Everyday I hate this country more and more...

[Denkou Soshiatae]

So many things about America and the way it is run make me sick, physicially sick, to think about.

This country is overrun with religious fanatics who are destroying every person's rights.

Don't get me wronge, I am not against religion. Religion can be a beautiful thing, and everybody is free to believe what they believe. I am talking about the fanatics, the fundimentalists who's soul goal in life is to force their beliefs on others, no matter the cost.

Fanatics are hurting this country more and more every day. It seems that the rights and standards which this nation were based on are being twisted into what the majority of the people want:

A man has the right to post his anit-abortion based hate onto his ex girlfriend in public , yet a teacher in Tennassee cannot even say the word gay in front of his/her students . The men who willingly go out to fight and die by the fanatics of OTHER religions to protect our country have people screaming at their heart broken families every day. Two HUMAN BEINGS who love each other cannot be joined as one because some people in the country don't agree with it. Woman who are given a terrible choise to make with their bodies are legally harrassed by anti-choice members and could possibly be forced to see a counselor and wait out the pressedure until it is too late.

I don't know about you, but I think that this whole "Separation of Chruch and State" thing has gone straight down the shitter. I don't like how this country is allowing so many people to be so nosey when it comes to other people's business, and how what one person feels can affect the rights of another, even when it really shouldn't matter.

So what are your thoughts and feelings about what this?

PLEASE NOTE: I did not mean to offend anyone and hurt any one's feelings. I tried very hard to respectfuly say how I feel.

Please no spamming or random hate comments, I am in the mood for a serious discussion here.  

[Dusty-Boy]

When looking at this issue we must look at both sides, and we must understand that these issues work on a region by region basis, which are further divided into state by state basis-es(word?)

it's not religious fanaticism that is the enemy, it's all these retards that don't understand that in this nation we are promised freedoms, and those should be fought for first with signs and megaphones and soapboxes, and finally with guns, that's right, GUNS.the second amendment was put into place with the idea that we may have to fight either a foreign occupier or defend our freedoms against a fully federalist government (Ohh look what we've had for about 150 years now >.>)

the confederacy was not succeeding solely based on slavery... that war was about something much larger, and unfortunately it was the slave states that rebelled, if say... new england had been been the area rebelling we would have seen a much different reason for the war to have been fought.

The greatest tragedy about the Civil war was that the good guys were so protective of such a horrible thing as slavery... so they lost and their main reason for going to war was overridden by that same issue.  

[Esiris]

The first case you mentioned shows someone apparently doesn't understand the privacy rights of people- and is clearly disturbed. The so called "Don't Say Gay" bill only says that human reproductive science will be age appropriate, Human Reproductive Science is still part of the lives of people who are LGBT.

Gay Marriage is worth fighting for- and all the bigoted rhetoric in the world may be dressed up in Sunday Bests- but it isn't the fault of the religions but the fault of people who are homophobic.  

[Shilberu Erikku]

Here are the main reasons for this chaos in America:
1.Some people just can't accept that others aren't clones of them.
2. The homophobes are closet gays/bis that are so autrophilosophobic (afraid of the thoughts/ opinions of others), that they pass all these hateful bills to reassure themselves.

3. The human obsession with being right.

It seems as America is the most affected by these. Why?  

[Dusty-Boy]

Esiris

The first case you mentioned shows someone apparently doesn't understand the privacy rights of people- and is clearly disturbed. The so called "Don't Say Gay" bill only says that human reproductive science will be age appropriate, Human Reproductive Science is still part of the lives of people who are LGBT.

Gay Marriage is worth fighting for- and all the bigoted rhetoric in the world may be dressed up in Sunday Bests- but it isn't the fault of the religions but the fault of people who are homophobic.

I honestly feel like the gay community is causing the modern anti-gay marriage feelings to continue,  

[Esiris]

Dusty-Boy

I honestly feel like the gay community is causing the modern anti-gay marriage feelings to continue,

I disagree with that- while I think the LGBT community doesn't always respond appropriately- I think there is plenty of bigotry out there to be upset about.  

[--Untoten Kase--]

Don't judge me.
Just love me.
I'm not a criminal, I'm innocent
So come and set me free!

Ugh.. i know.... When I can, I'm moving to Mass where same sex marriage is allowed... AND because I might actually have a true friend there.. .-.

Hmm.. let's see.. how many fanatic Christians flamed, bashed, and blasted me for being Atheist....
hmm... 3 online..
hmmmmmmm...... almost my entire school (exaggeration... I only know about 65 people at that school.. and like 6 or 7 of them are my friends... and some i'm only acquaintances with..) so that's gotta be like 35 people...
Total: 38 people.

