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Okay, this OP has undergone a FULL revamp, due to the fact that some people have misunderstandings about what I am trying to express. Hopefully this will help.

I am an androgyne, which means I that my gender is neither male nor female. I am not intersexed. I do not have two sets of genitalia.

Gender is different from sex. Sex refers to whether you have a p***s or a v****a, breasts or facial hair. Those things are sex. I am sexed female, which means that I have breasts and a v****a. As far as I know, I am fertile and capable of bearing young, physiologically. Gender is defined by how you identify. It also has social connotations. I am gendered androgyne, which means I am uncomfortable both as a female and as a male.

The word androgyne does not refer to the fashion or appearance of being androgynous. It refers to gender identity. Androgynes are people who are transgendered but do not identify as a guy or a girl. Some people refer to being an androgyne as the "third gender," the "fourth gender," a "gender outlaw," "genderqueer" or "two spirited." Two spirited is a Native American term which is also used to describe transgendered people.

There are many gender varieties that identify as androgyne. These may include those who feel as though they are neither gender, those who feel as though they are both genders (bigendered) and those who feel as if they are another gender altogether. I’ve recently discovered information on a group called neutrois, of which I may be one, which may or may not fall under the category of androgyne, which feels that they are neither male nor female and desires surgical assistance to change their body to be neither. I personally believe that these people are to androgynes as transsexuals are to transgendered. I do not feel like I am male or female and I do desire hysterectomy and possibly breast reduction, at minimum, to feel less female and appear more masculine, making me more androgynous. I cannot handle my menstrual cycle without severe depression.

An androgyne can have any sexual orientation, though some people have suggested that androgynes may be more attracted to other androgynes than non-androgynes. I have personally seen nothing to substantiate this claim. An androgyne who prefers females might declare orientation based on birth sex or refer to the self as gynephilic. An androgyne who prefers males may declare orientation based on birth sex or refer to the self as androphilic.

There are no set pronouns for use with androgynes. Some choose to use the plural "they." Others use pronouns such as "hir," "sie," "zie," "per," "ze," "ey," and "em." The only way to know which to use is to ask. I personally use the shortform of my name, Tay, as a pronoun with most people who know about me, though in the business world and the school world, I allow the use of the pronoun “she” as it is my birth sex.

What are your thoughts on this gender identity?

Had you ever heard of it before?

Would you date an androgyne?

Anything else you want to say/add in regards to this?

Commonly asked Questions:
There are a few questions that are often asked of me. I’m going to post them here so you don’t have to keep asking.


Why does it matter? Honestly. I’m an androgyne. If you are asking about the state of my reproductive organs, which is really none of your business, I am female.


I consider myself gynephilic, which means I personally find females more attractive than males (in reference to gender) but will make exceptions for the right guy, such as my Owner. I’m engaged to a lovely young woman and am Owned by her boyfriend, both of whom are transgendered.


Actually, I’m estranged from my family and they do not know. A handful of my friends know. This does not mean that they treat me as I wish to be treated. I am afraid of coming out to many of them.



Have you ever done something and just had this deep and soulwrenching feeling of WRONG? I can't explain it any better than that. I put on makeup or act like a girl and I feel WRONG. I bind my chest and pack my pants and act like a boy and I feel WRONG. I dress and act somewhere in between? I feel right. I just can't explain it any better than that. It's a feeling deep in my soul. I'd imagine that a transgendered person feels similarly when, for instance, growing up a biological male is forced into jeans and a t-shirt, but all "he" really wants is to wear a dress and makeup.

This is not restricted to clothing. This feeling comes up when people treat me like a girl. This feeling comes up when people treat me like a guy.


I did not make it up. As for whether androgynes are recognised by psychiatrists, that’s a hard question to answer. The western world, unlike many other parts of the world, does not make allowances for people who do not fit into the gender binary of male/female.

That said, the APA does make some mention of us.

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Further questions may be added at any time.

