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What's Happening With The New Zealand Teen Rape Club Case? Not Enough.
First, the good news: things are happening. The police, who have shat the bed or lied at every stage of this investigation, initially denied that one of the Roast Busters was the son of a police officer (incorrect/a lie), claimed that no victims of the Roast Busters were "brave enough" to file a formal complaint about the group (incorrect/a lie, as now it turns out that four girls had complained to police, an epic ******** up the local police commander now calls a "miscommunication" wink , and said that, while they were aware of a Roast Busters facebook page where members of the group actively bragged about their exploits, that they needed to leave the page up for "tactical purposes." Despite the fact that the boys in the club name and shame too-young-to-consent victims on the site — which has existed, off and on, for two years — cops continue to claim they don't have enough evidence to file any formal charges.
Police Minister Anne Tolley, disappointed that she's learned more about the case from the media than from actual police officers, has called for an independent investigation into the conduct/pathetic bumbling of the Auckland police. The Prime Minister has called the efforts of police insufficient.
And onto the people making excuses for the Roast Busters. Earlier this week, two jackass radio hosts in Auckland fielded a call from a girl named Amy who claimed she ran in similar social circles to the Roast Busters, that she had attended parties with them, and that she saw them providing alcohol to girls as young as 13. In response, hosts Willie Jackson and John Tamihere launched into an elaborate defense of the rapists, referring to kids these days as "free and easy," surmising that if just some of the girls consented to sex then the Roast Busters weren't actually rapists, and saying "Girls shouldn't be drinking anyway, should they?" (god, where have I heard that one before?). After people got mad, Jackson and Tamihere offered a truly tepid non-apology today,
We have no problems apologising to Amy for causing offence. Not a problem at all. We thought we were sensitive yesterday, maybe we could have done a better job.
"We've got the utmost respect for Amy for speaking out about her experience, it was an incredibly brave interview.
That's the apology equivalent of a guy apologizing for shitting on your lawn while he is actually shitting on your lawn.
What about the rapists themselves? Ringleaders Joseph Parker (son of the actor who played Dozer on The Matrix) and Beraiah Hales still haven't had charges filed against them, but police say that two of the Roast Busters have been questioned this week (grain of salt: the Auckland police have a demonstrated track record of ineptitude).
And people in the immediate circles of the Teen Rape Club still don't "get" what rape is. The parents of Beraiah Hales spoke with media yesterday, calling their son "arrogant," "incredibly silly," "an idiot," "acting... like being on a reality TV show," and "not nice." But, like, totally not a rapist.
Gang rape of women too drunk and young to consent! Is there anything *SiLLiEr*?!
But does it matter if the police are protecting them when it seems like public backlash is so strong that it would be hard for the boys to live normal, post-Roast lives? Their faces are everywhere, and not in a "look at these cool dudes we all wanna hang out with" kind of way. New Zealand's daily papers have featured stories about the Roast Busters on their front pages for the last two days.
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New Zealand Teen Rape Club Is The Worst Thing You'll Read About Today
For the last two years or so, a group of West Auckland teen boys calling themselves the "Roast Busters" have gotten their jollies picking up sometimes-underage girls, feeding them alcohol, and then, once they're too intoxicated to fend off their advances, gang raping them.
Once the act has been completed, the boys posted videos of their exploits to social media in an attempt to name and shame the girls. The boys are privileged sons of law enforcement and an actor who costarred in The Matrix. The girls are too humiliated by their exposure to come forward. And police say they can't do a damn thing about it. In fact, police knew about the group's active and disgusting Facebook page but say they weren't able to have the thing taken down. [bangs head repeatedly on wall]
The Roast Busters (a play on "Ghostbusters" because rapists have very timely, with-it senses of humor, I guess) have been operating known around Auckland for some time, but became more widely known in recent days, when local 3 News reporters began going after the boys hard. On Sunday, the station explained, in detail, what the boys had been up to, and revealed the identity of a few of the club members. One of them, Joseph Levall Parker, is the son of Anthony Ray Parker, who played Dozer on The Matrix, among other recognizable roles. Another is a cop's son (police officials deny this). And all of them are human garbage.