They called me a devil worshiper for dressing dark a certain day, liking Marilyn Manson (or basically just any metal band i like) (I owned their asses by saying "I told you I'm Atheist.. Meaning I do NOT believe in God OR the Devil" xD)
Told me to pick up a bible. (which i totally owned them by saying: "I don't wanna bore myself with stupid made-up stories..." ((not to insult anyone.... just my beliefs... x: )) >:3)
Told me to get baptized.. (even if i don't believe in them, I'VE NEVER COMMITTED A SIN!!!)

Many other things... -.-"

I choose ecstasy.
And music's my religion.
Magic is my kingdom
And the dance floor is my heaven.

 

[DJ Arctic Wolf]

America's becoming one big ******** up. I mean, the true meaning of the Declaration of Independence has fallen so far that it would be more effective as paper for wiping ur a** rather than uphold the morality of life.

we really need to rethink this whole country's policy if we are to survive  

[Checkered Dreaming]

Though the country have many issues, there are also better things about it.

America offers more opportunity and social mobility than any other
country, including the countries of Europe.
Work and trade are respectable in America, which is not true
elsewhere.
America has achieved greater social equality than any other society.
People live longer, fuller lives in America.
In America, the young create their destiny, rather than have it made for them.
America has the kindest, gentlest foreign policy of any great power in
world history.
America, the freest nation on earth, is also the most virtuous nation
on earth.

 

[Kelai_Caberin]

Esiris

Dusty-Boy

I honestly feel like the gay community is causing the modern anti-gay marriage feelings to continue,

I disagree with that- while I think the LGBT community doesn't always respond appropriately- I think there is plenty of bigotry out there to be upset about.

People are wrong on both ends. But I think it needs to be addressed that it's not religion or christianity that's causing problems. Its the fundementalists, just like every muslim isn't a terrorist, not every Christian is a violent gay-basher.

Honestly, I think I'm glad one of the biggest problems in our country is about how you can show affection for who you like, not heart-wrenching genocides or something.  

[Matasoga]

I clicked on this thread, and I just couldn't wait to read, but after getting through this page of replies... most of them have me reconsidering my membership here.  

[kittycross]

America does have a lot of problems that come with freedom and self-expression combined with capitalism, fear, the human condition and even just being too large, however if you compare it with the problems of, say, Cambodia, America must look like paradise.

Honestly I'm more of a socialist and have a number of problems with America, but I also realize that it is a higher quality of life than you would find in the majority of the world.

To the OP:
Is it really America specifically that you hate more each day or it it more the human condition and how easily it is driven by fear?

Out of curiosity, what do you do to make the country or your local neighborhood better? The country is made up of all the little place where people live, so if you dislike America and it's attitude, how are you unlike it and are you doing anything to change the state of local social consciousness?  

[iLegoBlock]

Don't forget the patriot act.
I think thats pretty far up there with all these other problems, theyre just different violations.

I honestly believe that America is corrupt beyond the point of no return.
Yes, there is still loving, caring people who want change. But when the government itself doesnt care for change, the future is bleak.

There is a large group of people with a vendetta against the LGBT community, and they arent giving up now.

 

[BSPBleach]

Dusty-Boy

When looking at this issue we must look at both sides, and we must understand that these issues work on a region by region basis, which are further divided into state by state basis

it's not religious fanaticism that is the enemy, it's all these retards that don't understand that in this nation we are promised freedoms, and those should be fought for first with signs and megaphones and soapboxes, and finally with guns, that's right, GUNS.the second amendment was put into place with the idea that we may have to fight either a foreign occupier or defend our freedoms against a fully federalist government (Ohh look what we've had for about 150 years now >.>)

the confederacy was not succeeding solely based on slavery... that war was about something much larger, and unfortunately it was the slave states that rebelled, if say... new england had been been the area rebelling we would have seen a much different reason for the war to have been fought.

The greatest tragedy about the Civil war was that the good guys were so protective of such a horrible thing as slavery... so they lost and their main reason for going to war was overridden by that same issue.

not to disagree, but i was reading the last bit and wanted to ask. has anyone thought that it wasnt the people fighting the war that forgot what it was for, but the people judging the war afterwards and writting it in the history books? the winners make history after all. like if america lost the revolution, a very different light'd be cast upon it (im pretty sure you already said that......)

and oddly enough, as you said the second amendment allows us to take up arms in defense of our rights, yet doing so is illegal. one infringement of many the states has made on its own rules.  

[Esiris]

Kelai_Caberin

Honestly, I think I'm glad one of the biggest problems in our country is about how you can show affection for who you like, not heart-wrenching genocides or something.

I'm happy genocide isn't an issue where I live- but I try not to create scales of injustice- because suffering is suffering.