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Are you implying that everyone on Gaia comes here to talk about their favorite video games on the forums? :3
Of course not. It's called "using an example",
"Inappropriate" content (violent / sexual / illegal content) is not allowed on here.
If you see it around, it's either because no mod caught it yet or because someone is actively trying to troll.
And that happens even on forums ONLY aimed for kids. You always have black sheep that break the rules.
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You're well versed in the rule, not the exceptions, which is what planning is required for. You're missing the point entirely. Though, I will say it's strange you were allowed to sleep in the same bed as a 21 year old, as that is the prime example of the exception to the rule. Most parents wouldn't allow that, and I would have called child services, as that's what you're taught to do as a teacher when you hear something like this from a student.
I do not find that strange at all, actually.
But hey, I am from a country where you're allowed to have sex at 14, get drunk at 16 and marry your first cousin. Cultural differences maybe.
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You're right about the ToS. It is against the rules. But, if you take a gander at the Barton OOC, you'll understand by looking through people's search threads what the issue is. Even if they take their role playing offsite, it's still something Gaia can be blamed for, as it was the meeting place for the two individuals. 'Taking it to messenger' is a term to take notice of.
Which also happens on sites only aimed at teenagers. I have been part of pages like that when I was younger. Gaia is a very tame place.
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As for how my post is 'unrelated to yours', let me put it this way. Gaia has advertised plenty of sites intended for adults that are used by younger users.
Could you please name an example of a page advertised on here BY Gaia (not accidental slips in Google placed advertisements) that actually contained pornographic material as main selling point? I am not aware this has happened in the past and I would like to know which sites those were.
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Also, the reason Gaia is 13+ doesn't immediately imply it can't advertise things that are 18+. I've yet to see any of the explicit tentacl advertisements people have mentioned, and having made a few calls around, they don't sound accurate. Of course no one can link these images, as they would be against the ToS if they were real, so here we are - Speculating.
I get the tentacl ads on my forum home page every two or three refreshes.
Of course they are NOT the ones with the mermaid (I have yet to see that one).
They are simply tentacl ads. I can take a screencap for you if you want but I just went to buy something on Amazon so it will take a bit before there will be something besides Amazon gift voucher ads coming up again, I guess.
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Using the argument that Gaia is 13+ so it can't advertise freely is like saying you have no clear reasoning of the COPPA act. That's why Gaia is 13+, by and by. Information tracking is for users 13+. Gaia's personal ToS is the reason you can't post explicit material or adult content ON SITE, which could be changed at any given time if they wanted to do so. (Did you read the ToS, or are you just mentioning it because you think it helps your argument?)
Gaia actually stated that they are NOT a "PG-13 website" but rather "try to keep content PG-13". I don't think I actually called Gaia a "PG-13 website", since they are not. If I used that term, my apologies.
And since I have been on this site snce 2004, I had to actually AGREE to the ToS when I joined.
I am not sure how signing up works today, but I doubt it would be any different.
So I'd say most users (me included, obviously) are aware of the ToS just fine.
Of course Gaia an change their own ToS at any given time, ban all users under 18 and open up a "Porn" subforum.
Of course they ARE ALLOWED to advertise their own baby website on here.
That does not mean I have to agree with that business strategy or find it tasteful.
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Let me just say, and feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, you sound like a teenager. It would make sense based on how adamantly you're advocating for teenage rights. Now, that's why I'll give you some leeway here, and try and spell this out as effectively as possible.
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Sorry to burst your bubble but I left my teenage years behind about 6 years ago.
Of course you can try and sound nicely condescending by "spelling this out" for me. Thank you so much, I really appreciate your effort immensely.
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Teens do need protection on (or from) sites like
Facebook,
YouTube, and
Twitter, as well. That wasn't the argument though, so we'll get back to that.
You completely missed the point.
We were talking about "protecting" teenagers by "transfering" the older people to another website.
So where exactly are Twitter, Facebook and YouTube opening up special 18+ versions of their websites to get rid all those crazy old creepers who are only out to hunt innocent teenagers?
EXACTLY. They do not exist.
Because the protection has to happen ON SITE.
By moderators. Bans. Help Hotlines / customer service.
But not by opening up an "Adult Facebook" and "Adult Youtube" and "Adult Twitter" to lure in everyone over 18 with PORN.
If you seriously think that tentacl will help protect teenagers on Gaia by transfering that dangerous audience (which is already breaking the site's ToS and WILL get banned for simply offering 18+ RPs) to a "grown up" version of the same site, advertised on Gaia with NO restrictions / age checks when joining, then God help you.
That sounds VERY naive to me.
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Gaia won't sink because of tentacl. Gaia will sell because
that's the plan.
emotion_facepalm I said: If everyone over 18 migrated to tentacl, there wouldn't be any cash cows left on here.
You made it sound as if it would be GREAT if all the people with money left Gaia.
It would not be great. Because tentacl is not centered around avatars the same way Gaia is. It will take Gaia YEARS to build a userbase of similar size to this one.
It would only be great if Gaia Interactive closed down Gaia and only concentrated on tentacl to produce income and costs.
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Now, I'm happy to have heard your opinions, but I'd much prefer a few facts to your side of the debate.
Okay, I will
spell out the facts for you again, just to make it a bit easier for you to understand and avoid any further misunderstandings:
- Gaia offers ON SITE protection of teenagers
- Gaia advertises 18+ content (explicit pornographic material) on their main website
- Tentacl does not offer any age checks when joining (unless they updated the process since I joined)
- Linking to explicit pornographic material on the homepage is not PG-13 friendly
- There are people over 18 on Gaia who are NOT sexual predators and can use Gaia all they want without being chased off the site by over-protective crazies who think everyone over 18 is an abusive, sex-obsessed, violent psycopath
And most importantly, a fact you may not be aware of yet:
Teenagers can have normal, informative, educative, interesting conversations with adults (yes, even with MEN over THIRTY)
And now that we have both presented our sides of the argument, I will agree to completely disagree with you and leave it at that.
Please take your condescending manners to someone else. Thank you very much.