Just to spare you the depressing rapespiral I descended into while looking into this group, here are some choice quotes from the Roast Busters, taken from their now-defunct Facebook page and videos they'd posted to social media.
17-year-old Beraiah Hales, when asked on a Formspring-esque social media question asking site what was the best way to get a girl into bed, responded "chloroform." Cool joke bro.
One of the group's rapists reminiscing tenderly on the first time he and his friends gang raped an unconscious girl: "My first actual roast for the Roast Busters was bad, it was fun, I felt like the man. I thought this is going to go big, everyone is going to know about the Roast Busters."
When asked to name a saying he uses often, Hales responded, ''Go ahead, Call the cops, They can't un-rape you.''
More Hales: "It's not rape,. I had sex with one girl who is 13 when i was 16.. She wanted it and thats all that matters"
A Roast Buster in an online video: "We take what we do seriously, some of you think this is a joke, it's not. You try and get with the amount of girls we do. This is hard, it's a job, we don't do this s**t for pleasure."
A girl who is friendly with the rapists in the rape club: "They are good guys. They can make really dumb decisions but they are being teenagers."
A group called Roast Busters Appreciation Page: "Appreciating the roast busters, putting bitches in their place since ages ago. Outing the sluts giving them the treatment they deserve. Any sluts keen to get put on the spit or ganged feel free to comment everyone loves a good slut."
Another girl who is friends with the boys: "People know that they are Roast Busters and they go hang out with them and do stuff [... ] but they're not rapists, they're cool dudes."
An ex girlfriend of one of the group members: "Of course it wasn't okay! I know that! But the girls that did it gave them consent and even went back for more! The girls always agreed to it."
In New Zealand, it's illegal for anyone to have sexual contact with a person under the age of 16, no matter how much they indicate that they "want it." It's also illegal for anyone to have sexual contact with a person who is incapacitated by alcohol. So, not to s**t on a beloved Christmas story, but: if your cool dude friends are having "group sex" with an underage girl who is drunk, then yes, Virginia, it is rape.
Fallout for the boys has been swift, but not satisfying for many parents and Aucklanders and normal humans with a sense of decency. Joseph Levall Parker's family says he left the group a year ago, but after his boss found out about what a terrible person his employee was, Parker lost his job. Parker's dad has released a statement through his agent, claiming the group was a "family matter." Another group member posted a MY BAD facebook status, according to the New Zealand Herald.
"I have not been happy with who I have become and if I suffer any consequences from my past actions then I guess I deserve it but I just want people to know I am a good person at heart and I have matured and have taken this as a massive learning experience."
He also apologised to the young girls who had featured on the Facebook page.
"All the girls that have been effected by this whole ridiculousness I apologize and wish the best for you."
The post was put online by @natekelston154 who wrote that he thought the apology was sincere. But he also said "some girls were idiots tho!!"
"But sluts tho!" should be the motto of rape culture. Oopsie, sorry — "formless bad guys doing bad things," if you believe a letter to the editor that was published just yesterday in the University of Wisconsin student newspaper. Rape culture doesn't exist! I keep forgetting because I keep thinking I see it manifest across multiple cultures and economic categories, but it must be my dumb feminism-addled ladybrain.
And, that's a real cute apology, but that doesn't change the fact that members of the group raped girls and then bragged about it. I really could not care less that a rapist learned some life lessons from his short-lived vocation as a sexual predator and ruiner of girls' lives. Seriously. Not a subatomic particle of ******** is given about this guy's personal journey.
Meanwhile, New Zealand police are like *shrug!* we can't do anything about it because we don't have any evidence! None of the girls victimized by the Roast Busters have filed a formal complaint and so, legally, their hands are tied. Detective Inspector Bruce Scott put it this way: "None of the girls have been brave enough to make formal statements to us so we can take that to a prosecution stage."
Meanwhile — and predictably, given the cops epic bed-shitting here — vigilante groups have sprung up, and members of the Roast Busters have been getting death threats.
The Facebook page the police claim they couldn't have taken down because they needed it up for "tactical reasons", by the way, was removed within hours of 3 News' report. Identifiable victims have been contacted and encouraged to make statements, but so far, no one has been charged.
