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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:06 pm
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:37 pm
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Jevan R. H. Divinitive Crew
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:39 pm
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 3:33 pm
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 5:01 pm
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 7:21 pm
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I won't rip or gripe, but here's my take on it:
How many people do you actually play with? How many times do you actually go to tournaments (locals/regionals/etc.)? How many of the people you play with follow the meta ritualistically? Last but not least, have you tried constructing 2 different decks?
I play with 2 people at home: My brother and my sister's BF. I go to tourneys once in a blue moon. Both people that I play with have decks that don't really stand a chance against meta. And I have Multiple Decks. For Meta purposes, I have my Infernities, and maybe my GladBeasts if I ever try to update them. For fun purposes, I use Flamvell synchro, and I have a Spellcaster deck which sucks a** compared to the meta but it's a hell of a lot of fun to play.
The point is, try to make a decision on what you do, and, when in doubt, build another deck. That way, when the going gets tough, you get tough back. And when you wanna jerk around with some friends and just throw down for shits and giggles, you have the option.
The point of the game is to try and win, but that doesn't mean you can't have fun even when you lose.
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 7:33 pm
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 7:54 pm
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Aka_Saiyaku I won't rip or gripe, but here's my take on it: How many people do you actually play with? How many times do you actually go to tournaments (locals/regionals/etc.)? How many of the people you play with follow the meta ritualistically? Last but not least, have you tried constructing 2 different decks? I play with 2 people at home: My brother and my sister's BF. I go to tourneys once in a blue moon. Both people that I play with have decks that don't really stand a chance against meta. And I have Multiple Decks. For Meta purposes, I have my Infernities, and maybe my GladBeasts if I ever try to update them. For fun purposes, I use Flamvell synchro, and I have a Spellcaster deck which sucks a** compared to the meta but it's a hell of a lot of fun to play. The point is, try to make a decision on what you do, and, when in doubt, build another deck. That way, when the going gets tough, you get tough back. And when you wanna jerk around with some friends and just throw down for shits and giggles, you have the option. The point of the game is to try and win, but that doesn't mean you can't have fun even when you lose.
In order: IRL I play regularly against 11 or12 people. On Yugiohnetwork I play against several more. Tournaments: Once in a blue moon Of the ones I play with, 5 or 6 play Meta religiously, while another makes the latest Meta deck, but only plays it at tournaments. On YN about 2/3 play Meta And at any given time I have 3 decks, plus my Traditional deck for k&g.
I cannot afford to make a Meta deck, because I kinda live on my own and have bills and such to pay. Right now I have Batterymen, Gravekeepers almost finished, and Cyberdarks. None of these has went more than 3 wins in a 5 Round tournament, and only once have I gotten top 8 by a fluke.
And its kind of hard to have fun when you're looked down upon for not playing Meta/Anti-meta. When I win, which is rare, they usually get mad and break out another deck and whoop me. And when I lose they berate me for not playing suchandsuch and soandso.
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 8:55 pm
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Hizuma the Troublesome Aka_Saiyaku I won't rip or gripe, but here's my take on it: How many people do you actually play with? How many times do you actually go to tournaments (locals/regionals/etc.)? How many of the people you play with follow the meta ritualistically? Last but not least, have you tried constructing 2 different decks? I play with 2 people at home: My brother and my sister's BF. I go to tourneys once in a blue moon. Both people that I play with have decks that don't really stand a chance against meta. And I have Multiple Decks. For Meta purposes, I have my Infernities, and maybe my GladBeasts if I ever try to update them. For fun purposes, I use Flamvell synchro, and I have a Spellcaster deck which sucks a** compared to the meta but it's a hell of a lot of fun to play. The point is, try to make a decision on what you do, and, when in doubt, build another deck. That way, when the going gets tough, you get tough back. And when you wanna jerk around with some friends and just throw down for shits and giggles, you have the option. The point of the game is to try and win, but that doesn't mean you can't have fun even when you lose. In order: IRL I play regularly against 11 or12 people. On Yugiohnetwork I play against several more. Tournaments: Once in a blue moon Of the ones I play with, 5 or 6 play Meta religiously, while another makes the latest Meta deck, but only plays it at tournaments. On YN about 2/3 play Meta And at any given time I have 3 decks, plus my Traditional deck for k&g.
