eye liner..or maybe its the mascara? issue-- advice please

[I SO VERY----- I]

Hi everyone. So I'm using a black eyeliner pen and on different days i've tried 3 different black mascaras- (waterproof and non waterproof ones) --- yet by the end of the day, or not even the end--just hours later i have grey smears under my eyes ---

I only apply the eye liner on the top lids, not the bottom-- I apply the mascara on both top and bottom.

I thought the problem was that i wasn't using waterproof mascara at first but now i've tried waterproof and I still have the same problem. Is it the eyeliner? Why is it all coming off and smearing under my eyes? I thought it could be from summer sweat but shouldn't the waterproof stuff be able to stand up to that? My eyes aren't watering and I'm not rubbing them. I've tried 3 different brands of mascara-- unless its the eyeliner?

update: i tried leaving out the mascara completely and using just eyeliner-- even sephora brand eyeliner--and it still gave me panda eyes by the end of the day x.x --even with primer

[The Nekomimi]

Putting mascara on your bottom lashes can do that.

If you wanna find out, put on eyeliner without the mascara. Then put on mascara without the eyeliner. You should see which one it is after that cat_3nodding

[Chantilly Bunny]

Whenever I put mascara on my bottom lashes, it happens.
You can also use primer for mascara and eyeliner to help hold it in place some.

[FallenFlowers1312]

I don't wear much makeup, but I had the same problem for a while. My friend who wanted to get into cosmetics and styling told me it could just be my bodies natural oils making it run, or even summer heat making it runny and smear. Try washing your face with warm soapy water first, then apply your makeup. It might help 3nodding

[tiramiiisu]

You might need to use an eye shadow primer to hold everything in place

[I SO VERY----- I]

okay! thanks guys!--so most of you don't usually wear mascara on your bottom lashes?

[The Nekomimi]

I SO VERY----- I

okay! thanks guys!--so most of you don't usually wear mascara on your bottom lashes?

Nope! emotion_yatta

Everytime I have, by the end of the day I would have panda eyes.

It makes my eyes look smaller, too. emotion_8c

[this rainbow lover]

Make sure you use a powder on your face/eye area before using eyeliner and mascara to provide a matte surface and something to keep the natural eye/face oils out of your eye makeup. It could very well help, because I never have this problem, and I use mascara on my bottom lashes often. But I always powder my face when I use eye makeup.

Good luck~

[Pikkewyn]

Remove all oils from your eyelids and lashes before applying make-up, use an (eyeshadow) primer, and avoid mascara on your bottom lashes.

[g00d-4u]

maybe some makeup setting spray might help??
or just dab some powder under your eyes after applying mascara

[kellyxv]

I SO VERY----- I

okay! thanks guys!--so most of you don't usually wear mascara on your bottom lashes?

Applying mascara can make smudges. I'd just apply a little. Just apply waterproof mascara and eyeliner. Mascara can clump, and eyeliner smudges easily.

[Nebulet]

do your eyes get watery at all?
I use to get that all the time because mascara (most kinds) irritates my eyes, and they would get kinda watery (not even that much, like I wouldn't be crying or anything haha) and theeeeeen it would make everything else smear all over the place lol, like eyeliner and stuff

so I either have to wear waterproof everythiiiiing, or I actually found a kind that doesn't irritate/smears errthang but it's expensive emotion_8c

[vdszbz]

I second the primer idea.

Now that you mention it, the same happens to me when I put mascara on the bottom lashes.

[This is Exodus]

Hi!

When I apply mascara to my bottom lashes I always make sure to wipe excess off in the tube, like swirling the brush on the tube while pulling it out, and then apply lightly.

I use waterproof and never end up with raccoon eyes. And I'm in the pit of a lot of concerts.

Good luck!

[RCJ remixed]

I've never had any problem out of the numerous mascaras. I have had problems with liners, but that is due to the fact my skin gets very oily and makes everything smudge and smear.

Try wearing the liner without any mascara and see if it happens, then wear the mascara but no liner to determine which one it truly is. Also make sure to remove all of it, some residue could be smearing.

A lot of liner, I noticed, smears if placed below the lashes on the water line (especially the top). I would try a sort of primer beneath the liner, it's helped all of my eye make up tremendously.