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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 2:56 pm
I was just curious how many people on here were just raised Christian or converted to Christianity from another faith.

I was raised Christian, although there have been times where I was really depressed and I might have called myself an Atheist. But I sat down and read the works of Dawkins and the like and I said "Wow... here we have the leading apologist of Atheism resorting to 'prove it' tactics". And I'm thinking "God came down to Earth as a physical PERSON, what more proof could He give us?!"So I realized how paper-thin arguements against God are.

So I'm still a Christian and everything although I still never quite got the whole "predestination" theology stuff. But it seems that most of us have ALWAYS been Christians... like there's a disconnect between Jesus and culture or something. I dunno why, maybe we're all doing a bad job of explaining it or something xd xp .
We have the Great Comission to fulfill! Come on pplz!  
PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 3:31 pm
I was raised Catholic. I went to CCD classes as a kid and understood the whole Christian thing. I didn't like it all that much when I was 12 because I started questioning a lot of things and many things didn't make sense to me. I converted in Jan 27th, went to a chatroom and saw pretty much what is in rl. A lot of fighting over which religious group is right and which is wrong.. I got tired of being told my views are wrong and being told that I'm not a Christian because I didn't subscribe to one groups views so I went the pagan route. And I'm happy being a pagan. Pagans have a lot of love and compassion for one another and other people. They will help you regardless of your religion. And there really is no fighting over which path is right and which isn't.  

Neferet -House of Night-


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 06, 2008 7:12 pm
My dad's a preacher, so I was raised a Southern Baptist. I've been a Christian since a young age.  
PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:56 am
I guess you could say I was raised Christian, but my mom wasn't a Christian until I was ten, which is when I became a Christian. Before that, we were a part of no particular religion, although my mom was raised Catholic. I didn't really give my life totally to Christ until I was in high school, though.  

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 7:04 am
I wasn't raised Christian, but ended up studying theology at university anyway. I always had an interest, and got obsessed with the Gospel of John when I was 16-18 (we studied it in school). I didn't think of it personally applying until I was at university with a bunch of pastors-to-be though.
I still struggle, and have tried to be other religions (atheist, neo-pagan) before, but could never shake the Christianity thing.  
PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 11:19 am
I wasn't really raised much of anything... more diest than Christian. I converted to Catholicism when I was 19 years old.

My story is a lot more complex than that... but yeah. I'm a convert, most enthusiastically.  

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:02 pm
Dark Angel Rai
I was raised Catholic. I went to CCD classes as a kid and understood the whole Christian thing. I didn't like it all that much when I was 12 because I started questioning a lot of of being told my views are wrong and being told that I'm not a Christian because I didn't subscribe to one groups views so I went the pagan route. And I'm happy being a pagan. Pagans have a lot of love and comthings and many things didn't make sense to me. I converted in Jan 27th, went to a chatroom and saw pretty much what is in rl. A lot of fighting over which religious group is right and which is wrong.. I got tired passion for one another and other people. They will help you regardless of your religion. And there really is no fighting over which path is right and which isn't.

Yeah, I get frusturated when Christians are arguing over what I call "stupid crap". I.e. having rock music in church, do you need to know the exact moment you come to Christ? etc. It absolutely drives me up the wall. As you probably know from CCD, what matters is belief in salvation from Jesus' resurrection.

I can understand where your coming from. I think that all these people who are arguing with one another on the internet and in real life trying to "convert" (via arguing) people are doing more harm than good for thier specifc religions. What matters is the fruits of faith neutral .
Plenty of pagans like yourself are nicer than most Christians, which is another pet peev of mine xp .  
PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:34 pm
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Dark Angel Rai
I was raised Catholic. I went to CCD classes as a kid and understood the whole Christian thing. I didn't like it all that much when I was 12 because I started questioning a lot of of being told my views are wrong and being told that I'm not a Christian because I didn't subscribe to one groups views so I went the pagan route. And I'm happy being a pagan. Pagans have a lot of love and comthings and many things didn't make sense to me. I converted in Jan 27th, went to a chatroom and saw pretty much what is in rl. A lot of fighting over which religious group is right and which is wrong.. I got tired passion for one another and other people. They will help you regardless of your religion. And there really is no fighting over which path is right and which isn't.

Yeah, I get frusturated when Christians are arguing over what I call "stupid crap". I.e. having rock music in church, do you need to know the exact moment you come to Christ? etc. It absolutely drives me up the wall. As you probably know from CCD, what matters is belief in salvation from Jesus' resurrection.