I cannot afford to make a Meta deck, because I kinda live on my own and have bills and such to pay. Right now I have Batterymen, Gravekeepers almost finished, and Cyberdarks. None of these has went more than 3 wins in a 5 Round tournament, and only once have I gotten top 8 by a fluke.
And its kind of hard to have fun when you're looked down upon for not playing Meta/Anti-meta. When I win, which is rare, they usually get mad and break out another deck and whoop me. And when I lose they berate me for not playing suchandsuch and soandso. Well, then I guess it come's down to sticks and stones. You need to be comfortable with yourself and your deck, and if you can do that, it doesn't matter what others say about you. you're still a duelist
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Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:22 pm
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I play decks that I find to be fun. Yeah, they're tooled to include various staple cards such as Lightning Vortex, Brain Control, and (arguably) Dark Bribe, but they're in no way Meta and they typically have a 60/40 Win/Loss Ratio. Admittedly, it tends to lose against meta, but there have been times where it's actually beaten Blackwings, Lightsworn, and Gladiator Beasts. It depends in the quality of the deck as well as the concept. While it doesn't have to be meta at all, there is a level of quality that you should abide if you want to win with a fun deck.
However, if you're looking for a deck that wins more than half the time, you're gonna have to do the research, find a deck that you find fun to play, then you have to tinker with it so that it plays as smoothly as possible.
That being said, there are a ton of archetypes out there that are all but untouched, and even sub-archetypes of those archetypes and sub-sub-archetypes below that! You have to make sure to specialize as much as possible while still having the breathing room to be able to build a deck out of it.
Take Elemental Heroes for example. They've come a LOONG way since Cybernetic Revolution. There are so many different forms of it now! Destiny Heroes, Evil Heroes, Neo-Spacians, WATER Elemental Heroes, FIRE Elemental Heroes, Neos Wiseman-based... all from a single archetype.
There are too many decks to try to be discouraged so quickly! A deck is like a clockwork machine. Obviously, if all of the parts match, the deck typically works well enough. Then you add in some enhancement parts, like a battery or an added function. Sure, you can just stack it all in the frame and hope it'll fit, but it won't run as smoothly if you cram a lot of stuff in there, so you may have to take things out. However, replace the wrong pieces and the entire machine could slow down or stop working entirely!
We the deckbuilders are engineers of another sort. We build the decks, we test the decks, we fine-tune the decks to run at optimum capacity, then we unleash our decks upon the world to duel with! We also help the up-and-coming deckbuilders troubleshoot and figure out what's wrong, which requires patience from both parties involved.
Now I'll say this. If you do not have the patience to build your own deck and fine-tune it enough so that it can at least hold its own in a legitimate game, you should not be playing this game. However, if you believe you can persevere through the frustrations or even swallow your pride and ask another for assistance, then you'll find this game to be much more rewarding than it seems to be.
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Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:51 pm
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Personally, I've kind of just resigned myself to the fact that I will never really be able to justify spending all that money on a card game to build a Meta/Anti-Meta deck. I'll buy random packs, hunt for cards for my decks, and build a deck out of some theme just 'cause I think it's cool, but I can't spend eons of time on this. Besides, I never really liked how everyone seems to use the same 3 decks with only minor variations at tournaments. I mean really, what's the point of releasing all the other cards if all people are going to play are the Meta cards?
(The one exception: I recently pulled a Drill Warrior, and since then I've taken the time and effort to build a deck around him, sort of a Yusei-style, I guess. It's become one of my favorites, but I still enjoy playing with a variety of decks and strategies. Ah, Endymion... blaugh )
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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 5:00 pm
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Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:14 pm
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Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 10:03 pm
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Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:37 am
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