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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:49 pm
By all rights in my opinion Rituals should have overtaken Synchros when the Djinn showed up in my opinion. Why didn't they? What still makes synchros better than rituals? What do Rituals need in order to be better than synchros?  
PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:36 pm
Speed  

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:38 pm
I raise your burn with a Herald of PERFECTION pheso.. Advanced ritual arts to 2 or 3 that's a solution.  
PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:39 pm
With Manjuu and senju the likely hood of a first turn ritual summon increases dramatically. Rituals are (sorry) faster than synchros. There tributes don't even have to hit the field, and even with an empty hand you can now use the Djinn from the grave to summon them, and give them all sorts of boosted powers.  

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:41 pm
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I raise your burn with a Herald of PERFECTION pheso.. Advanced ritual arts to 2 or 3 that's a solution.
"sorry? what?"  
PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:17 pm
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I raise your burn with a Herald of PERFECTION pheso.. Advanced ritual arts to 2 or 3 that's a solution.

Has anyone ever bothered to do what more look like?  

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:38 pm
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I raise your burn with a Herald of PERFECTION pheso.. Advanced ritual arts to 2 or 3 that's a solution.

Has anyone ever bothered to do what more look like?
"More what? More herald? you lost me"  
PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 5:07 pm
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I raise your burn with a Herald of PERFECTION pheso.. Advanced ritual arts to 2 or 3 that's a solution.

Has anyone ever bothered to do what more look like?
"More what? More herald? you lost me"

I was making fun of him not making any sense.

As for my reasoning behind the word "speed", I suppose I should have said "reliability and ease of use".

I don't feel like going into probability equations, but it's just much more likely you'll be able to get a synchro out than a ritual monster.

This phrase just popped into my head for some reason:

People can base a deck around a ritual MONSTER, or synchro MONSTERS.  

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 5:16 pm
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Synchros on the first turn is beyond easy  
PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 9:01 pm
Synchros are very flexible, and are placed in every deck, where Rituals need a specific deck to focus on a specific ritual monster (Herald of Perfection, Demise King, etc.)

They arent really in the same catagory, Rituals are more like Gemini, they have potential, but they dont have the speed to compare to Synchros.
 

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 9:23 pm
Sorry hun, they're really not all that fast...

All because Synchros aren't required to have on hand, they're faster than Rituals. Due to the mechanics specifying what is necessary for a Ritual Summon, they will never be faster than a scenario such as "Discard Dandylion, summon Quickdraw Synchron".

Manju of the Ten Thousand Hands and Senju of the Thousand Hands are great, they really are... but far from a Ritual Monster being on the field before a Synchro.

Wish there were more to it, but sadly. emo  
PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 10:02 pm
if they make a card that is a substitute for any ritual card and another card that allows you to use monsters in your graveyard for rituals (not just Djins) then maybe  

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 11:36 pm
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Sorry hun, they're really not all that fast...

All because Synchros aren't required to have on hand, they're faster than Rituals. Due to the mechanics specifying what is necessary for a Ritual Summon, they will never be faster than a scenario such as "Discard Dandylion, summon Quickdraw Synchron".

Manju of the Ten Thousand Hands and Senju of the Thousand Hands are great, they really are... but far from a Ritual Monster being on the field before a Synchro.

Wish there were more to it, but sadly. emo
"No a ritual is FASTER. No monsters ever have to hit the field for a ritual monster to be summoned. What rituals aren't though is consistent. It is easy to play a synchro first turn with alot of decks, but rituals do need their monster and spell card. If they have those, they will always be faster."  
PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 4:55 am
The reason Rituals are slower than Synchros is because not only do you need the Ritual material monsters, but you need both the Ritual Monster AND Ritual Spell in hand for them to work. Now if there was a card that allowed you to Ritual Summon a Ritual Monster from your Deck, then that'd be perfect. As it is, two monsters hitting play for a synchro is typically easier than getting 2 monsters, a Ritual monster, and a Ritual Spell in hand.

It's odds and probability, really.  

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 05, 2010 7:48 am
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"No a ritual is FASTER. No monsters ever have to hit the field for a ritual monster to be summoned. What rituals aren't though is consistent. It is easy to play a synchro first turn with alot of decks, but rituals do need their monster and spell card. If they have those, they will always be faster."
No, it's really not faster than a Synchro. neutral

Just like you said, they're not consistent, and dependent on having all the cards on hand or field(or Graveyard, if you play Djinns). It takes time to gather the pieces. Thinking Synchros are slower because the monsters need to be on the field is silly, because it's extremely easy to do, and far easier in comparison to summoning Manju for the search again and again.

Also, with the scenario that a Ritual and a Synchro can both be summoned first turn, Synchros are still faster, because they don't need the resolution of the Spell card Rituals do, which again leave them susceptible to multiple forms of negation and removal before the monster hits the field. You also don't need a Spell card, nor the Synchro monster in hand. Just the monsters for the appropriate level.

All-in-all, you're arguing that Rituals have better speed on a chance, when Synchros have a proven record otherwise. I'd honestly accept that Rituals are far too slow in comparison.  
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