What character do you want to see?

[Herry Rockabore]

I got in a bit of a debate with someone on youtube over this and I'm curious about what you guys think.

This girl was saying that she was excited to see Pocahontas and Mulan show up in the next season, since she said this is ABC which is owned by Disney and uses Disney names and references so she legitimately and strongly believes that they'd actually incorporate those stories into OUaT, which I think is a totally stupid thing to think.

I kept telling her that this is a show about fairytales NOT history or historical fiction. Both Mulan and Pocahontas are based on real life stories (or in Mulan's case MAY be based on one since no one knows whether its true or not). Mulan was based on a poem in China about a girl who fought along side male warriors in a real war. After the war, she was honored for her valor and later she met back with her fellow warriors as a woman and it surprised them that she was a lovely young lady. That story is pretty un-fairytale like. It's something that could be ordinary life without enchanted elements or really any ties to Western fairytales at all so it would be odd and out of place set along side other fairytales. I mean, granted, Aladdin isn't really Western in culture but it actually has plenty of fairytale elements that Mulan doesn't and by saying Agrabah it is a fictional place, you can't really do that with China.

Pocahontas, don't even get me started on how many reasons this can't happen. Pocahontas is based on actual historical people. Also, Pocahontas was about 12 and John Smith was at least 28 and they probably weren't lovers. Regardless of that, she didn't even get a happily ever after in the movie with him since John Smith left to England without her. Plus the only fairytale element to speak of is Grandmother Willow and that's kind of iffy at best at calling her that since she really didn't affect any of the story. Besides that in REAL history she married a man named John Rolfe and, from all accounts I've read, seemed to have a happy rest of her life with him (though she died young of an illness). And even if we disregard all the historical liberties, Disney's Pocahontas didn't sit well with the real Native Americans, which isn't a huge surprise most Native Americans dislike their portrayals in any medium and Disney made their culture very stereotyped. And portraying it in OUaT would make it look like a part of their history is a fabricated fairytale rather than a real life account of a remarkable woman. believe Pocahontas will NEVER happen on OUAT. Oh and to put the very final nail in that coffin. Pocahontas and all of her Disney story took place in one definite, actual place, Virginia! Not Maine where Storybrooke is.

I really can't see either of these happening. What do you all think?  

[LilPinkCandy]

Herry Rockabore

LilPinkCandy

Queen-of-the-Rogue

LilPinkCandy

Queen-of-the-Rogue

Ariel has been mentioned at least. So it almost counts as a cameo.

I don't remember Ariel being mentioned, lol.

She wasn't mentioned by name but in Belle's episode at the end when Regina comes to tell Rumple that Belle is dead and to more or less gloat she says "I need some help with a mermaid problem." It's not the exact wording I don't think but I'm too lazy to look it up on my DVR.

Oh your right! I totally forgot about that. I really hope the next season starts out with Ariel fitting in somehow. I'll be slightly upset if they don't make her a redhead although I don't remember Hans Christian Anderson's Little Mermaid story says the color of her hair....

Considering OUaT's Disney nods I'm willing to bet that Ariel will be a redhead. smile I dunno how I feel about Regina filling Ursula's role. It seems like something she shouldn't waste her time doing when she has enough on her plate conspiring against Snow. Plus we need more spotlight villains here.

The Power of Three will set you free...

Yeah that's a little stinky if shes filling the Ursula role. I was slightly upset that Mr. Gold filled two roles as well.

Prudence, Penelope, Patricia, Melinda...
Astrid, Helena, Laura, and Grace.
Halliwell Witches, stand strong beside us,
vanquish this evil from time and space.

 

[MissMoppy]

Herry Rockabore

I really can't see either of these happening. What do you all think?

I agree with you. They aren't fairytale based, even though they are Disney animations, so it's unlikely they'll be additions to the show.

Though they have touched on Greek mythology. Anyone think they might expand more on that?

 

[Queen-of-the-Rogue]

MissMoppy

Herry Rockabore

I really can't see either of these happening. What do you all think?

I agree with you. They aren't fairytale based, even though they are Disney animations, so it's unlikely they'll be additions to the show.

Though they have touched on Greek mythology. Anyone think they might expand more on that?

I do think there is plenty in Greek Mythology for them to touch on. There are so many stories and it would be interesting to see how they handle them. Maybe the Cassandra of Troy plotline? The whole seeing the future but cursed so no one believes her? That would be interesting. I'm a fan of Greek Mythology so I wouldn't mind some more nods to that, especially since Midas is one of my least favorites but they did so well with it.  

[Herry Rockabore]

Queen-of-the-Rogue

MissMoppy

Herry Rockabore

I really can't see either of these happening. What do you all think?

