be a sin.
I really hope that's sarcasm.  
PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 11:35 am
Fattycakes
How precisely do you masturbate without lusting? Sounds like an impossible task.
It's really not. The sexual responses of our body are more linked to physical stimulation than they are to emotional state.  

SinfulGuillotine

Perfect Trash


lordstar

PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 11:11 am
Sieg Reyu.2
Bluuberry
A sin? Really now? I'm going to burn forever in the depths of hell away from the loving compansionate light of God because I mastrubate and don't repent for it?

I first had sex when I was twelve, then I dumped her because I only wanted to do that to challenge myself and boast about it to my friends. I don't feel an ounce of guilt about it. In fact, I feel great about it.

Materializing my love for the opposite sex in a sweet symphony of motionful thighs and grunts the likes of which can rival the beauty of the greatests componists greatests works. Couldn't possibly be a sin.
I really hope that's sarcasm.


never would have guessed to think it was sarcasm
nope not I  
PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 3:01 pm
SinfulGuillotine
Fattycakes
How precisely do you masturbate without lusting? Sounds like an impossible task.
It's really not. The sexual responses of our body are more linked to physical stimulation than they are to emotional state.

But what happens to your emotions or mind when you're physically stimulated? Do they just hide in a corner? Can you really just turn your mind off?
=/
I'd like to think that masturbating is okay, but its never sat well with me no matter how I look at it. But thats just me
 

Fattycakes


SinfulGuillotine

Perfect Trash

PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:48 pm
Fattycakes
SinfulGuillotine
Fattycakes
How precisely do you masturbate without lusting? Sounds like an impossible task.
It's really not. The sexual responses of our body are more linked to physical stimulation than they are to emotional state.

But what happens to your emotions or mind when you're physically stimulated? Do they just hide in a corner? Can you really just turn your mind off?
=/
I'd like to think that masturbating is okay, but its never sat well with me no matter how I look at it. But thats just me
Well, there's been instances where women will orgasm during rape, or a man will get an erection from physical stimulation alone, even if he doesn't want sex. Their minds don't want sex at all, but their bodies still react to the physical stimulation. It's something that can't be helped.

As for masturbation, some people just have a lot of control over their minds, and they're able to get a physical release while thinking about something as dull as the weather.  
PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 10:46 am
This happened to me once. The guilt almost crushed me.

It's really important just to pray, and pray hard, whenever you face temptation to look at porn, ect.

Now that I'm in a relationship, I look at sex completely differently. Sex in itself is not a sin, it is a gift from God to be shared between husbands and wives.

If the Holy Spirit is convicting you that what you are doing is wrong, pray for the strength to fight the temptation.  

Grayfriend


iremembertherain

PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 7:05 pm
I understand what you mean. Sex, porn, and all that stuff is addictive. If I were you (and I guess I have been in similar situations) I would fight it with everything I had. Sex is made for married couples because if you're not married there's so much that could go wrong. God knows about abortion, STDs, and teenage pregnancy; he knows the trouble that kids can get into. I think porn and masturbating lead to sex, so those aren't good either, are they? The thing is that all of that is addictive. Masturbation in itself may not be bad, but lust is addicting. It's better to stay away; otherwise, you will crave sex.  
PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:14 am
iremembertherain
I understand what you mean. Sex, porn, and all that stuff is addictive. If I were you (and I guess I have been in similar situations) I would fight it with everything I had. Sex is made for married couples because if you're not married there's so much that could go wrong. God knows about abortion, STDs, and teenage pregnancy; he knows the trouble that kids can get into. I think porn and masturbating lead to sex, so those aren't good either, are they? The thing is that all of that is addictive. Masturbation in itself may not be bad, but lust is addicting. It's better to stay away; otherwise, you will crave sex.


well on top of those things sex is also for marriage b/c God created to be a symbol of our relationship with him...he created it in a way that causes husband and wife to become one in flesh and spirit...and emotionally. so it's far more important then just b/c of STDs and teen pregnancy b/c back in the old times (during bible times) and even about 250 yrs ago it was normal to get married as early as 13 or 14 for girls and 15 or 16 for guys so teen pregnancy wasn't a problem. and STDs didn't really exist back then, those have really just come into the picture in the last 200 yrs.

but yeah sex is for marriage (although in that respect i need to also get that though my own heart and actions) it's addictive and can reap dangerous consequences. same thing with porn and masturbation and all that goes along with sexual immorality. i've been there....and am still there . it's a hard struggle, one i hope and fight to overcome one day....soon!

here are some verses i hope will be of encouragement:

Romans 7:14-25
14We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. 15I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. 16And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. 17As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. 18I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature.[c] For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. 19For what I do is not the good I want to do; no, the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. 20Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.

21So I find this law at work: When I want to do good, evil is right there with me. 22For in my inner being I delight in God's law; 23but I see another law at work in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within my members. 24What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death? 25Thanks be to God—through Jesus Christ our Lord!
So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God's law, but in the sinful nature a slave to the law of sin.
 

trinity343


Dcaff

PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:01 am
lordstar
razorbladeXlove
I'm a virgin, but I can't stop masturbating and wanting to look at porn sites. What should I do?! I'm so ashamed. crying


Q: Is what you are doing constructive or destructive?
Its all in the way you think about it

As for anyone who may have suggested that what you are doing is shameful
I confer upon them a –2 intelligence modifier


Masturbation is so tempting, so easy, so seemingly harmless and yet, yes, it is destructive. It is again a form of sexual immorality. None of the people in here have any problem agreeing that it is a problem.

