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This topic seems to bother people. If you are straight and you have a problem with homosexuality chances are you are just insecure with your own sexuality. If you are straight ninety percent of the time a gay person will not hit on you. they put their pants on the same way you do in the morning they are no different than you. Yeah they like the same sex and you dont but what makes that so bad in all reality. Being a homosexual makes you no different than a heterosexual. Also just because your out and showing the world doesn't mean you have to bring your flag with you, the only thing you are doing is feeding into the stereotypes more. Gay and Lesbians have come so far to now be able to get married in two states and have their own television channel. I'm all for gay rights but there comes a point when teenage boys come out and feel that they have to let everyone know before the day is over. You dont see straight people jumping around flaunting their sexuality so why do most gay men. Its stupid and i think you are an embarrassment to the gay community and yes i myself am gay, so obviously I am for gay marriage and i think the heterosexual debate on it is old and played out. "marriage is a sacred bond between a man and a woman" then why is it that every second I turn around someone is telling me that their husband or wife or boyfriend or girlfriend has cheated? yeah, what a bond. It shouldn't be about a man and a woman, if someone loves someone may it be a man loving a man or a woman loving a woman or a man loving a woman they should be able to show it by marriage if that's what they really want.

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I disagree about the first point, I have been hit on by several gay men and I've had to turn them down.

Doesn't mean I hate them though, that's just personal experience.
One would think that with all the different groups in the past who have fought for equal rights (women, minorities, immigrants) that people would be more understanding of gays wishing to be accepted for who they are, as well. Myself, I do not see a problem with it. Sure, some of the lesbians I know, I look at them and think it is a shame that such a pretty girl is off the market for the rest of us guys. But I do not think they should be feared or hated for who they choose to like or not like. I would have to agree that a lot of the people who hate homosexuality are most likely insecure about their own sexuality. I would also say that religion and society have a lot to do with how gays are treated. I applaud all my friends who are openly gay, because I think in this day and age, with the struggle to be accepted, that is all it takes. Someone to openly say what they are without fear.

Although, about your point of straight men and women not falunting it around, I would have to disagree. A gay friend of mine once told me that he wished he could walk down the street holding his boyfriend's hand just like I walked down the street holding my girlfriend's hand. He made the point that every time a boyfriend/girlfriend display any kind of public affection, that could be seen as flaunting their "straightness". Telling someone who is gay that they can not engage in PDA, because it is embarrassing to other gays (overgeneralization, I know, but I am using it only to make a point) is almost like saying that gays should be ashamed of who they are and hide it from the rest of society, even if they are proud to be as they are. Just as there are some VERY openly gay couples, there are some VERY openly non-gay couples. Telling one to cool it down without telling the other is still hypocritical, no?

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You dont see straight people jumping around flaunting their sexuality so why do most gay men.


Sorry I have to disagree with this part of it. I have known plenty of straight people that flaunt their sexuality and their bodies in as flagrant a sexual manner as they can get away with without getting naked in the streets. Good case in point all the tank tops and tube tops that girls wear when they have size 38DD breasts or even larger. Or teenage boys that wear a speedo to the beach so the girls can see how big their shlong is. I know it is not quite the same as what you refer to when you say the teenage gay boy makes sure the world KNOWS he is gay, but it is probably equivalent. Other then that one statement by the way I completely agreed with you.
Then stop being gay... If you dont like the negative attention then stop being gay and society will leave you alone. Like you said, if your going to flaunt it, people will be annoyed at you. Get yourself to a good straight camp and convert yourself. Also the homosexual fight for marriage is a special right they are fighting for, NOT an equal right.
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Then stop being gay... If you dont like the negative attention then stop being gay and society will leave you alone. Like you said, if your going to flaunt it, people will be annoyed at you. Get yourself to a good straight camp and convert yourself. Also the homosexual fight for marriage is a special right they are fighting for, NOT an equal right.


What do the hell do they do at 'straight camp'..? Show you porn until the hard-on is a muscle-memory reaction?
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Then stop being gay... If you dont like the negative attention then stop being gay and society will leave you alone. Like you said, if your going to flaunt it, people will be annoyed at you. Get yourself to a good straight camp and convert yourself. Also the homosexual fight for marriage is a special right they are fighting for, NOT an equal right.


What do the hell do they do at 'straight camp'..? Show you porn until the hard-on is a muscle-memory reaction?