I agree with you. They aren't fairytale based, even though they are Disney animations, so it's unlikely they'll be additions to the show.

Though they have touched on Greek mythology. Anyone think they might expand more on that?

I do think there is plenty in Greek Mythology for them to touch on. There are so many stories and it would be interesting to see how they handle them. Maybe the Cassandra of Troy plotline? The whole seeing the future but cursed so no one believes her? That would be interesting. I'm a fan of Greek Mythology so I wouldn't mind some more nods to that, especially since Midas is one of my least favorites but they did so well with it.

Great point Rogue. I think that a lot could be pulled from Greek mythology. The Midas story is a really good one for them to have pulled from since there are a lot of different versions with how he got the curse and how the story plays out that differ from the original Grecian version. I wonder which others they could adapt. I think that Pandora's Box might be intriguing as a plot point since so much could be at stake if that was a plot device.  

[Queen-of-the-Rogue]

Herry Rockabore

Queen-of-the-Rogue

MissMoppy

Herry Rockabore

I really can't see either of these happening. What do you all think?

I agree with you. They aren't fairytale based, even though they are Disney animations, so it's unlikely they'll be additions to the show.

Though they have touched on Greek mythology. Anyone think they might expand more on that?

I do think there is plenty in Greek Mythology for them to touch on. There are so many stories and it would be interesting to see how they handle them. Maybe the Cassandra of Troy plotline? The whole seeing the future but cursed so no one believes her? That would be interesting. I'm a fan of Greek Mythology so I wouldn't mind some more nods to that, especially since Midas is one of my least favorites but they did so well with it.

Great point Rogue. I think that a lot could be pulled from Greek mythology. The Midas story is a really good one for them to have pulled from since there are a lot of different versions with how he got the curse and how the story plays out that differ from the original Grecian version. I wonder which others they could adapt. I think that Pandora's Box might be intriguing as a plot point since so much could be at stake if that was a plot device.

It would be, Charmed did Pandora's box one time and it was actually very well done.

Technically the Siren was out of Greek Mythology but they changed up her role a bit. She didn't lure men to their death by singing, just by becoming what they most desire.  

[Herry Rockabore]

Queen-of-the-Rogue

Herry Rockabore

Queen-of-the-Rogue

MissMoppy

Herry Rockabore

I really can't see either of these happening. What do you all think?

I agree with you. They aren't fairytale based, even though they are Disney animations, so it's unlikely they'll be additions to the show.

Though they have touched on Greek mythology. Anyone think they might expand more on that?

I do think there is plenty in Greek Mythology for them to touch on. There are so many stories and it would be interesting to see how they handle them. Maybe the Cassandra of Troy plotline? The whole seeing the future but cursed so no one believes her? That would be interesting. I'm a fan of Greek Mythology so I wouldn't mind some more nods to that, especially since Midas is one of my least favorites but they did so well with it.

Great point Rogue. I think that a lot could be pulled from Greek mythology. The Midas story is a really good one for them to have pulled from since there are a lot of different versions with how he got the curse and how the story plays out that differ from the original Grecian version. I wonder which others they could adapt. I think that Pandora's Box might be intriguing as a plot point since so much could be at stake if that was a plot device.

It would be, Charmed did Pandora's box one time and it was actually very well done.

Technically the Siren was out of Greek Mythology but they changed up her role a bit. She didn't lure men to their death by singing, just by becoming what they most desire.

Yeah also maybe doing a take on the Orpheus story could work.  

[Queen-of-the-Rogue]

Herry Rockabore

Queen-of-the-Rogue

Herry Rockabore

Queen-of-the-Rogue

MissMoppy

Herry Rockabore

I really can't see either of these happening. What do you all think?

I agree with you. They aren't fairytale based, even though they are Disney animations, so it's unlikely they'll be additions to the show.

Though they have touched on Greek mythology. Anyone think they might expand more on that?

I do think there is plenty in Greek Mythology for them to touch on. There are so many stories and it would be interesting to see how they handle them. Maybe the Cassandra of Troy plotline? The whole seeing the future but cursed so no one believes her? That would be interesting. I'm a fan of Greek Mythology so I wouldn't mind some more nods to that, especially since Midas is one of my least favorites but they did so well with it.

Great point Rogue. I think that a lot could be pulled from Greek mythology. The Midas story is a really good one for them to have pulled from since there are a lot of different versions with how he got the curse and how the story plays out that differ from the original Grecian version. I wonder which others they could adapt. I think that Pandora's Box might be intriguing as a plot point since so much could be at stake if that was a plot device.

It would be, Charmed did Pandora's box one time and it was actually very well done.

Technically the Siren was out of Greek Mythology but they changed up her role a bit. She didn't lure men to their death by singing, just by becoming what they most desire.