I can understand where your coming from. I think that all these people who are arguing with one another on the internet and in real life trying to "convert" (via arguing) people are doing more harm than good for thier specifc religions. What matters is the fruits of faith neutral .
Plenty of pagans like yourself are nicer than most Christians, which is another pet peev of mine xp .
But the infighting and dogmatic approaches are found in any religious circle. I mean, even in the widespread Wiccan circle you have those that fight over petty things as whether author Silvermoon Ravenwolf does more harm than good for the religious new age community.

You have Asatruar that would argue over whether being eclectic is all right, or if they should join a group and be quite defensive of the faith and one's racial brethren ie the Odinistic Rite. Plenty of National Socialists, neo-Nazis and skinheads can abscribe to Pagan faiths, and there is infighting there.

I think too often the whole argument over how much infighting and judgment is found within Christian circles is used as an excuse not to be a follower. I think that not mentioned enough is the fact that they honestly still do not have an understanding of Christianity, could not deal well with the guilt, which they shouldn't have to have much of to begin with. However, had they felt guilty of something, it's probably due to being wrong to begin with in most cases.

It's just a little aggravating sometimes, seeing how much my faith gets bashed and how many times I'm told what my faith is and what it means by others that aren't even involved in it. It's such a pain.  

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 4:04 pm
Just Tony
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Dark Angel Rai
I was raised Catholic. I went to CCD classes as a kid and understood the whole Christian thing. I didn't like it all that much when I was 12 because I started questioning a lot of of being told my views are wrong and being told that I'm not a Christian because I didn't subscribe to one groups views so I went the pagan route. And I'm happy being a pagan. Pagans have a lot of love and comthings and many things didn't make sense to me. I converted in Jan 27th, went to a chatroom and saw pretty much what is in rl. A lot of fighting over which religious group is right and which is wrong.. I got tired passion for one another and other people. They will help you regardless of your religion. And there really is no fighting over which path is right and which isn't.

Yeah, I get frusturated when Christians are arguing over what I call "stupid crap". I.e. having rock music in church, do you need to know the exact moment you come to Christ? etc. It absolutely drives me up the wall. As you probably know from CCD, what matters is belief in salvation from Jesus' resurrection.

I can understand where your coming from. I think that all these people who are arguing with one another on the internet and in real life trying to "convert" (via arguing) people are doing more harm than good for thier specifc religions. What matters is the fruits of faith neutral .
Plenty of pagans like yourself are nicer than most Christians, which is another pet peev of mine xp .
But the infighting and dogmatic approaches are found in any religious circle. I mean, even in the widespread Wiccan circle you have those that fight over petty things as whether author Silvermoon Ravenwolf does more harm than good for the religious new age community.

You have Asatruar that would argue over whether being eclectic is all right, or if they should join a group and be quite defensive of the faith and one's racial brethren ie the Odinistic Rite. Plenty of National Socialists, neo-Nazis and skinheads can abscribe to Pagan faiths, and there is infighting there.

I think too often the whole argument over how much infighting and judgment is found within Christian circles is used as an excuse not to be a follower. I think that not mentioned enough is the fact that they honestly still do not have an understanding of Christianity, could not deal well with the guilt, which they shouldn't have to have much of to begin with. However, had they felt guilty of something, it's probably due to being wrong to begin with in most cases.

It's just a little aggravating sometimes, seeing how much my faith gets bashed and how many times I'm told what my faith is and what it means by others that aren't even involved in it. It's such a pain.

Hmm, well I was never certainly aware of the amount of infighting among pagan circles. Sounds, like... alot o_o.

Ah, yeah well I'm glad you can understand about how, well everyone infights :. It happens in almost any group. There's always a conflict of interests and what people think is the right wa to solve things.

I assume your pagan then?  
PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 6:53 pm
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Just Tony
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Dark Angel Rai
I was raised Catholic. I went to CCD classes as a kid and understood the whole Christian thing. I didn't like it all that much when I was 12 because I started questioning a lot of of being told my views are wrong and being told that I'm not a Christian because I didn't subscribe to one groups views so I went the pagan route. And I'm happy being a pagan. Pagans have a lot of love and comthings and many things didn't make sense to me. I converted in Jan 27th, went to a chatroom and saw pretty much what is in rl. A lot of fighting over which religious group is right and which is wrong.. I got tired passion for one another and other people. They will help you regardless of your religion. And there really is no fighting over which path is right and which isn't.