Sex is a gift God gives you to share with one another person and is only really able to survive in the strength of a permanent married relationship. When you masturbate in private you're basically taking the sexual experience and removing it from where it belongs: in marriage. If I masturbate and my wife isn't involved then I am taking that sexual experience away from her and sex isn't about my own personal pleasure, its about her. That's why marriage and sex go hand in hand. She in turn does the same for me. The more you "take matters into your own hands" the less attatchment you have to your wife/husband in the act itself and it becomes increasingly difficult not to be a selfish lover and consequently, find the full pleasure of sex.

What I'm saying is the more you masturbate, the more you're training yourself that the sexual experience is about you and then you end up missing out on how good it can be. Also, once you enter into that married relationship, then all the sudden you have to learn sexually with her what you unlearned sexually on your own and it can create a lot of friction and heart ache.

As with anything God asks us not to mess with, it is never for any other reason than it isn't the best thing for us...he wants the best for us cuz he's good like that! More good and loving than any of us really understand!

And sorry, I don't understand what you mean by "a- 2 Intelligence Modifier". What is that?  
PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 12:30 pm
I have the same problem. I struggle with this every day, but I do it more because I'm bored than anything else. If you need some help please feel free to PM me and I'll be around.  

Killroy Two Point Oh


Etherealemblem

PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 5:16 pm
SinfulGuillotine
Fattycakes
SinfulGuillotine
Fattycakes
How precisely do you masturbate without lusting? Sounds like an impossible task.
It's really not. The sexual responses of our body are more linked to physical stimulation than they are to emotional state.

But what happens to your emotions or mind when you're physically stimulated? Do they just hide in a corner? Can you really just turn your mind off?
=/
I'd like to think that masturbating is okay, but its never sat well with me no matter how I look at it. But thats just me
Well, there's been instances where women will orgasm during rape, or a man will get an erection from physical stimulation alone, even if he doesn't want sex. Their minds don't want sex at all, but their bodies still react to the physical stimulation. It's something that can't be helped.

As for masturbation, some people just have a lot of control over their minds, and they're able to get a physical release while thinking about something as dull as the weather.

exactly..........why think.......I just review stuff and then.....wow that was fast....  
PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:44 pm
Dcaff
lordstar
razorbladeXlove
I'm a virgin, but I can't stop masturbating and wanting to look at porn sites. What should I do?! I'm so ashamed. crying


Q: Is what you are doing constructive or destructive?
Its all in the way you think about it

As for anyone who may have suggested that what you are doing is shameful
I confer upon them a –2 intelligence modifier


Masturbation is so tempting, so easy, so seemingly harmless and yet, yes, it is destructive. It is again a form of sexual immorality. None of the people in here have any problem agreeing that it is a problem.

Sex is a gift God gives you to share with one another person and is only really able to survive in the strength of a permanent married relationship. When you masturbate in private you're basically taking the sexual experience and removing it from where it belongs: in marriage. If I masturbate and my wife isn't involved then I am taking that sexual experience away from her and sex isn't about my own personal pleasure, its about her. That's why marriage and sex go hand in hand. She in turn does the same for me. The more you "take matters into your own hands" the less attatchment you have to your wife/husband in the act itself and it becomes increasingly difficult not to be a selfish lover and consequently, find the full pleasure of sex.

What I'm saying is the more you masturbate, the more you're training yourself that the sexual experience is about you and then you end up missing out on how good it can be. Also, once you enter into that married relationship, then all the sudden you have to learn sexually with her what you unlearned sexually on your own and it can create a lot of friction and heart ache.

As with anything God asks us not to mess with, it is never for any other reason than it isn't the best thing for us...he wants the best for us cuz he's good like that! More good and loving than any of us really understand!

And sorry, I don't understand what you mean by "a- 2 Intelligence Modifier". What is that?


sexual immorality is the best you could come up with?
your going to have to do better than a "because I said so answer"

now whats this about sexual experience training?
I have never had this problem
you really want to know how to help avoid friction and heart ache
its really simple
talk about it
may be hard for some people (I blame ___take a wild guess___)
but remember that not talking is just as unhelpful as not listening

btw if you are a G2/G3 you should know what an Intel Modifier is

wait
my bad
i forgot that games like that are evil witchcraft...now where is my mace?  

lordstar


Captain MaLita

PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:37 pm
In my opinion it's only a problem if you make it one.

I agree that you don't have to lust if you masturbate,
and that porn problem i dunno i guess it's all in self control..


and i'm not going to say that "all you need is self control to stop masturbating. It's a terrible sin and many struggle to pass this block..blah blah" because there is a physical need for things like that and some people who are possibly in a long standing habit of this, or something of the like, would need a lot of self control.
but yes, you could certainly masterbate without lust..i think that was what i was meaning to get to...dang. wish i could remember these sorta things..

haha mrgreen
 
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