Yeah also maybe doing a take on the Orpheus story could work.

Orpheus would be interesting. As would Oedipus if you stop and think about it. His was a very twisted story, which is just what people like in OUAT.  

[Herry Rockabore]

Queen-of-the-Rogue

Herry Rockabore

Queen-of-the-Rogue

Herry Rockabore

Queen-of-the-Rogue

I do think there is plenty in Greek Mythology for them to touch on. There are so many stories and it would be interesting to see how they handle them. Maybe the Cassandra of Troy plotline? The whole seeing the future but cursed so no one believes her? That would be interesting. I'm a fan of Greek Mythology so I wouldn't mind some more nods to that, especially since Midas is one of my least favorites but they did so well with it.

Great point Rogue. I think that a lot could be pulled from Greek mythology. The Midas story is a really good one for them to have pulled from since there are a lot of different versions with how he got the curse and how the story plays out that differ from the original Grecian version. I wonder which others they could adapt. I think that Pandora's Box might be intriguing as a plot point since so much could be at stake if that was a plot device.

It would be, Charmed did Pandora's box one time and it was actually very well done.

Technically the Siren was out of Greek Mythology but they changed up her role a bit. She didn't lure men to their death by singing, just by becoming what they most desire.

Yeah also maybe doing a take on the Orpheus story could work.

Orpheus would be interesting. As would Oedipus if you stop and think about it. His was a very twisted story, which is just what people like in OUAT.

That would be pretty out there but thinking about it maybe some Shakespearian things would work too, though if they did that they'd have to be flexible on their definition of fairytale. I was thinking myths and folklore would be givens.  

[Queen-of-the-Rogue]

Herry Rockabore

That would be pretty out there but thinking about it maybe some Shakespearian things would work too, though if they did that they'd have to be flexible on their definition of fairytale. I was thinking myths and folklore would be givens.

Midsummer Night's Dream for the Win? I don't see Romeo and Juliet or Julius Ceaser.  

[Herry Rockabore]

Queen-of-the-Rogue

Herry Rockabore

That would be pretty out there but thinking about it maybe some Shakespearian things would work too, though if they did that they'd have to be flexible on their definition of fairytale. I was thinking myths and folklore would be givens.

Midsummer Night's Dream for the Win? I don't see Romeo and Juliet or Julius Ceaser.

Yes indeedy. Especially the fairies.  

[Queen-of-the-Rogue]

Herry Rockabore

Queen-of-the-Rogue

Herry Rockabore

That would be pretty out there but thinking about it maybe some Shakespearian things would work too, though if they did that they'd have to be flexible on their definition of fairytale. I was thinking myths and folklore would be givens.

Midsummer Night's Dream for the Win? I don't see Romeo and Juliet or Julius Ceaser.

Yes indeedy. Especially the fairies.

Puck can be Henry's Father! rofl  

[Herry Rockabore]

Queen-of-the-Rogue

Herry Rockabore

Queen-of-the-Rogue

Herry Rockabore

That would be pretty out there but thinking about it maybe some Shakespearian things would work too, though if they did that they'd have to be flexible on their definition of fairytale. I was thinking myths and folklore would be givens.

Midsummer Night's Dream for the Win? I don't see Romeo and Juliet or Julius Ceaser.

Yes indeedy. Especially the fairies.

Puck can be Henry's Father! rofl

xd  

[Queen-of-the-Rogue]

Herry Rockabore

Queen-of-the-Rogue

Herry Rockabore

Queen-of-the-Rogue

Herry Rockabore

That would be pretty out there but thinking about it maybe some Shakespearian things would work too, though if they did that they'd have to be flexible on their definition of fairytale. I was thinking myths and folklore would be givens.

Midsummer Night's Dream for the Win? I don't see Romeo and Juliet or Julius Ceaser.

Yes indeedy. Especially the fairies.

Puck can be Henry's Father! rofl

xd

I couldn't resist! You have to admit, Puck being involved with Emma in some form or another would be awesome.  

[Herry Rockabore]

Queen-of-the-Rogue

Herry Rockabore

Queen-of-the-Rogue

Herry Rockabore

Queen-of-the-Rogue

Herry Rockabore

That would be pretty out there but thinking about it maybe some Shakespearian things would work too, though if they did that they'd have to be flexible on their definition of fairytale. I was thinking myths and folklore would be givens.

Midsummer Night's Dream for the Win? I don't see Romeo and Juliet or Julius Ceaser.

Yes indeedy. Especially the fairies.

Puck can be Henry's Father! rofl

xd

I couldn't resist! You have to admit, Puck being involved with Emma in some form or another would be awesome.

Now that would be something to see, I must admit.