That's just so sick it is laughable. Watch the movie "But I'm A Cheerleader" for a good satire of what one of those camps is like. They are some seriously scary places. Have been since they first came out (I think the 40's but no later then the 50's and they were gone by the end of the 60's) way back whenever. Back then though it was to make sure little girls wanted to grow up to make babies and clean house while her 'man' brought home the bacon. I guess when us gays came out they had to revamp an old ideal and bring it back. Sick bastards.
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One would think that with all the different groups in the past who have fought for equal rights (women, minorities, immigrants) that people would be more understanding of gays wishing to be accepted for who they are, as well. Myself, I do not see a problem with it. Sure, some of the lesbians I know, I look at them and think it is a shame that such a pretty girl is off the market for the rest of us guys. But I do not think they should be feared or hated for who they choose to like or not like. I would have to agree that a lot of the people who hate homosexuality are most likely insecure about their own sexuality. I would also say that religion and society have a lot to do with how gays are treated. I applaud all my friends who are openly gay, because I think in this day and age, with the struggle to be accepted, that is all it takes. Someone to openly say what they are without fear.

Although, about your point of straight men and women not falunting it around, I would have to disagree. A gay friend of mine once told me that he wished he could walk down the street holding his boyfriend's hand just like I walked down the street holding my girlfriend's hand. He made the point that every time a boyfriend/girlfriend display any kind of public affection, that could be seen as flaunting their "straightness". Telling someone who is gay that they can not engage in PDA, because it is embarrassing to other gays (overgeneralization, I know, but I am using it only to make a point) is almost like saying that gays should be ashamed of who they are and hide it from the rest of society, even if they are proud to be as they are. Just as there are some VERY openly gay couples, there are some VERY openly non-gay couples. Telling one to cool it down without telling the other is still hypocritical, no?


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I went to high school in Oregon, I was openly gay all throughout high school and boy it was a trip. My girlfriend and I were sitting in the cafeteria one day, she was reading a book, I had my head on her shoulder and a hand on her leg. Next thing we know, once of the Vice Principles is calling us to her office. We get there and sit down and she gives us this big long lecture about inappropriate public displays of affection and going too far. In my high school, straight couples could practically have sex in the hallways and people would just look away. As long as no one saw a body part, they turned the other cheek, but when my girlfriend and I did something as simple as enjoy a book together, its too far and inappropriate. I walked straight out of her office and called my dad. The next day the school board fired that VP.

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The next day the school board fired that VP.

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The next day the school board fired that VP.

I just love stories with a happy ending!


Isn't it great?

It definitely does warm the heart!
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The next day the school board fired that VP.

I just love stories with a happy ending!


Isn't it great?


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The next day the school board fired that VP.

I just love stories with a happy ending!


Isn't it great?


Verily.

I owe your dad a beer, or you do. He's an epic dad.


I have paid him back for this, believe me. His dad always stood up for him in school, because teachers do take advantage of their position at times. Not every teacher in every school, but some do. Inevitably, my dad "met" each of my principles. For various reasons too, not just because I was out of closet. This incident happened not too long after the first rash of high school shootings, so he got the school locked down xd

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I have a stoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooory!

I went to high school in Oregon, I was openly gay all throughout high school and boy it was a trip. My girlfriend and I were sitting in the cafeteria one day, she was reading a book, I had my head on her shoulder and a hand on her leg. Next thing we know, once of the Vice Principles is calling us to her office. We get there and sit down and she gives us this big long lecture about inappropriate public displays of affection and going too far. In my high school, straight couples could practically have sex in the hallways and people would just look away. As long as no one saw a body part, they turned the other cheek, but when my girlfriend and I did something as simple as enjoy a book together, its too far and inappropriate. I walked straight out of her office and called my dad. The next day the school board fired that VP.


Oh, god, don't I know it!

One incident that comes to mind was when I was still at school - an all-girls' school, and we were generally a very tactile, cuddly, affectionate yeargroup. One morning at registration, the classroom was freeing cold, and so everyone was cuddling up for warmth. Now, two of my friends were dating, and it so happened that I was talking to them secretively - I think we were coordinating surprise birthday presents for a friend in our class, or something along those lines. So the three of us were sitting in a group hug on one side of the classroom, chatting quietly so we weren't overheard (and you know, I was in this hug with them, so there definitely wasn't anything even slightly sexual in it), and the rest of the class, about ten or so girls, were all together in a big pile on the floor on the other side of the room.

Guess which group the teacher snapped at to stop hugging while completely ignoring the other. Just guess.

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