In Psychology we were taught about Androgynous people but I'm still kind of confused about it. In my class we were taught that it was a problem that the brain had with synchronising with the chromosomes to identify as a gender.

But from what I've read from the few Androgynous people I've met, they made it seem like a choice to not identify.

I see an Androgynous person as just another human being, so I don't see any reason someone would have to prosecute them as a failed gender.

I've never heard of it before and I have no clue what it is even after you explained it,I need a dumber version understand...Can you please explain it more clearly for me?

I'm just curious, how would you know if you feel like neither? Do you feel like you do not identify with gender examples you see? How do you compare yourself to something you can't experience?

I know what you mean. After I learned about it, it really had me thinking that I was Androgynous, but I didn't look it so I assumed I was jsut overanalyzing things. But after reading through the link you supplied in your first post, apparantly not all Androgynous people LOOK Androgynous. And now I'm curious again as to whether or not I am.

What are your thoughts on this gender identity? ..It's me.

Had you ever heard of it before? Yes, of course.

Would you date an androgyne? Of course.

Anything else you want to say/add in regards to this?
I've thought about it myself.. I've always been considered a 'tomboy' by friends and family but it never felt right.. It's never felt right to wear 'girly' vor 'boyish' clothes.. I'm in between really. I'be never considered myself a girl or a boy because I didn't like the idea of being etiher or both. I discovered 'androgyne' last year and was intrigued by it, and have considered myself one since. I haven't told family or friends because I live in a mostly religous area and was raised Christian.. though I'm not nowadays.
I wouldn't want to tell them anyway because then they would just call me 'Bi.'
..Which is incorrect. I mean sure, if I found someone I was really in love with then yeah.. but I prefer guys.. I just choose to not be considered male or female. I hope to find someone who can understand this and like me for me, and not my gender.

And sorry if I don't make sense.. I'm super tired.

I'm going to have to ask you to elaborate a bit, are you speaking of androgynous people as a whole, those with physical features making it difficult to tell their gender, those who dress androgynously, or those with the androgynous mentality?

If you're speaking of those who dress that way, I'd have to say "Eh, doesn't bother me. I'd date a girl like that I suppose, but it annoys me when I see a trap." (For those who don't know, a trap would be a male who has the appearance of a female.)

Those with the physical features that make it confusing... Again, I might date a girl like that if her personality was a hardcore enough win.

Androgynous mentality though? That seems to be the norm as of late, or working hard on becoming that way at least. There are guys who think emotionally and girls that think logically reguardless of sexual preference. Personally, it appears that I'm able to pass for either gender without trying, it all depends on my username online or my avitar and people will believe unquestionably that that's what my gender is. Its probably because I'm one of those that I'd have to say I fail to see an issue with it, though I can say its annoying as well, since I've had girls online misunderstand completely and get pissed at me and a guy who I was friends with (Like on WoW. I play a female character. I spoke to the guy as a friend because we were friends. I met him when he was level one, and he was up to level 52 at the time this happened. I didn't hit on the guy once, but we did an instance with a female friend of his, possibly one he knew in person. She was extremely quiet around me, and he told me later that she thought I was a girl and there was something going on between me and him since I seemed to be so friendly with him. [How I was considered friendly is beyond me. Outside of the instance stuff, we spoke about a computer upgrade. That's it.] and it got bad enough that I was actually about to get on stickam and show her my webcam to proove my gender.)

Now reguarding the questions at the bottom...

Gender identity... Let people do as they wish. So long as they're happy, its all good. The exception of course being if someone who passes as one gender but is actually the opposite attempts to get with someone of the same sex that is heterosexual. That's not cool at all, and (save for the friend-of-a-friend scenerio) I fail to see how that's humerous or whatever.

I believe I already answered if I'd date an androgynous girl. Given the choice between clothes-style, physical appearance, and mentality, I'd prefer one with the mentality. A girl that feeds into no stereotype and is able to keep things interesting as a result.