Green party candidate Jill Stein

[StandYoGround]

She is a very intellegent woman and very determined, but I've said it a few times already, she is too socialist for my taste. If you read that closely it doesn't allow anyone to fail as long as the goverment has money to give to you. Because that idea has never failed. XD

[Witching Well]

I have a friend that voted for Jill Stein. I was interested in her, but I didn't really take the time to learn more about her before casting my ballot.

[Rosine Denaja]

volley15

Demilitarize U.S. foreign policy to emphasize human rights, international law, multinational diplomatic initiatives and support for democratic movements across the world.

Demilitarizing to emphasize these things is an extremely naive idea considering the violent anti-democracy crackdowns that characterize most potential revolutions.

[Necruse]

Wako Smitty no Yuuku

Necruse

I like alot of that as well.. though wouldn't having too many illegals potentially hurt as well? considering the fact that their monetary system is different then ours?
but idk...
also what quiz

Probably not....I'd have to look into it more but I would imagine most illegal immigrants would be beneficial to the economy. They often work tax free indentured servant wages and make more money for a company than they take out of economy. Plus, they keep goods and services cheap, which would probably affect the economy much more than money removed, although whether that would be a good or bad thing is open to debate. Most often the real victims in illegal immigration are the immigrants themselves, who are exploited to the fullest and basically take the same social position we used to reserve for slaves.

well it would mostly be a sort of give and take... between the potential burden of their healthcare and the damage to the economy

[Wako Smitty no Yuuku]

Necruse

Wako Smitty no Yuuku

Necruse

I like alot of that as well.. though wouldn't having too many illegals potentially hurt as well? considering the fact that their monetary system is different then ours?
but idk...
also what quiz

Probably not....I'd have to look into it more but I would imagine most illegal immigrants would be beneficial to the economy. They often work tax free indentured servant wages and make more money for a company than they take out of economy. Plus, they keep goods and services cheap, which would probably affect the economy much more than money removed, although whether that would be a good or bad thing is open to debate. Most often the real victims in illegal immigration are the immigrants themselves, who are exploited to the fullest and basically take the same social position we used to reserve for slaves.

well it would mostly be a sort of give and take... between the potential burden of their healthcare and the damage to the economy

I REALLY doubt there's a large number of economists who are terrified about the damage illegal immigrants do to the American dollar. And our healthcare isn't exactly comprehensive. Don't worry, the doctors make plenty of money off more patients. I really feel that most of the fear over immigration stems from a protectionist approach to American culture. Like an "Oh my God! They're gonna bring in drugs and disease and non-white babies and make me dial one for English!" sorta thing. Plus, by pointing America's fear at an "other", it turns our attention away from how bad we're screwing over ourselves.

[Necruse]

Wako Smitty no Yuuku

Necruse

Wako Smitty no Yuuku

Necruse

I like alot of that as well.. though wouldn't having too many illegals potentially hurt as well? considering the fact that their monetary system is different then ours?
but idk...
also what quiz

Probably not....I'd have to look into it more but I would imagine most illegal immigrants would be beneficial to the economy. They often work tax free indentured servant wages and make more money for a company than they take out of economy. Plus, they keep goods and services cheap, which would probably affect the economy much more than money removed, although whether that would be a good or bad thing is open to debate. Most often the real victims in illegal immigration are the immigrants themselves, who are exploited to the fullest and basically take the same social position we used to reserve for slaves.

well it would mostly be a sort of give and take... between the potential burden of their healthcare and the damage to the economy

I REALLY doubt there's a large number of economists who are terrified about the damage illegal immigrants do to the American dollar. And our healthcare isn't exactly comprehensive. Don't worry, the doctors make plenty of money off more patients. I really feel that most of the fear over immigration stems from a protectionist approach to American culture. Like an "Oh my God! They're gonna bring in drugs and disease and non-white babies and make me dial one for English!" sorta thing. Plus, by pointing America's fear at an "other", it turns our attention away from how bad we're screwing over ourselves.

American culture should theoretically be a melting pot... but I do agree... if they are taking out more then they are putting in.. then it's obv bad....but yeah. right now I'm rooting for gary Johnson and jill stien

[LDawn]

Yeah...no:

Quote:

-Create a binding international treaty to reduce atmospheric carbon dioxide to levels deemed safe by scientific analysis to reduce global warming.
-Phase out coal power plants to end their unacceptable harm to the climate, health and the economy.
-End mountaintop removal in Appalachia.
-Phase out nuclear power and end nuclear subsidies.