What's Happening With The New Zealand Teen Rape Club Case? Not Enough.
First, the good news: things are happening. The police, who have shat the bed or lied at every stage of this investigation, initially denied that one of the Roast Busters was the son of a police officer (incorrect/a lie), claimed that no victims of the Roast Busters were "brave enough" to file a formal complaint about the group (incorrect/a lie, as now it turns out that four girls had complained to police, an epic ******** up the local police commander now calls a "miscommunication" wink , and said that, while they were aware of a Roast Busters facebook page where members of the group actively bragged about their exploits, that they needed to leave the page up for "tactical purposes." Despite the fact that the boys in the club name and shame too-young-to-consent victims on the site — which has existed, off and on, for two years — cops continue to claim they don't have enough evidence to file any formal charges.
Police Minister Anne Tolley, disappointed that she's learned more about the case from the media than from actual police officers, has called for an independent investigation into the conduct/pathetic bumbling of the Auckland police. The Prime Minister has called the efforts of police insufficient.
And onto the people making excuses for the Roast Busters. Earlier this week, two jackass radio hosts in Auckland fielded a call from a girl named Amy who claimed she ran in similar social circles to the Roast Busters, that she had attended parties with them, and that she saw them providing alcohol to girls as young as 13. In response, hosts Willie Jackson and John Tamihere launched into an elaborate defense of the rapists, referring to kids these days as "free and easy," surmising that if just some of the girls consented to sex then the Roast Busters weren't actually rapists, and saying "Girls shouldn't be drinking anyway, should they?" (god, where have I heard that one before?). After people got mad, Jackson and Tamihere offered a truly tepid non-apology today,
We have no problems apologising to Amy for causing offence. Not a problem at all. We thought we were sensitive yesterday, maybe we could have done a better job.
"We've got the utmost respect for Amy for speaking out about her experience, it was an incredibly brave interview.
That's the apology equivalent of a guy apologizing for shitting on your lawn while he is actually shitting on your lawn.
What about the rapists themselves? Ringleaders Joseph Parker (son of the actor who played Dozer on The Matrix) and Beraiah Hales still haven't had charges filed against them, but police say that two of the Roast Busters have been questioned this week (grain of salt: the Auckland police have a demonstrated track record of ineptitude).
And people in the immediate circles of the Teen Rape Club still don't "get" what rape is. The parents of Beraiah Hales spoke with media yesterday, calling their son "arrogant," "incredibly silly," "an idiot," "acting... like being on a reality TV show," and "not nice." But, like, totally not a rapist.
Gang rape of women too drunk and young to consent! Is there anything *SiLLiEr*?!
But does it matter if the police are protecting them when it seems like public backlash is so strong that it would be hard for the boys to live normal, post-Roast lives? Their faces are everywhere, and not in a "look at these cool dudes we all wanna hang out with" kind of way. New Zealand's daily papers have featured stories about the Roast Busters on their front pages for the last two days.
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New Zealand Teen Rape Club Is The Worst Thing You'll Read About Today
For the last two years or so, a group of West Auckland teen boys calling themselves the "Roast Busters" have gotten their jollies picking up sometimes-underage girls, feeding them alcohol, and then, once they're too intoxicated to fend off their advances, gang raping them.
Once the act has been completed, the boys posted videos of their exploits to social media in an attempt to name and shame the girls. The boys are privileged sons of law enforcement and an actor who costarred in The Matrix. The girls are too humiliated by their exposure to come forward. And police say they can't do a damn thing about it. In fact, police knew about the group's active and disgusting Facebook page but say they weren't able to have the thing taken down. [bangs head repeatedly on wall]
The Roast Busters (a play on "Ghostbusters" because rapists have very timely, with-it senses of humor, I guess) have been operating known around Auckland for some time, but became more widely known in recent days, when local 3 News reporters began going after the boys hard. On Sunday, the station explained, in detail, what the boys had been up to, and revealed the identity of a few of the club members. One of them, Joseph Levall Parker, is the son of Anthony Ray Parker, who played Dozer on The Matrix, among other recognizable roles. Another is a cop's son (police officials deny this). And all of them are human garbage.