Yeah, I get frusturated when Christians are arguing over what I call "stupid crap". I.e. having rock music in church, do you need to know the exact moment you come to Christ? etc. It absolutely drives me up the wall. As you probably know from CCD, what matters is belief in salvation from Jesus' resurrection.

I can understand where your coming from. I think that all these people who are arguing with one another on the internet and in real life trying to "convert" (via arguing) people are doing more harm than good for thier specifc religions. What matters is the fruits of faith neutral .
Plenty of pagans like yourself are nicer than most Christians, which is another pet peev of mine xp .
But the infighting and dogmatic approaches are found in any religious circle. I mean, even in the widespread Wiccan circle you have those that fight over petty things as whether author Silvermoon Ravenwolf does more harm than good for the religious new age community.

You have Asatruar that would argue over whether being eclectic is all right, or if they should join a group and be quite defensive of the faith and one's racial brethren ie the Odinistic Rite. Plenty of National Socialists, neo-Nazis and skinheads can abscribe to Pagan faiths, and there is infighting there.

I think too often the whole argument over how much infighting and judgment is found within Christian circles is used as an excuse not to be a follower. I think that not mentioned enough is the fact that they honestly still do not have an understanding of Christianity, could not deal well with the guilt, which they shouldn't have to have much of to begin with. However, had they felt guilty of something, it's probably due to being wrong to begin with in most cases.

It's just a little aggravating sometimes, seeing how much my faith gets bashed and how many times I'm told what my faith is and what it means by others that aren't even involved in it. It's such a pain.

Hmm, well I was never certainly aware of the amount of infighting among pagan circles. Sounds, like... alot o_o.

Ah, yeah well I'm glad you can understand about how, well everyone infights :. It happens in almost any group. There's always a conflict of interests and what people think is the right wa to solve things.

I assume your pagan then?
A lot of the pagan infighting mainly goes on because you have the Wiccans claiming the Wicca is one of the oldest pagan religion when really it's a newbiew religion at just 50 years of age.  

Neferet -House of Night-


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 1:22 pm
Dark Angel Rai
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Just Tony
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Dark Angel Rai
I was raised Catholic. I went to CCD classes as a kid and understood the whole Christian thing. I didn't like it all that much when I was 12 because I started questioning a lot of of being told my views are wrong and being told that I'm not a Christian because I didn't subscribe to one groups views so I went the pagan route. And I'm happy being a pagan. Pagans have a lot of love and comthings and many things didn't make sense to me. I converted in Jan 27th, went to a chatroom and saw pretty much what is in rl. A lot of fighting over which religious group is right and which is wrong.. I got tired passion for one another and other people. They will help you regardless of your religion. And there really is no fighting over which path is right and which isn't.

Yeah, I get frusturated when Christians are arguing over what I call "stupid crap". I.e. having rock music in church, do you need to know the exact moment you come to Christ? etc. It absolutely drives me up the wall. As you probably know from CCD, what matters is belief in salvation from Jesus' resurrection.

I can understand where your coming from. I think that all these people who are arguing with one another on the internet and in real life trying to "convert" (via arguing) people are doing more harm than good for thier specifc religions. What matters is the fruits of faith neutral .
Plenty of pagans like yourself are nicer than most Christians, which is another pet peev of mine xp .
But the infighting and dogmatic approaches are found in any religious circle. I mean, even in the widespread Wiccan circle you have those that fight over petty things as whether author Silvermoon Ravenwolf does more harm than good for the religious new age community.

You have Asatruar that would argue over whether being eclectic is all right, or if they should join a group and be quite defensive of the faith and one's racial brethren ie the Odinistic Rite. Plenty of National Socialists, neo-Nazis and skinheads can abscribe to Pagan faiths, and there is infighting there.

I think too often the whole argument over how much infighting and judgment is found within Christian circles is used as an excuse not to be a follower. I think that not mentioned enough is the fact that they honestly still do not have an understanding of Christianity, could not deal well with the guilt, which they shouldn't have to have much of to begin with. However, had they felt guilty of something, it's probably due to being wrong to begin with in most cases.

It's just a little aggravating sometimes, seeing how much my faith gets bashed and how many times I'm told what my faith is and what it means by others that aren't even involved in it. It's such a pain.