Yeah... with today's technology you cannot do any of those top bullets without nuclear power. It's only behind hydro power in it's power generating efficiency and lack of pollution. People fear it because they don't understand the science and the precautions taken.

[Wako Smitty no Yuuku]

Necruse

Wako Smitty no Yuuku

Necruse

Wako Smitty no Yuuku

Necruse

I like alot of that as well.. though wouldn't having too many illegals potentially hurt as well? considering the fact that their monetary system is different then ours?
but idk...
also what quiz

Probably not....I'd have to look into it more but I would imagine most illegal immigrants would be beneficial to the economy. They often work tax free indentured servant wages and make more money for a company than they take out of economy. Plus, they keep goods and services cheap, which would probably affect the economy much more than money removed, although whether that would be a good or bad thing is open to debate. Most often the real victims in illegal immigration are the immigrants themselves, who are exploited to the fullest and basically take the same social position we used to reserve for slaves.

well it would mostly be a sort of give and take... between the potential burden of their healthcare and the damage to the economy

I REALLY doubt there's a large number of economists who are terrified about the damage illegal immigrants do to the American dollar. And our healthcare isn't exactly comprehensive. Don't worry, the doctors make plenty of money off more patients. I really feel that most of the fear over immigration stems from a protectionist approach to American culture. Like an "Oh my God! They're gonna bring in drugs and disease and non-white babies and make me dial one for English!" sorta thing. Plus, by pointing America's fear at an "other", it turns our attention away from how bad we're screwing over ourselves.

American culture should theoretically be a melting pot... but I do agree... if they are taking out more then they are putting in.. then it's obv bad....but yeah. right now I'm rooting for gary Johnson and jill stien

Actually, the melting pot model is sooooooo outdated its not even funny. "OOOH! Lets take in all these poor unfortunate brown people into the land of freedom and opportunity and teach them how to be white!" Most sociologists now prefer the tossed salad model. Melting pot is a horrible, backwards, cheauvanistic, conquistador philosophy that should have gone out of vogue with eugenics and "separate but equal" schooling. And I doubt if it would really be too bad. They're putting way more in than they get back, but we really did steal this country from the Mexicans and other Native Americans. If they do manage to get a little of it back, more power to them. They deserve more than we could ever give.

[Divine_Malevolence]

I do adore Stein.
But I'm not letting Romney win by advocating her at the moment.

[Necruse]

Wako Smitty no Yuuku

by melting pot I meant that the various cultures would affect each other.... on a side not.... I liked aot of her ideas... but I voted for gray because He seemed to have a good history... a nice plans as well... plus he seemed to have a better chance imo

[silvershadowedwings]

crap, now i find out about her ideas when its too late ;c

[Wako Smitty no Yuuku]

Necruse

Wako Smitty no Yuuku

by melting pot I meant that the various cultures would affect each other.... on a side not.... I liked aot of her ideas... but I voted for gray because He seemed to have a good history... a nice plans as well... plus he seemed to have a better chance imo

That's tossed salad. Melting pot is everybody comes together and homogenizes until everyone's blended together as one great big American culture with very few personal differences.

I dunno....I don't know too much about Gary....he seems a lot better than that asshat Paul that preceded him. But while its nice to see a nice social progressive candidate...more so than most democrats even!...fiscal conservatism is so wrong most of the time its not even funny. Never raise taxes, only cut spending, try to pull the federal government out of most things....these would lead to disasters. For instance he wants to cut healthcare and social security by making em more efficient. You make the social service more efficient and THEN think about cutting it. Besides, most of Social Security goes into funding people in need. Tell you what....if you pull it....then the people who need....don't get...then they're pretty much screwed. Cut defense spending? By all means. Cut defense spending by 43%? You're friggin nuts. Reduce federal involvement? Let me tell you a little something about post-Constitution America. It is very conflictory and grossly inefficient. it's meant to be that way, because the conflict between Fed, state, and local government provides checks and balances. No one gets too powerful, and if someone tries to do something horrible, someone else can step in and say hell no! You give the Fed too much power, you'll get bad decisions that affect every walk of life round the country. But if you give a state government too much power.....well, there go all the civil liberties Gary wants. Who's gonna stop police brutality in New York, eliminating the Special Ed program in Arkansas, or the Bible getting a class in Kansas public schools? Who's gonna bring clean air acts to Texas, protect native rights in South Dakota, or bring gay marriage to Mississippi? I can almost promise you no one. Not for the next 50 years at least.