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Teacher fined for ordering student to strike back at bully

A Brooklyn teacher got so fed up with a notorious 8-year-old class bully that she taught him a lesson in street justice — having him stand in front of the class while his latest bullying victim “hit him back” for all the abuse.

The kid clocked his tormenter — and the bully cried like a baby.

“Well, that’s what you get,” the teacher told the wild child, according to Department of Education documents.

DOE officials sought to can veteran PS 191 teacher Tamu Francis last year following the incident involving the bully.

The aggressor was on top of his victim throwing punches when Francis pulled him off.

After Francis got the two kids off the ground, that’s when she encouraged the victim to “hit him back,” say students at the Brownsville school.

In addition to making the serves-you-right comment, Francis also was heard telling the boy, “When you act like a dog, you get treated like a dog,” according to the arbitrator who presided over her termination hearing.

Francis denied the whole scenario other than the fight itself, saying that she tried to teach the whole class a lesson by asking the bully, “How would you like it if [he] was to hit you back?”

She says the victim misunderstood her point and got in a quick jab to the gut before she could protect the boy — but arbitrator Lisa Brogan did not find her story credible.

It didn’t help that Francis failed to report the incident to her superiors.

“The behavior is extremely disturbing . . . At best, it was a horribly misguided attempt to teach a lesson about bullying,” wrote Brogan. “She exhibited extremely poor judgment and made an enormous blunder by trying to mete out a certain brand of justice for the class bully.”

But because of the third- grade teacher’s 13 years with an unblemished record, she was hit with a $10,000 fine rather than booted last fall.

Brogan said the fact that Principal Elsi Capolongo allowed Francis to keep teaching after the incident — although in a different classroom — shows that she was not worried about a repeat incident.

The sympathetic hearing officer also noted that “by all accounts, [the instigator] was a bully and had behavior issues.”

A message left at a cellphone number listed for Francis wasn’t returned.

DOE officials said she has been a roving substitute since December.

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I have no problems with the bullied kid punching the kid who was bullying him, it taught the bully a lesson not mess with people or you will get it back. It's not like the kid who was bullied brought a gun or knifed the bully at school.

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*Clap clap* I like said teacher. Sure the kids are eight, but best snuff out the bullying bastards now than never. Now he knows what it's like to get punched in the face.
I actually agree with the teacher. Bullies get coddled and keep being bullies. This type of lessen will truly show a bully what it's like to be the one bullied. It fits and it works.

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Where can we go to contact this teacher and donate to help her pay her fine?

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This was actually pretty commonplace in my old school for "problem kids"... (read: delinquents)
One time, the P.E. teacher even locked two kids in the assembly hall to fight it out.

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Where can we go to contact this teacher and donate to help her pay her fine?
I couldn't afford to help pay for her fine, but I wonder if she'd accept a heart-felt "thank you" card? sad

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While I know the teacher will never 'win' this argument in a politically correct environment I think she did both kids a favor. Seeing his bully cry when hit back was probably a huge eye opener for the victim and if bully continues to bully it is likely to lead to a life of crime / prison or at best just generally wondering why he is going through life with no real friends.

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I think we need to go bad and relook at how we discipline brat is schools.

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“The behavior is extremely disturbing . . . At best, it was a horribly misguided attempt to teach a lesson about bullying,” wrote Brogan. “She exhibited extremely poor judgment and made an enormous blunder by trying to mete out a certain brand of justice for the class bully.”


hey maybe it ain't right what she did but I still think Its still better than what the school system does for bullies nowadays.

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The kid clocked his tormenter — and the bully cried like a baby.

“Well, that’s what you get,” the teacher told the wild child, according to Department of Education documents


The bully deserved what he got. I don't think he was hurt at all, just surprised by the retaliation and enraged because the teacher wasn't ignoring his behavior like all the rest do.

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Schools are getting dumber... emotion_facepalm

What this teacher did was good, she's teaching them a lesson. And with how schools handle bullies, I'd say she's the one with the best solution.

Of course I'm forgetting that the school needs to blame the victim and let the bully get away with it all. rolleyes
People need to quit babying these children who are bullying others. Harsh, strict punishments need to happen.
I'm on the teacher's side on this one.

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People need to quit babying these children who are bullying others. Harsh, strict punishments need to happen.


Naw, naw, don't you know? Kids who bring Hello Kitty keychains and make their pastries into gun shapes and make Pew Pew noises at each other with their fingers are the real threat! rolleyes

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