Hmm, well I was never certainly aware of the amount of infighting among pagan circles. Sounds, like... alot o_o.

Ah, yeah well I'm glad you can understand about how, well everyone infights :. It happens in almost any group. There's always a conflict of interests and what people think is the right wa to solve things.

I assume your pagan then?
A lot of the pagan infighting mainly goes on because you have the Wiccans claiming the Wicca is one of the oldest pagan religion when really it's a newbiew religion at just 50 years of age.

Ah, well it's kind of both. I mean it was around for centuries being just known as "Paganism" or "Animism"... but then (if I remember right) some English guy showed up and started calling it Wicca.
The idea was around for many millenia, but the name/organization started 50 years ago.  
PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:20 pm
I dont follow any religion really....i just recentl became interested in the subject and honestly? i understand Christianity more than most Christians ive met o.0
( BTW i think one of the reasons why some pagans may be seen as nicer than Christians is because usually when a christian is helping someone,theyre also trying to make it into a ' mission ' )
i hope i worded this right >.>  

Joseph Crossheart


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 2:38 am
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Dark Angel Rai
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Dark Angel Rai
I was raised Catholic. I went to CCD classes as a kid and understood the whole Christian thing. I didn't like it all that much when I was 12 because I started questioning a lot of of being told my views are wrong and being told that I'm not a Christian because I didn't subscribe to one groups views so I went the pagan route. And I'm happy being a pagan. Pagans have a lot of love and comthings and many things didn't make sense to me. I converted in Jan 27th, went to a chatroom and saw pretty much what is in rl. A lot of fighting over which religious group is right and which is wrong.. I got tired passion for one another and other people. They will help you regardless of your religion. And there really is no fighting over which path is right and which isn't.

Yeah, I get frusturated when Christians are arguing over what I call "stupid crap". I.e. having rock music in church, do you need to know the exact moment you come to Christ? etc. It absolutely drives me up the wall. As you probably know from CCD, what matters is belief in salvation from Jesus' resurrection.

I can understand where your coming from. I think that all these people who are arguing with one another on the internet and in real life trying to "convert" (via arguing) people are doing more harm than good for thier specifc religions. What matters is the fruits of faith neutral .
Plenty of pagans like yourself are nicer than most Christians, which is another pet peev of mine xp .
But the infighting and dogmatic approaches are found in any religious circle. I mean, even in the widespread Wiccan circle you have those that fight over petty things as whether author Silvermoon Ravenwolf does more harm than good for the religious new age community.

You have Asatruar that would argue over whether being eclectic is all right, or if they should join a group and be quite defensive of the faith and one's racial brethren ie the Odinistic Rite. Plenty of National Socialists, neo-Nazis and skinheads can abscribe to Pagan faiths, and there is infighting there.

I think too often the whole argument over how much infighting and judgment is found within Christian circles is used as an excuse not to be a follower. I think that not mentioned enough is the fact that they honestly still do not have an understanding of Christianity, could not deal well with the guilt, which they shouldn't have to have much of to begin with. However, had they felt guilty of something, it's probably due to being wrong to begin with in most cases.

It's just a little aggravating sometimes, seeing how much my faith gets bashed and how many times I'm told what my faith is and what it means by others that aren't even involved in it. It's such a pain.

Hmm, well I was never certainly aware of the amount of infighting among pagan circles. Sounds, like... alot o_o.

Ah, yeah well I'm glad you can understand about how, well everyone infights :. It happens in almost any group. There's always a conflict of interests and what people think is the right wa to solve things.

I assume your pagan then?
A lot of the pagan infighting mainly goes on because you have the Wiccans claiming the Wicca is one of the oldest pagan religion when really it's a newbiew religion at just 50 years of age.

Ah, well it's kind of both. I mean it was around for centuries being just known as "Paganism" or "Animism"... but then (if I remember right) some English guy showed up and started calling it Wicca.
The idea was around for many millenia, but the name/organization started 50 years ago.


That's wrong really, its like Calling a Sports Car a Horse...because we had Horses before we had Sports Cars. Wicca likes to claim big mighty routes to old religions , when in reality Gardner just made it all up, while borrowing heavily from Hinduism, Satanism and a lot of very unreliable sources.  
PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 10:50 am
We Dont Negotiate
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Dark Angel Rai
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Just Tony
But the infighting and dogmatic approaches are found in any religious circle. I mean, even in the widespread Wiccan circle you have those that fight over petty things as whether author Silvermoon Ravenwolf does more harm than good for the religious new age community.