Just to spare you the depressing rapespiral I descended into while looking into this group, here are some choice quotes from the Roast Busters, taken from their now-defunct Facebook page and videos they'd posted to social media.
17-year-old Beraiah Hales, when asked on a Formspring-esque social media question asking site what was the best way to get a girl into bed, responded "chloroform." Cool joke bro.
One of the group's rapists reminiscing tenderly on the first time he and his friends gang raped an unconscious girl: "My first actual roast for the Roast Busters was bad, it was fun, I felt like the man. I thought this is going to go big, everyone is going to know about the Roast Busters."
When asked to name a saying he uses often, Hales responded, ''Go ahead, Call the cops, They can't un-rape you.''
More Hales: "It's not rape,. I had sex with one girl who is 13 when i was 16.. She wanted it and thats all that matters"
A Roast Buster in an online video: "We take what we do seriously, some of you think this is a joke, it's not. You try and get with the amount of girls we do. This is hard, it's a job, we don't do this s**t for pleasure."
A girl who is friendly with the rapists in the rape club: "They are good guys. They can make really dumb decisions but they are being teenagers."
A group called Roast Busters Appreciation Page: "Appreciating the roast busters, putting bitches in their place since ages ago. Outing the sluts giving them the treatment they deserve. Any sluts keen to get put on the spit or ganged feel free to comment everyone loves a good slut."
Another girl who is friends with the boys: "People know that they are Roast Busters and they go hang out with them and do stuff [... ] but they're not rapists, they're cool dudes."
An ex girlfriend of one of the group members: "Of course it wasn't okay! I know that! But the girls that did it gave them consent and even went back for more! The girls always agreed to it."
In New Zealand, it's illegal for anyone to have sexual contact with a person under the age of 16, no matter how much they indicate that they "want it." It's also illegal for anyone to have sexual contact with a person who is incapacitated by alcohol. So, not to s**t on a beloved Christmas story, but: if your cool dude friends are having "group sex" with an underage girl who is drunk, then yes, Virginia, it is rape.
Fallout for the boys has been swift, but not satisfying for many parents and Aucklanders and normal humans with a sense of decency. Joseph Levall Parker's family says he left the group a year ago, but after his boss found out about what a terrible person his employee was, Parker lost his job. Parker's dad has released a statement through his agent, claiming the group was a "family matter." Another group member posted a MY BAD facebook status, according to the New Zealand Herald.
"I have not been happy with who I have become and if I suffer any consequences from my past actions then I guess I deserve it but I just want people to know I am a good person at heart and I have matured and have taken this as a massive learning experience."
He also apologised to the young girls who had featured on the Facebook page.
"All the girls that have been effected by this whole ridiculousness I apologize and wish the best for you."
The post was put online by @natekelston154 who wrote that he thought the apology was sincere. But he also said "some girls were idiots tho!!"
"But sluts tho!" should be the motto of rape culture. Oopsie, sorry — "formless bad guys doing bad things," if you believe a letter to the editor that was published just yesterday in the University of Wisconsin student newspaper. Rape culture doesn't exist! I keep forgetting because I keep thinking I see it manifest across multiple cultures and economic categories, but it must be my dumb feminism-addled ladybrain.
And, that's a real cute apology, but that doesn't change the fact that members of the group raped girls and then bragged about it. I really could not care less that a rapist learned some life lessons from his short-lived vocation as a sexual predator and ruiner of girls' lives. Seriously. Not a subatomic particle of ******** is given about this guy's personal journey.
Meanwhile, New Zealand police are like *shrug!* we can't do anything about it because we don't have any evidence! None of the girls victimized by the Roast Busters have filed a formal complaint and so, legally, their hands are tied. Detective Inspector Bruce Scott put it this way: "None of the girls have been brave enough to make formal statements to us so we can take that to a prosecution stage."
Meanwhile — and predictably, given the cops epic bed-shitting here — vigilante groups have sprung up, and members of the Roast Busters have been getting death threats.
The Facebook page the police claim they couldn't have taken down because they needed it up for "tactical reasons", by the way, was removed within hours of 3 News' report. Identifiable victims have been contacted and encouraged to make statements, but so far, no one has been charged.