You have Asatruar that would argue over whether being eclectic is all right, or if they should join a group and be quite defensive of the faith and one's racial brethren ie the Odinistic Rite. Plenty of National Socialists, neo-Nazis and skinheads can abscribe to Pagan faiths, and there is infighting there.

I think too often the whole argument over how much infighting and judgment is found within Christian circles is used as an excuse not to be a follower. I think that not mentioned enough is the fact that they honestly still do not have an understanding of Christianity, could not deal well with the guilt, which they shouldn't have to have much of to begin with. However, had they felt guilty of something, it's probably due to being wrong to begin with in most cases.

It's just a little aggravating sometimes, seeing how much my faith gets bashed and how many times I'm told what my faith is and what it means by others that aren't even involved in it. It's such a pain.

Hmm, well I was never certainly aware of the amount of infighting among pagan circles. Sounds, like... alot o_o.

Ah, yeah well I'm glad you can understand about how, well everyone infights :. It happens in almost any group. There's always a conflict of interests and what people think is the right wa to solve things.

I assume your pagan then?
A lot of the pagan infighting mainly goes on because you have the Wiccans claiming the Wicca is one of the oldest pagan religion when really it's a newbiew religion at just 50 years of age.

Ah, well it's kind of both. I mean it was around for centuries being just known as "Paganism" or "Animism"... but then (if I remember right) some English guy showed up and started calling it Wicca.
The idea was around for many millenia, but the name/organization started 50 years ago.


That's wrong really, its like Calling a Sports Car a Horse...because we had Horses before we had Sports Cars. Wicca likes to claim big mighty routes to old religions , when in reality Gardner just made it all up, while borrowing heavily from Hinduism, Satanism and a lot of very unreliable sources.

Hmm, well I can't say I know the details of it as a religion. I thought that Wicca practitioners just sort of came up with thier own beliefs and opinions about worshipping nature?
Haha, I'm kinda confused.  

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 12:33 pm
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But the infighting and dogmatic approaches are found in any religious circle. I mean, even in the widespread Wiccan circle you have those that fight over petty things as whether author Silvermoon Ravenwolf does more harm than good for the religious new age community.

You have Asatruar that would argue over whether being eclectic is all right, or if they should join a group and be quite defensive of the faith and one's racial brethren ie the Odinistic Rite. Plenty of National Socialists, neo-Nazis and skinheads can abscribe to Pagan faiths, and there is infighting there.

I think too often the whole argument over how much infighting and judgment is found within Christian circles is used as an excuse not to be a follower. I think that not mentioned enough is the fact that they honestly still do not have an understanding of Christianity, could not deal well with the guilt, which they shouldn't have to have much of to begin with. However, had they felt guilty of something, it's probably due to being wrong to begin with in most cases.

It's just a little aggravating sometimes, seeing how much my faith gets bashed and how many times I'm told what my faith is and what it means by others that aren't even involved in it. It's such a pain.

Hmm, well I was never certainly aware of the amount of infighting among pagan circles. Sounds, like... alot o_o.

Ah, yeah well I'm glad you can understand about how, well everyone infights :. It happens in almost any group. There's always a conflict of interests and what people think is the right wa to solve things.

I assume your pagan then?
A lot of the pagan infighting mainly goes on because you have the Wiccans claiming the Wicca is one of the oldest pagan religion when really it's a newbiew religion at just 50 years of age.

Ah, well it's kind of both. I mean it was around for centuries being just known as "Paganism" or "Animism"... but then (if I remember right) some English guy showed up and started calling it Wicca.
The idea was around for many millenia, but the name/organization started 50 years ago.


That's wrong really, its like Calling a Sports Car a Horse...because we had Horses before we had Sports Cars. Wicca likes to claim big mighty routes to old religions , when in reality Gardner just made it all up, while borrowing heavily from Hinduism, Satanism and a lot of very unreliable sources.

Hmm, well I can't say I know the details of it as a religion. I thought that Wicca practitioners just sort of came up with thier own beliefs and opinions about worshipping nature?
Haha, I'm kinda confused.

That's eclectics I believe. Wiccans are taught to love everything in nature and preserve it. And not to harm anyone. "And if it harm none, Do what you will"  
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